Open 839: White flag Holder [Game Over]

[Harley Quinn]

NEW RULES

no more wall posting. 3 lines of text maximum

chat time let's go

Watch Mastina rep into this game. lol

[Harley Quinn]

i legit looked for the password for like 20 minutes

lmfaoooo

[Harley Quinn]

i have a number of questions for you

like what's that thing behind your hat

is it a sword or a guitar?

Is it bad to say that I don’t want this slot to die just to keep my wim going, if for no other reason?

[Harley Quinn]

I'm fairly confiident RH9/NQ are townies but you can't win games without killing people.

But you’re voting for RH9?

[Harley Quinn]

Dwlee I will steal your glasses and never give them back if you keep saying kill pooky

also you broke the three line rule

Pooky’s keeping me sane. That’s got to count for something. I need to laugh more, I’ve been crying way too much recently.

[Harley Quinn]

Norra is over using the word "it feels like" to overexplain a read in which she is manufacturing for those of you at home not paying attention.

what a lie norra is still doing her homework

Norra is doing Noraa’s homework.

[Harley Quinn]

Question, are we trying to eliminate jester or let jester get night killed?

we have no reason to fullfill jester's wincon. eliminating jester only helps scum in my opinion. it wastes our elim and gives scum a "free nightkill"

So do you think we should overall avoid figuring out who the jester is?

This might be an ally. Who this person replace

Is this a dumbtell?

[Harley Quinn]

lol darby = harley quinn. Okay interesting to know.

I won’t vote out Pooky, he threatened to make me sleep with the fishies.

[Harley Quinn]

i got mechguiltied twice and they couldnt kill me

this town doesnt even have cops

[Harley Quinn]

I'm fairly confiident RH9/NQ are townies but you can't win games without killing people.

But you’re voting for RH9?

No. They're voting Voyc now.

For being 'a traitor'. It's a weird reason in my honest opinion.

A what?

[Harley Quinn]

I'm fairly confiident RH9/NQ are townies but you can't win games without killing people.

But you’re voting for RH9?

No. They're voting Voyc now.

For being 'a traitor'. It's a weird reason in my honest opinion.

A what?

Right, they switched from you, to Fire and now to Voyc.

[Harley Quinn]

@mod can we get an updated vc?

[Harley Quinn]

Vote Count 2.05

With 12 votes in play, it takes 7 to eliminate.

RH9 (3): numberQ, Three, Voyc,
Voyc (2): Andante, Firebringer,
Firebringer (1): Milk & Mocha,
Milk & Mocha (1): Dwlee99,
Alyssa The Lamb (1): Harley Quinn,
Enchnat (1): Alyssa The Lamb,
numberQ (0):
Andante (0):
Dwlee99 (0):
Harley Quinn (0):
Three (0):
MegAzumarill (0):

Not Voting

(3): RH9, MegAzumarill, Enchant,

Deadline:

Postponed

Harley Quinn on V/LA

So we’re waiting on yet another replacement? This game is already a meme. lol

[Harley Quinn]

ohey I found the game! We were buddies and everything!
Are you going to bus me again?

But yeah, I mean if M&M wants to talk to me about any suspicion go ahead, tho it really seems to just be sheeping

And Firebringer, why the Harley read?

link/quote?

[Harley Quinn]

aw I thought you didn't remember me!
it's been a long time since, but I do do the @person, questions as either alignment, if that's what you're referring to, it's just how I like to interact w people!

I always get suspected playing as either town or scum so at this point I'm not particularly surprised at the votes

The @person wasn't referring to, meant ur approach to hunting and just general questions and prodding without a direction or purpose. Its more of a "i am doing something" than a "doing something"

also ur pred posts was scummy too.

Also harley read was just based on posts by her pred i have no read on harley here besides shocked i haven't been called bad once yet.

If this is a challenge, I accept.

I v/la’d for damned good reason. I’m emotionally drained. I refuse to put my heart and soul into another game ever.

[Harley Quinn]

If majority of players agrees then i can add a deadline, which will force you to eliminate someone via majority of players votes!

I guess it depends on how much time it takes Andante slot to get replaced.

[Harley Quinn]

@kerset how much time will dl resume at

48h

So they have a replacement then, cool. Probably won’t be as much fun as Andante though. :/

[Harley Quinn]

can we kill someone alrdy

who r we even waiting to get replaced atp

Andante

[Harley Quinn]

lets just kill her instead?

thought she was your spirit animal?

[Harley Quinn]

rh9 is town but it would be extremely funny to kill him

Inconsistency is a town tell

It means I'm thinking about you

By that I mean I'm thinking about how cool it would be to yeet you across the room

Ngl, I’m dying to see what you guys flip. lololol

[Harley Quinn]

You’re trying to kill slots you claim to tr. Very interesting and bizarre play, whatever you are.

[Harley Quinn]

Actually, let's do this.

VOTE: Three

Is this based on them having posted the least recently?

Or do you have some other reason for voting Three?

[Harley Quinn]

Even if rh9 is killed and flips scum, I don't think that's actually useful to the game

How is any slot flipping scum not useful to the game?

[Harley Quinn]

Actually, let's do this.

VOTE: Three

If you read the game you might have a reason to town read me.

Or you could do something town now

Or you could just read his ISO.

[Harley Quinn]

Alyssa do you think the game state is healthy when we have players around who refuse to even glance through the first 80 pages?

You don’t need to read the game but voting a slot without having ISO’d them, definitely isn’t MY idea of “healthy”.

If Three was pretty much a no content slot, I’d understand this better but her only reason for voting him, seems to be his being the least recent to post.

[Harley Quinn]

Does literally anyone townread pooky right now

Honestly don’t know what to make of that slot. Pooky is trying to get people to yeet a slot he claims to tr. I’m really having trouble making sense of that.

[Harley Quinn]

Actually, let's do this.

VOTE: Three

Is this based on them having posted the least recently?

Or do you have some other reason for voting Three?

Alyssa

[Harley Quinn]

Could it just be Rh9 + Alyssa + other?

Seems like the most likely solve and I have some good associative either way with an rh flip. VOTE: Rh9

This post is horrific

I thought that 2255 was even more funnier than anything Enchant or M&M posted.

I would poweryeet “other” personally. lol

[Harley Quinn]

Riddles within riddles

Meg is an Enigma

She really doesn’t sound like an RCE alt.


I kid. lol

[Harley Quinn]

RH9 and Alyssa are both town

What makes you think that?

Alyssa's first 6 posts upon thread entry and RH9's readslist are towntells

What? I didn't make a readslist.

exactly

Spoiler:

hello

I plan on reading approximately nothing of the game before this exact point

you're welcome

are you okay

Vote Count 1.12

With 14 votes in play, it takes 8 to eliminate.


marcistar (8): Three, Harley Quinn, Blood Puppets, Andante, MegAzumarill, Enchant, numberQ, Dwlee99,
Milk & Mocha (2): Toogeloo, Voyc,
Not_Mafia (1): Not_Mafia,
Toogeloo (1): marcistar,
Andante (1): Milk & Mocha,
Dwlee99 (0):
RH9 (0):
numberQ (0):
Harley Quinn (0):
Three (0):
Blood Puppets (0):
Enchnat (0):
Voyc (0):
MegAzumarill (0):

Not Voting

(1): RH9,

Deadline:

(expired on 2021-12-27 13:59:14)

voyc perhaps. three are you thinking the same think that taly is thinking here about toog?

Yeah I am. I was already concerned about it but wanted to see how it'd go.

VOTE: marcistar

On reread, I don’t agree with Pooky that Marci hasn’t done anything but she does sound different here than in OMB where she was pretty much questioning everything. Here, she just seems too certain almost about her takes.

VOTE: Marci

I love shitting on 2 EoD wagons by successfully encouraging a new one

VOTE: Marcistar

~taly

VOTE: marci

sure

VOTE: marci

Feels like scum intentionally jesttelling

VOTE: Marci

KILL DESTROY

VOTE: marcistar

Isn't this the hammer? Meg said E-2 but they had 5 at last VC I'm pretty sure.

I lean more town here but I definitely don't lean jester, so I'm happy to get some flip info at the very least. Still prefer M&M for the record.

VOTE: Marci
Just to make sure we get a hammer

Vote Count 1.10

With 14 votes in play, it takes 8 to eliminate.


Toogeloo (5): marcistar,Blood Puppets, Three, Andante, Milk & Mocha,
Milk & Mocha (3): Toogeloo, numberQ, Dwlee99,
Not_Mafia (1): Not_Mafia,
Dwlee99 (1): Harley Quinn,
RH9 (1): Voyc,
numberQ (0):
Harley Quinn (0):
Three (0):
Andante (0):
marcistar (0):
Blood Puppets (0):
ahhlo (0):
Voyc (0):
MegAzumarill (0):

Not Voting

(2): RH9, MegAzumarill,

Deadline:

(expired on 2021-12-26 15:45:40)

Not_Mafia have been prodded. Their third prod will result in immediate replacement.

Vote Count 1.11

With 14 votes in play, it takes 8 to eliminate.


Milk & Mocha (5): Toogeloo, Enchant, numberQ, Dwlee99, Voyc,
marcistar (4): Three, Harley Quinn, Blood Puppets, Andante,
Not_Mafia (1): Not_Mafia,
Toogeloo (1): marcistar,
Andante (1): Milk & Mocha,
Dwlee99 (0):
RH9 (0):
numberQ (0):
Harley Quinn (0):
Three (0):
Blood Puppets (0):
Enchnat (0):
Voyc (0):
MegAzumarill (0):

Not Voting

(2): RH9, MegAzumarill,

Deadline:

(expired on 2021-12-27 13:59:14)

Vote Count 1.12

With 14 votes in play, it takes 8 to eliminate.


marcistar (8): Three, Harley Quinn, Blood Puppets, Andante, MegAzumarill, Enchant, numberQ, Dwlee99,
Milk & Mocha (2): Toogeloo, Voyc,
Not_Mafia (1): Not_Mafia,
Toogeloo (1): marcistar,
Andante (1): Milk & Mocha,
Dwlee99 (0):
RH9 (0):
numberQ (0):
Harley Quinn (0):
Three (0):
Blood Puppets (0):
Enchnat (0):
Voyc (0):
MegAzumarill (0):

Not Voting

(1): RH9,

Deadline:

(expired on 2021-12-27 13:59:14)

Vote Count 2.01

With 12 votes in play, it takes 7 to eliminate.

RH9 (3): Three, Andante, Milk & Mocha,
Milk & Mocha (1): Dwlee99,
Not_Mafia (0):
Toogeloo (0):
Andante (0):
Dwlee99 (0):
numberQ (0):
Harley Quinn (0):
Three (0):
Enchnat (0):
Voyc (0):
MegAzumarill (0):

Not Voting

(8): RH9, Harley Quinn, MegAzumarill, Enchant, numberQ, Toogeloo, Voyc,Not_Mafia,

Deadline:

(expired on 2022-01-05 19:00:00)

Vote Count 2.03

With 12 votes in play, it takes 7 to eliminate.

RH9 (3): Milk & Mocha, numberQ, Harley Quinn,
numberQ (2): Andante, Firebringer,
Milk & Mocha (1): Dwlee99,
Not_Mafia (1): Three,
Firebringer (0):
Andante (0):
Dwlee99 (0):
Harley Quinn (0):
Three (0):
Enchnat (0):
Voyc (0):
MegAzumarill (0):

Not Voting

(5): RH9, MegAzumarill, Enchant, Voyc, Not_Mafia,

Deadline:

(expired on 2022-01-05 19:00:00)

Harley Quinn on V/LA

Voyc is being replaced

M & M continues with the trolling. lol

[Harley Quinn]

I actually don't think HQ has been normal at all recently

You’re seriously fucking kidding me right? Like whatever you are, I’m absolutely disgusted by this.

[Harley Quinn]

I actually don't think HQ has been normal at all recently

You’re seriously fucking kidding me right? Like whatever you are, I’m absolutely disgusted by this.

To be clear: Alysaa KNOWS why I’m on v/la and she still has the nerve to bring up my mental state. Unfortunately I can’t elaborate more on this but I am really not okay with her doing this to me.

[Harley Quinn]

I plan on reading approximately nothing of the game before this exact point

you're welcome

VOTE: Alyssa

Feel free to miselim me Alyssa.

[Harley Quinn]

Alyssa, I apologize if that sounded harsh but it really isn’t cool of you to bring up my mental state att. I will not be able to interact with you if you continue to reference it.

[Harley Quinn]

@mod, any updates on how long this game will be paused?

It is up to players, how long they want this day to last.

[Harley Quinn]

idk I'm really not taking this game seriously atm

Me too. Even my joke reads show it.

It’s hard to when you have massive replace outs. Anyway, I think Alyssa could be scum but I currently have an emotional block rn, probably affecting that read.

[Harley Quinn]

idk I'm really not taking this game seriously atm

Me too. Even my joke reads show it.

It’s hard to when you have massive replace outs. Anyway, I think Alyssa could be scum but I currently have an emotional block rn, probably affecting that read.

Hope you get better.

Thanks, hopefully it’s just temporary.

[Harley Quinn]

HQ, do you think that 'lifeless' is a hurtful word?

I think that it was mean of me to say it because I might have hurt Alyssa's feelings.

I don’t think so. Only if she literally had rl reasons that directly caused that. Like actual illness or something? I was upset with her using the words “not normal” wrt to me because I wouldn’t have gone on V/LA if I was feeling remotely normal.

[Harley Quinn]

Confusing me to pieces: M&M
Trying to Jester-tell: Enchant
Quiet but seems all right: Voyc
IDK: Alyssa
Complex: Three
Seems to be trying his best: Firebringer
As usual: HQ
Suggests Pooky wagon: Dwlee
Nice: Andante
Don't take serously: RH9

That's also reason why i voting you.

Dice just pointed things.

Because he said wrt himself: “don’t take seriously”?

[Harley Quinn]

Vote Count 2.06

With 12 votes in play, it takes 7 to eliminate.

RH9 (5): numberQ, Three, Voyc, Enchant, MegAzumarill,
Alyssa The Lamb (2): Harley Quinn, Firebringer,
Voyc (1): Andante,
Milk & Mocha (1): Dwlee99,
Three (1): Alyssa The Lamb,
Firebringer (0):
Enchnat (0):
numberQ (0):
Andante (0):
Dwlee99 (0):
Harley Quinn (0):
MegAzumarill (0):

Not Voting

(2): RH9, Milk & Mocha,

Deadline:

Postponed

Harley Quinn is on V/LA and the most active around here.

I want on V/LA because I wasn’t sure I’d be able to post and not be toxic. I’m less worried about that now.

[Harley Quinn]

RH9 this is a private conversation

OK. I'll leave you two alone.

[Harley Quinn]

@mod, any updates on how long this game will be paused?

It is up to players, how long they want this day to last.

If there’s no replacement in site, we can’t drag out the game waiting for that.

[Harley Quinn]

I was upset with her using the words “not normal” wrt to me because I wouldn’t have gone on V/LA if I was feeling remotely normal.

I apologize for this

Alyssa The Lamb is being replaced.

:/

I accept and thankfully I can finally say way I was so tilted at Alyssa. I hope that played no part into that decision though.

[Harley Quinn]

im probably not gonna read this thread unless someone really bullies me into it, but does anyone have any advice on avoiding the jester (or, is there a general consensus on who the jester is)? i dont really wanna get caught playing 3:9 mountainous lol.

VOTE: rh9

oh nvm i just scrolled up the page enchant is 100% jester

You also might want to read Ahlo ISO as well.

[Harley Quinn]

Also Deadline is still frozen

nope, the deadline in count 2.08 is definitely counting down

strongly believe we should just pile on rh9 (sorry rh9, you know what deadlines are like)

It WAS but then Alyssa replaced out, the brings it to a total of six replace out now, two on the same slot. We’re now waiting on a slot to replace Alyssa who I think replaced NM slot.

[Harley Quinn]

Spoiler: My Readslist

Lol @ this list. You have og poster differently slotted with their replacements, plus players not even currently in the game.

Actually forgot about Darby, so that actually makes it seven but at least he had the decency to rep out on d1 and not clog up d2.

[Harley Quinn]

You guys should at least let me explain myself instead of flashvoting me ok?

The moment you stop being funny, we’ll embalm you in a ginormous vat of honey, deal?

[Harley Quinn]

I still like my vote where it is and while I’m not opposed to waiting for the replacement, that slot is still my best current guess to be scum.

[Harley Quinn]

I don't understand the rh9 wagon cause he seems fine to me but whatever I'll vote for a wagon to just go through

I’ll switch if necessary, if I have too. Just not a huge fan of that in general but I know we need a lim.

[Harley Quinn]

to clarify: youre also a hard no on voyc?

I don’t really have much of a read on them but other than not being extremely active, none of their posts particularly pinged me.

[Harley Quinn]

rh9 is town

I am fine with being voted

but you will miss me when I'm gone

[Harley Quinn]

Spoiler:

Four weeks and seven days ago our friends brought forth, on this forum, a new open game, conceived in fun, and dedicated to the proposition that all players are created innocent. Now we are engaged in a great battle, testing whether that game, or any game so conceived, and so dedicated, can long endure. Many have perished in this great fight. We have come to the penultimate day having made zero progress in finding villainy. It is altogether fitting and proper that you should attack us when we have been right about every flip so far this game. But, in a larger sense, you cannot-will not eliminate us for we are the voice of justice in this world. The valiant town, living and dead, who struggled here, have consecrated it far above our poor power to add or detract. The game will little note, nor long remember what we say here, but it can never forget what they did here. It is for us the living, rather, to be dedicated here to the unfinished work which they who fought here have thus far so nobly advanced. It is rather for us to be here dedicated to the great task remaining before us—that from these honored dead we take increased devotion to that cause for which they here gave the last full measure of devotion—that we here highly resolve that these dead shall not have died in vain—that this game, under God, shall have a new birth of freedom, and that game of the town, by the town, for the town, shall not perish from this site.

[Harley Quinn]

VOTE: Milk & Mocha

Probably gonna ISO esther to see if there's a reason she was NKed, though I suspect it was just because she brought an injection of activity into this game and scum wants all non-jester-telling speech stifled.

okay. obviously i cant make anyone go along with this, but my plan for tomorrow is to treat enchant/dwlee/three/voyc/quinn(!) as town and look for scum outside of that group.

These were her most recent reads.

[Harley Quinn]

Consider my vote spiritually on M + M

E-2 BTW

my vote is also spiritually on M + M

My vote is terrestrially on M + M. lol

[Harley Quinn]

my vote is also spiritually on M + M

Can I just say that even now, scum are afraid to vote us. Y'all better look at my game solve from day 1 when we flip town :/

er jester i mean

You guys are constantly sending out contradictory messages, since d1 and are still doing that. I’m not voting yet because the day just literally started not too long ago and it looks like you’re trying to bait a wagon on you.

[Harley Quinn]

so quick to own up to our scum read lolol

I’m trying to get you to make sense. Are you trying to bait me into putting you at e1? I just explained that I don’t see why we need to rush the day.

[Harley Quinn]

except you proved that i made perfect sense.

Then why isn’t it making any sense to me?

[Harley Quinn]

Vote Count 3.01

With 10 votes in play, it takes 6 to eliminate.

Milk & Mocha (4): Dwlee99, Firebringer, numberQ, Three,
Alyssa The Lamb (0):
Three (0):
Voyc (0):
Enchant (0):
Firebringer (0):
numberQ (0):
Dwlee99 (0):
Harley Quinn (0):
MegAzumarill (0):

Not Voting

(6): Voyc, MegAzumarill, Milk & Mocha, Alyssa The Lamb, Harley Quinn, Enchant,

Deadline:

(expired on 2022-01-17 14:55:06)

Harley Quinn is on V/LA

No replacement yet for Alyssa slot. :/.

[Harley Quinn]

I have not been doing well at all. I also know that Fire is also very aware of that fact. I could elaborate on that but it involves oog things but can/will if the mod allows it.

I am not scum and because of oog reasons that have absolutely devastated me, I haven’t really been able to focus on much in or outside of this game.

[Harley Quinn]

@Dwlee, Enchant, Harley Quinn, MegAzumarill, & Voyc: What should I know

We are in MYLO.

Start from voting for no-lim and catch up at night.

VOTE: no elim

[Harley Quinn]

I don't even remember what my reads were like earlier in the game. Should probably look back at that.

@mod it takes 4 to eliminate, not 5 right?

I would assume so.

[Harley Quinn]

looker, have you been able to read anything? it may be helpful to have a fresh perspective

It may be helpful to have your perspective

+1

[Harley Quinn]

I want to hear both, Voyc’s and Looker’s takes on the game and whomever replaces Fire as well ideally. It’s pretty unusual to have no scum flips by d5 and be in elo, so who’s fooling me. NKA is also not helpful in this case and the record breaking number of replacements aren’t helping either.

[Harley Quinn]

What were you referring to?

I honestly haven't checked but IIRC it's voyc, Looker, HQ, and I think one more

I did react to Fire but by the time I even knew the day had started, he had already been force replaced, so I don’t understand how according to you, I even fit into this metric?

[Harley Quinn]

I have not been doing well at all. I also know that Fire is also very aware of that fact. I could elaborate on that but it involves oog things but can/will if the mod allows it.

I am not scum and because of oog reasons that have absolutely devastated me, I haven’t really been able to focus on much in or outside of this game.

@Meg

[Harley Quinn]

Oh and firebringer can be scum

I think I want to vote out Voyc.

I’m down with either but currently leaning Voyc if we don’t find a replacement for Fire but hopefully that will happen sooner than later.

A slot I have no read on yet is Looker but hopefully they will give me a better idea once they post.

[Harley Quinn]

If my theory is true it would clear me FB slot and you
I think that's prolly all town regardless so that's convenient

Your theory is based in some people not posting until Fire was already force replaced? Wut

[Harley Quinn]

I'm not sure I even get the logic behind your theory, Meg. I skimmed the last few pages and unless I missed something, Dwlee is the only living person who even reacted to the reveal at all. Then only Meg and myself reacted to the revelation it was faked. I also don't see how it clears FB slot like you said.

+1

So, based on Meg’s theory, only Dwlee would logically be “clear” from this. Also Meg, why did you ignore 2895?

[Harley Quinn]

The crucial time for this arguement was before the force replace and like I said in my first post bringing this up I have problems with it myself.

Probably best to drop it atp

Yes but you have me currently in your possible solve when I literally wasn’t even here to even be able to react to his fake reveal, so your metric wrt to me anyway, is obviously flawed.

[Harley Quinn]

I reveal myself

Why you fucking did that if we needed no-lim

The idea is :
Enchant being thought of as the IC after this post if unfathomable unless scum had everyone else marked as likely non IC as well, which I could see Dwlee and me marked as such.

The problem is:
Scum may have just taken killing a more widely townread player than a player that is in their IC pool but also is scummy.

Scum may have thought Enchant was actually IC because ??? reasons



The fact you didn't react in the metric is the more incriminating part.

Again, I wasn’t here.

If you’re referring to the IC discussion, then scum may have thought enchant was IC or they may have just thought he wasn’t miselimmable.

I’m reacting to that now, I wasn’t feeling well at the time and I which I also explained that in 2895. Did you also miss that? I went on v/la for good reason.

[Harley Quinn]

I don't think it's useful rn but you sit nicely in poe territory right now anyway.

Voyc, numberQ, Harley I want full readslists today preferably soon.

Nobody vote without intent, we can lose to one misvote

I don’t do full ordered readslists on command and I’m getting somewhat annoyed that you haven’t responded to anything I’ve said.

So how about you maybe address that instead off issuing orders?

I in particular didn’t care for the bolded.

You also didn’t respond to Q, who’s valid point, you just conveniently ignored. How is Fire slot out of your PoE? Hell, why are you “clear” based off of your reactions to Fire?

[Harley Quinn]

Based off tone and relaxed posts (also votes within the game), I feel it's Harley, Voyc and Dwlee (could replace Dwlee with MegaZoom, but I feel more toward Dwlee).

Galron went v/la as scum last game, so I'm kind of suspicious of that as well (I know, it's an insult, but I'm being honest).

Only person to vote Harley was marcistar, who

replaced out and then

died. Harley's the only one to votepark Dwlee. Only person to vote Voyc was Andante, who replaced out and then died, despite Dwlee and Harley saying they want Voyc out. Kinda skimming, so let me know what I've missed or am missing.

When did marci ever vote me? And fyi, I never voteparked or even ever voted Dwlee, that was my predecessor. I just didn’t unvote when I replaced into that slot. Also, for like the gazillionth fucking time now, I’ve been on v/la since I think d2.

When did marci replace out? She never did either one of those things. She never voted me and she never replaced out.

You may possibly be right about the Andante thing but that’s it. She was also replaced. What does either Andante replacing out and or her replacement being the nk have anything to do with either me or Dwlee? And I don’t recall mentioning anything before today about that? iirc, Andante replacement was hard opposed to Voyc and I didn’t express much of a read on her. I did like Datsi but Voyc hasn’t really done much since her taking over that slot.

[Harley Quinn]

VOTE: marcistar
sup bestie

not much, just sad that i rolled scum
wbu?

VOTE: numberq
dont like them already, i could see them being jest/scum. prob more likely scum but ??

VOTE: rh9

VOTE: darby

VOTE: toogeloo

These are all of marci’s votes and she never voted me but my predecessor but only briefly, so I really don’t understand how marci very briefly voting my predecessor means jack?

And she was miselimed so not a replace out.

[Harley Quinn]

Three can also be town for posting after bearbearbearo!! gg I found us 2 town. such an easy game

VOTE: Dwlee

VOTE: blood puppets

VOTE: Toogeloo

cause there's no actual masons... ughhh

VOTE: numberQ

I'll just go here

VOTE: ahhhlo

fine. ahhhhlo lives another day.

VOTE: NumberQ

VOTE: Toogeloo

sure

VOTE: marci

sure

VOTE: RH9
voted no one at day end?

So day 1 went so well, we figure we don't need to talk much for day 2?
what about here?
VOTE: Voyc

VOTE: numberQ

actually, I'm voting Voyc until I have a reason to unvote there
VOTE: Voyc

All of Andante’s votes. I will now look up her replacement.

[Harley Quinn]

im probably not gonna read this thread unless someone really bullies me into it, but does anyone have any advice on avoiding the jester (or, is there a general consensus on who the jester is)? i dont really wanna get caught playing 3:9 mountainous lol.

VOTE: rh9

oh nvm i just scrolled up the page enchant is 100% jester

UNVOTE:
VOTE: milk and mocha

idk just seems the most likely player to shoot blood puppets

im gonna try to be here throughout as much of the deadline period as possible, i'll get back on rh9 if m&m just doesnt have support, but i think m&m's a much better elim. i also agree with blood puppets' observation that mocha couldve been trying to bait an ic counterclaim.

our best-case scenario is scum shooting jester, but i dont really believe that that will actually happen lol. like, is the jester gonna be looking exceptionally townie or making convincing and cogent cases? and the alternative that enchant proposes, where we all jester-tell so scum's shooting a little blind -- we're flatly not going to catch scum if we adopt this strategy (idk, maybe this is a more controversial opinion than i think? i almost never play jester games). i think we're much better off being open in jester reads to avoid mountainous, than we are praying that scum shoot jester.

i dont get why rh9 isnt voting. very strange to recognize deadline urgency to the point where you say youre fine with being eliminated as town, but not cast at least a semi-arbitrary vote for that same reason.

UNVOTE: mocha
VOTE: rh9

i consider these two pretty interchangeable. ive covered why im not interested in eliminating alyssa right this moment.

okay get on rh9 unless you want to elect me thread leader, in which case vote mocha.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: mocha

lmao i cant actually find any clear and obviously-current reads on any living players

whatever, back to mocha

VOTE: mocha

regardless, i think every other non-rh9 player who's posted so far has given explicit support for the rh9 wagon, perhaps consensus is not so hard lmao

UNVOTE:
VOTE: rh9

if three decides mocha isnt jester, very happy to wagon there too, but for now i strongly agree that we should just stump the jester.

mcEster’s votes

[Harley Quinn]

i think harley quinn is town, the advice to read the ahhlo iso was imo nonobvious

voyc feels unlikely to me, it's possible that enchant and numberq are the only objections and everyone else would be on-board, but i dont think so?

to clarify: youre also a hard no on voyc?

enchant, who's town? so far i only really have you and dwlee down. kind of a town on voyc too, i think #2554 is town survivalism.

okay. obviously i cant make anyone go along with this, but my plan for tomorrow is to treat enchant/dwlee/three/voyc/quinn(!) as town and look for scum outside of that group.

This was mc Ester’s final reads list. So not really a fan of Looker’s catch up since none of their reasons for sr me or takes on what happened in the game and subsequent interpretations of that aren’t making a whole lot of sense to me.

I don’t know if it’s incorrect or selective reading or cherry picking which I still don’t know what to make of it but I didn’t tr Alyssa and I don’t like Looker’s catch up.

I think I would vote Voyc, Fire slot or Looker today, possibly Meg but haven’t made up my mind up yet which and I intend to take my sweet time deciding on that.

So I guess that’s my list then Meg, I’m liking Dwlee and Q’s posts the best today. I’ve been tr Meg allgame but her recent posts are making me question that, so that’s currently where I am.

[Harley Quinn]

Catching up, I’m once again reacessing my reads. I’m starting to rethink my Fire sr, since Math doesn’t feel scummy to me, which makes me now feel a bit better about Meg and has me once again doubting everything. It’s extremely important we get it right and don’t miselim.

It’s very concerning to me that Math is the only one who has bothered to read my posts. Looker has misrepped my play and Dwlee is not reacessing for some reason. I honestly don’t understand why everyone but me is tr that slot. I just have to hope I’m wrong and everyone else is right on them but I don’t think so.

[Harley Quinn]

Catching up, I’m once again reacessing my reads. I’m starting to rethink my Fire sr, since Math doesn’t feel scummy to me, which makes me now feel a bit better about Meg and has me once again doubting everything. It’s extremely important we get it right and don’t miselim.

It’s very concerning to me that Math is the only one who has bothered to read my posts. Looker has misrepped my play and Dwlee is not reacessing for some reason. I honestly don’t understand why everyone but me is tr that slot. I just have to hope I’m wrong and everyone else is right on them but I don’t think so.

Where’s your fake vote at?

And please excuse my paranoia but why does me being town make you feel better about Meg?

I would probably fake vote Looker or Voyc. Oh because she defended Fire but I guess I shouldn’t read too much into that. I thought he was scum.

[Harley Quinn]

Why are you so focused on defense rather than offense?
If my theory is wrong everyone will laugh and go “ha ha it’s math”

Why not push Voyc or whoever you scumread? If you are town then I’d follow.

Cause I don't have an amazing case on voyc. I'm evaluating still

You can be town and wrong so yea I'm gonna defend

Well it makes me feel a bit better that you’re not blindly sheeping dead jester who wasn’t even confident on their reads.

[Harley Quinn]

I never voteparked or even ever voted Dwlee, that was my predecessor.

Spoiler: You're right - I can't find it in your ISO, but votecount says it's you (I don't like that)

Harley Quinn replaces DArby

Vote Count 1.04

With 14 votes in play, it takes 8 to eliminate.


RH9 (4): MegAzumarill, Blood Puppets, datsi, numberQ,
Milk & Mocha (3): Toogeloo, Three, Dwlee99,
Not_Mafia (2): Not_Mafia, ahhlo,
Dwlee99 (1): Harley Quinn,
Three (1): Milk & Mocha,
Toogeloo (1): Andante,
Harley Quinn (1): marcistar,
Andante (0):
numberQ (0):
marcistar (0):
Blood Puppets (0):
ahhlo (0):
datsi (0):
MegAzumarill (0):

Not Voting

(1): RH9,

Deadline:

(expired on 2021-12-24 15:00:00).

I guess this also explains the marcistar vote - they voted for darby

VOTE: darby

I guess it's 50/50 whether there's automatic replacement unvote

When did marci replace out? She never did either one of those things.

That's why I crossed out the replacement part because I was confusing marci with Andante.

What does either Andante replacing out and or her replacement being the nk have anything to do with either me or Dwlee?

Only person to vote Voyc was Andante, who replaced out and then died, despite Dwlee and Harley saying they want Voyc out.

I think I want to vote out Voyc.

I’m down with either but currently leaning Voyc

These are later in the game than I initially interpreted. I initially interpreted these as you having wanted Voyc out before today.

So I guess that’s my list then Meg, I’m liking Dwlee and Q’s posts the best today. I’ve been tr Meg allgame but her recent posts are making me question that, so that’s currently where I am.

Your points are valid, but I still want Dwlee because you guys haven't eliminated scum all game (so a change in game leadership is required), and Dwlee not replacing makes me think they're scum enjoying a hard-earned victory (especially with the "I'm too incompetent to be NK'd" and "I'm doing absolutely nothing to solve").

Based off tone and relaxed posts (also votes within the game), I feel it's Harley, Voyc and Dwlee (could replace Dwlee with MegaZoom, but I feel more toward Dwlee). Galron went v/la as scum last game, so I'm kind of suspicious of that as well (I know, it's an insult, but I'm being honest). Only person to vote Harley was marcistar, who

replaced out and then

died. Harley's the only one to votepark Dwlee. Only person to vote Voyc was Andante, who replaced out and then died, despite Dwlee and Harley saying they want Voyc out. Kinda skimming, so let me know what I've missed or am missing.

Can confirm Galron also went V/LA in a game I was scum with them in but it was for valid reasons. Not sure how that matters as I don’t see Galron in the active player list or replacement list?

I don't trust players who go V/LA but then post when it's strategically convenient for them. They shield behind "O I was busy - V/LA" when you need them for something, but then pop in to defend themselves. It just seems they get to shirk responsibility and I've seen it exploited before.

---

Glad that Mathblade replaced in; I like their posts.

I don’t understand why you’re even mentioning Galron. Maybe I should reconsider my Dwlee read Idk. Math replace in clearly changed my PoE.

[Harley Quinn]

I'm also confused regarding the advantage of no-elimming yesterday, but I'm assuming that's because town collectively distrusted their ability to find scum? The only PR I see is IC and I don't see how that role is benefited by a no-elim (as opposed to a Cop/roleblocker, etc).

Because it was melo.

[Harley Quinn]

Whoops I meant @HarleyQuinn on the question I was reading Looker’s posts and said the wrong name

Are you saying my fake vote should be on Dwlee or Q?

[Harley Quinn]

Why are you so focused on defense rather than offense?
If my theory is wrong everyone will laugh and go “ha ha it’s math”

Why not push Voyc or whoever you scumread? If you are town then I’d follow.

Cause I don't have an amazing case on voyc. I'm evaluating still

You can be town and wrong so yea I'm gonna defend

Why are you so focused on defense rather than offense?
If my theory is wrong everyone will laugh and go “ha ha it’s math”

Why not push Voyc or whoever you scumread? If you are town then I’d follow.

Cause I don't have an amazing case on voyc. I'm evaluating still

You can be town and wrong so yea I'm gonna defend

Then what are you doing to solve the game?

Absolutely nothing

Damn the contradiction is strong with this enby.

@Looker why are you ignoring the Jester wagon after saying you liked my posts? The reason I say this is because your fake vote is off wagon.

Math I meant I changed my read on your slot because I liked your posts.

[Harley Quinn]

I think I'll live into tomorrow just cause pooky wants to fuck with me

@Meg:
No scum dead.
Tunneling the jester
Making excuses why not shot when it’s a vanilla game
Choosing to sheep the jester over town when there’s no PRs.

I would expect at least one scum on the jester so Imho elimming outside of Dwlee/Numbers/me is a bad elim. (I am town but technically should be in that PoE from an undecided perspective)

Like Dwlee knows the point I am making when I said it earlier and then tries to then suggest my own point is bad yet they take the time to suggest why they aren’t shot?

Like that’s hella bad and they know it.

I don't think we should lim M&M anymore, not yet anyway

Like it’s even more sus they don’t want to elim NumberQ.

They want credit for the elim on Milk but yet don’t sus those who distanced. It’s weird.

I see your argument, so I’m going to re-ISO both Dwlee and Q. I do agree with you that it’s extremely likely that at least one scum was on jester.

[Harley Quinn]

Woke up 10 minutes ago after being sick yesterday, so I glazed over the 2-3 pages I had to catch up on. There were a lot of statistics and theories thrown out by Math and Dwlee and that is not the kind of content just-woke-up/sick brain should be analyzing.

MathBlade deflecting Dwlee's argument that FB could be scum feels a lot like the way he protected his scum buddies in Squid Game. Why can't troll!FB also be scum!FB? imo it's a mistake to flat out refuse the possibility.

Wasn’t he distancing his buddies in that game? Or was it just SS?

[Harley Quinn]

Well at any rate, comparing your FB read to how you treated buddies doesn’t really make a lot of sense considering FB is the same slot. Because there have been zero scumflips, we have no associatives.

I think this game is stalled until Voyc actually does something, because it’s elo and they’re holding up the game. Wrt FB, I initially thought he was trying to drive a miselim on me but on reread, it looked like he was trying to see who would jump on me since he unvoted.

[Harley Quinn]

*pokes voyc harder*

reminder you need to reveal if you are IC

If Voyc is the IC, that would actually explain a lot.

[Harley Quinn]

Vote Count 5.02

With 7 votes in play, it takes 4 to eliminate.

Looker (0):
Voyc (0):
Mathblade (0):
numberQ (0):
Dwlee99 (0):
Harley Quinn (0):
MegAzumarill (0):

Not Voting

(7): Voyc, Looker, Mathblade, Dwlee99, MegAzumarill, Harley Quinn, numberQ,

Deadline:

(expired on 2022-01-26 16:00:00)

Spoiler: Replacement guide

Not_Mafia->Alyssa The Lamb->Looker
Andante->mc esther
kunchi->ahhlo->Enchant
datsi->Voyc
DArby->Harley Quinn
Toogeloo->Firebringer->Mathblade

voyc have been prodded

Will Voyc be #10 on the replacement list? If they’re the IC and get replaced, we had better get an extension.

[Harley Quinn]

@mod, if Voyc is replaced, would we get an extension?

If they need it

[Harley Quinn]

Would it help at all, to list one player you wouldn’t fake vote for, who you think is least likely to scum? Since Voyc isn’t posting, I’m leaving her out of this. Baring an IC reveal, I think Math is the most likely to be town here, so
least likely to vote there.

[Harley Quinn]

Why do you think Dwlee is +scum with the Math interaction? I keep going back and forth on who I think looks worse out of those 2, and currently it's Math because I'm just not vibing with any of his logic.

What logic are you not vibing with?

Is it that the jester wagon has at least one scum on it? Then by PoE if you’re town you think one of Dwlee or I are scum. Based on the dichotomy you asked about that seems like you vibe with my logic and is a contradiction.

Fake vote Unvote

You both make it hard to decide between you.

This post looks pretty townie.

[Harley Quinn]

Why do you think Dwlee is +scum with the Math interaction? I keep going back and forth on who I think looks worse out of those 2, and currently it's Math because I'm just not vibing with any of his logic.

What logic are you not vibing with?

Is it that the jester wagon has at least one scum on it? Then by PoE if you’re town you think one of Dwlee or I are scum. Based on the dichotomy you asked about that seems like you vibe with my logic and is a contradiction.

Fake vote Unvote

You both make it hard to decide between you.

It's logic exactly like this I don't vibe with. Me thinking one of you looks worse than the other coming out of an interaction does NOT directly imply that I agree with your PoE. I think the jester wagon analysis is of minimal use because scum didn't know who was jester either.

And I'm still getting a bad smell from the meta argument you used to shade me.

Why do you think Dwlee is +scum with the Math interaction? I keep going back and forth on who I think looks worse out of those 2, and currently it's Math because I'm just not vibing with any of his logic.

What logic are you not vibing with?

Is it that the jester wagon has at least one scum on it? Then by PoE if you’re town you think one of Dwlee or I are scum. Based on the dichotomy you asked about that seems like you vibe with my logic and is a contradiction.

Fake vote Unvote

You both make it hard to decide between you.

This post looks pretty townie.

How is the quoted post townie? It's more dodgy logic, then he fake unvotes which is, uh, fake.

Because he doesn’t look tunelled I guess. I actually don’t understand the point of unvoting a fake vote, since it doesn’t even get counted but I don’t understand why you’re convinced it’s fake?

So, is there one player you would be least likely to vote for currently?

We have one player mia and no one can really agree on much, so I was hoping maybe we could get consensus on one player who we wouldn’t vote for, because rn the game is stalled.

[Harley Quinn]

Vote Count 5.02

With 7 votes in play, it takes 4 to eliminate.

Looker (0):
Voyc (0):
Mathblade (0):
numberQ (0):
Dwlee99 (0):
Harley Quinn (0):
MegAzumarill (0):

Not Voting

(7): Voyc, Looker, Mathblade, Dwlee99, MegAzumarill, Harley Quinn, numberQ,

Deadline:

(expired on 2022-01-26 16:00:00)

Spoiler: Replacement guide

Not_Mafia->Alyssa The Lamb->Looker
Andante->mc esther
kunchi->ahhlo->Enchant
datsi->Voyc
DArby->Harley Quinn
Toogeloo->Firebringer->Mathblade

Voyc is being replaced

Hopefully, this won’t take two whole days because we need that slot to post before we decide on a vote.

[Harley Quinn]

This was probably my best scumgame I won’t be getting official credit for. :/