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Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2021 3:47 pm
by RH9
In post 191, numberQ wrote:Why does one question about mech strategy make Andante worth voting?
Well. I guess that you're right and I overeacted. UNVOTE: Andante

Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2021 4:06 pm
by Three
In post 198, MegAzumarill wrote:
In post 197, datsi wrote:
In post 190, Three wrote:What's the vibe you're getting here?
Outrage at dwlee’s PoE
Why the outrage?
In post 199, datsi wrote:I know quite well that getting suspected for doing nothing is frustrating
Good point. Do you think it's scum frustration then? In this context, it looks more like town frustration to me, mainly because I think town is more likely to be publically outraged by an early PoE list than scum would. I have doubts scum would take something like that seriously though.

Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2021 5:38 pm
by ahhlo
are you guys talking about me? im not frustrated i just think that he acted really confident about his list when he had no good reason to... i think it shows that all of hsi feelings about the list are false

Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2021 5:45 pm
by Dwlee99
Why don't you talk to me then

Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2021 5:46 pm
by Dwlee99
Pick someone outside of my list

Why don't you townread them?

Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2021 6:16 pm
by ahhlo
In post 204, Dwlee99 wrote:Pick someone outside of my list

Why don't you townread them?
?
you put Kunchri on your list... yes Kunchri who had never said a word in the entire game

explain that

Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2021 6:20 pm
by Dwlee99
Do you know what process of elimination is?

Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2021 6:28 pm
by Three
In post 202, ahhlo wrote:are you guys talking about me? im not frustrated i just think that he acted really confident about his list when he had no good reason to... i think it shows that all of hsi feelings about the list are false
Hey, Dwlee already brought this up earlier, but please make sure to use the correct pronouns when referring to them, as well as everyone else here.

To address your post though, what makes you think confidence = scummy? Even if their feelings about their reads list was false, why would that be scummy?

Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2021 6:42 pm
by ahhlo
In post 206, Dwlee99 wrote:Do you know what process of elimination is?
how did you use process of elimination to name 6 people to a 2-3 man scum team (i forget exactly how many are in the setup right now)

Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2021 6:43 pm
by ahhlo
In post 207, Three wrote:
In post 202, ahhlo wrote:are you guys talking about me? im not frustrated i just think that he acted really confident about his list when he had no good reason to... i think it shows that all of hsi feelings about the list are false
Hey, Dwlee already brought this up earlier, but please make sure to use the correct pronouns when referring to them, as well as everyone else here.

To address your post though, what makes you think confidence = scummy? Even if their feelings about their reads list was false, why would that be scummy?

towns would have true feelings about who they think is mafia and they would share them

they would not make up fake feelings and post a fake list

that is what the mafia do to try to confuse us

Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2021 6:48 pm
by Dwlee99
In post 208, ahhlo wrote:
In post 206, Dwlee99 wrote:Do you know what process of elimination is?
how did you use process of elimination to name 6 people to a 2-3 man scum team (i forget exactly how many are in the setup right now)
By townreading 6 people and being one person. I think I had 7 people in my Poe not 6

Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2021 7:03 pm
by RH9
In post 209, ahhlo wrote:
In post 207, Three wrote:
In post 202, ahhlo wrote:are you guys talking about me? im not frustrated i just think that he acted really confident about his list when he had no good reason to... i think it shows that all of hsi feelings about the list are false
Hey, Dwlee already brought this up earlier, but please make sure to use the correct pronouns when referring to them, as well as everyone else here.

To address your post though, what makes you think confidence = scummy? Even if their feelings about their reads list was false, why would that be scummy?

towns would have true feelings about who they think is mafia and they would share them

they would not make up fake feelings and post a fake list

that is what the mafia do to try to confuse us
You forgot about the Jester. Why wouldn't the Jester want to confuse us? Don't they want to do that to get themselves eliminated?

Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2021 7:08 pm
by RH9
In post 211, RH9 wrote:
In post 209, ahhlo wrote:
In post 207, Three wrote:
In post 202, ahhlo wrote:are you guys talking about me? im not frustrated i just think that he acted really confident about his list when he had no good reason to... i think it shows that all of hsi feelings about the list are false
Hey, Dwlee already brought this up earlier, but please make sure to use the correct pronouns when referring to them, as well as everyone else here.

To address your post though, what makes you think confidence = scummy? Even if their feelings about their reads list was false, why would that be scummy?

towns would have true feelings about who they think is mafia and they would share them

they would not make up fake feelings and post a fake list

that is what the mafia do to try to confuse us
You forgot about the Jester. Why wouldn't the Jester want to confuse us? Don't they want to do that to get themselves eliminated?
And why wouldn't Mafia share their 'true' feelings? Sure, it's White Flag but it doesn't mean that Mafia will share 'fake' feelings. And what do you define as 'fake'? If you think that Dwlee faked that list of names, have you thought that they were genuinely thinking it and were sharing their 'true' feelings? What if Dwlee was confident in their POE and it was their 'true' feelings?

Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2021 8:25 pm
by Three
In post 209, ahhlo wrote:
In post 207, Three wrote:
In post 202, ahhlo wrote:are you guys talking about me? im not frustrated i just think that he acted really confident about his list when he had no good reason to... i think it shows that all of hsi feelings about the list are false
Hey, Dwlee already brought this up earlier, but please make sure to use the correct pronouns when referring to them, as well as everyone else here.

To address your post though, what makes you think confidence = scummy? Even if their feelings about their reads list was false, why would that be scummy?

towns would have true feelings about who they think is mafia and they would share them

they would not make up fake feelings and post a fake list

that is what the mafia do to try to confuse us
If the game was as easy to solve as you're making it out to be, we wouldn't be having this conversation. :?

Dwlee has already explained the PoE through town reads, so I don't have much to explain there. But I will say that town has the capacity to lie, and sometimes it's in town's best interests to lie. They may want to obscure a PR, or maybe they'll fake an interaction or read to test for reactions from others. Town can even try to reverse pocket somebody they suspect to be scum but can't feasibly eliminate yet in order to protect themself.

Point being that "true" and "fake" feelings aren't always alignment indicative. Context and intentions are much more important for determining that.

Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2021 8:35 pm
by Toogeloo
What's this PoE? How accurate is it?

Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2021 8:46 pm
by RH9
In post 214, Toogeloo wrote:What's this PoE? How accurate is it?
It's and you can decide its accuracy through reading it.

Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2021 2:22 am
by Dwlee99
RH9 would you say IIoA is a playstyle thing for you

Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2021 5:51 am
by Blood Puppets
In post 193, marcistar wrote:VOTE: rh9

Why press this button?

Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2021 5:52 am
by Blood Puppets
RH9 what do you think of marci voting you?

Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2021 6:04 am
by Blood Puppets
Where did Milk & Mocha go goddammit????????

~G

Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2021 6:06 am
by Blood Puppets
In post 202, ahhlo wrote:are you guys talking about me? im not frustrated i just think that he acted really confident about his list when he had no good reason to... i think it shows that all of hsi feelings about the list are false
Who you talkin about Willis????????

~G

Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2021 6:30 am
by Blood Puppets
In post 151, numberQ wrote:
In post 147, MegAzumarill wrote:The real question is if we should out jester reads or not.
I'm of the opinion to keep jester reads to ourselves because they upside of scum killing jester outweighs the downside of an elimination making the game require +1 scum dead.

But we don't want to eliminate jester so if you heavily jester read the biggest candidate for an elimination then and only then is the time to speak up
I think I agree with this. Though I'm running it through in my head and I feel like it's unlikely scum will NK jester in any scenario. Like, why would the jester be playing in such a way to attract the kill? They'll be angling to get vote limmed, since I'm prettttty sure a NK doesn't give them the win. Considering the setup specifically uses the "elimination" language in the jester's win con. And unless the jester plays spectacularly badly in that regard, I don't see scum targeting them over someone who's pro-town or lurky. Maybe I'm just not seeing it though.
Are you jester, Q???????

~G

Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2021 7:31 am
by Toogeloo
In post 219, Blood Puppets wrote:Where did Milk & Mocha go goddammit????????

~G
I know, right!!!!!!!!

Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2021 7:32 am
by PookyTheMagicalBear
wait im right here i just dont know what my hydra password is

Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2021 7:34 am
by Toogeloo
You need to write that down on a post-it.