CONTROL - GAME OVER!

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also on further consideration helens questline has somethin to do with the hras so friendly neighbor is a better fit than i thought LOL

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sorta...uhhh. SORT OF possession prevention devices? slash noise generators? divine geometry???? it is hard to explain to u if u havent played the game

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they are basically a p solid indicator that like, if u are wearing one u are urself and not animated by hostile alien forces

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fuck do i need to come up w spicy shit too??? cuz if i aint playing spicy enough for u already i dont think u are gonna get anything u want and its gonna end in a 1v1 duel at 50 paces

n i lost my goddamn single action revolver somewhere so im gonna have to throw a cactus at u or something instead and thats a lot of work

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ehhhhhhh @tet i dont like val but andante goes first. pls recall i said there were 3 options: ircher andante or whoever decides they can step to us

so im sorry to inform u that val is off the table for the moment



tho if u want reasons why allow me to suggst that u pls compare iso-- andante + dwlee starts badnull, gets to town, tanks nyooooooom down thru the floor 2 scumland

val is just solid scum thru n thru yeah but! V IMPORTANT t3 was THE SCUMMIEST EVER, everyone was like ??? ok thats just ur meta t3 gj. then val replacein. val slot aint as scummy as andante at the worst, theres less iso material, scummy predecessor had multi ppl trying 2 meta clear it, im not so sure on it goin redflip AND im thinking andantes a sure deal redslot

and im top shit until such time as i wreck some poor townie so andantes it for today

thank u for ur cooperation

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like my thinkin is if ur scum and ur plays as scummy as t3+val u would be trying to modulate behavior u know and i do not see that happening there LOL

andante def modulating behavior

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i do not agree w dunn scum yet. pls try again in the back half of d2. still too much skew in data from arcade hydra which dunn says had activity issues from other side of it.

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re-isod a couple folks n tet can be town

tbh both tet n std can seance to puppeteer my stinky carcass if i should eat a nk

i do not trust any of the rest of u to do what i need u to do if i die

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mala this is just fuckin town from u

gj save ur slot in 3 posts n 25 words magnificent

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tbh cephrir u are not reading what i am typing here

i keep saying! its ircher, andante, or the first doofus who thinks to defy my will. and it aint ircher, so....

will u be that doofus or will u get in line and hold ur fanciful ideas of ur immediate future for d2

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mala this is just fuckin town from u

gj save ur slot in 3 posts n 25 words magnificent

U can tell me post game.

Mainly because I’m confused but then again I just woke up

So idk what I did lmao other than maybe agree with you via irchers claim

its total gut feel

like im mindin my own business wonderin how tape works n u just suddenly show up and yell "OH HI BTW IM FUCKIN TOWN" out of the blue like ok damn i guess ur town

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ehhhhhhh @tet i dont like val but andante goes first. pls recall i said there were 3 options: ircher andante or whoever decides they can step to us

so im sorry to inform u that val is off the table for the moment



tho if u want reasons why allow me to suggst that u pls compare iso-- andante + dwlee starts badnull, gets to town, tanks nyooooooom down thru the floor 2 scumland

val is just solid scum thru n thru yeah but! V IMPORTANT t3 was THE SCUMMIEST EVER, everyone was like ??? ok thats just ur meta t3 gj. then val replacein. val slot aint as scummy as andante at the worst, theres less iso material, scummy predecessor had multi ppl trying 2 meta clear it, im not so sure on it goin redflip AND im thinking andantes a sure deal redslot

and im top shit until such time as i wreck some poor townie so andantes it for today

thank u for ur cooperation

i literally explained why andante is better pick than val tbh but ok LOL everybody just go lalala dont see it it cant hurt me im sorry 2 tell u it is real tho

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quote is btw me explaining, since yall seem to think i didnt say it for ???? some reason

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nrowegian u did not read. i said i dont think its 100% val flips red, i DO think its 100% andante flips redthis is why i have a preference omg

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u also are not pushing ur preferences beyond sayin "have u considered x wagon" and then immediately fuckin off for hours so ??? what do u expect. if towns gonna play apathetic n lifeless im gonna take control (start ashtray maze soundtrack now) so we can actually get an elimination for d1 lol

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like if u all do not like what i am offering have u considered like actually trying even half as hard as i am to push for what u want.

(sidebar im sayin this in part to apologize to norwegian who is like LITERALLY the only person i cannot criticize like this actually FUCKIN LOL)

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i was then i was like wait there was actually someone else who was pushn earlier who was that. OH IT WAS. LITERALLY THE PERSON I WAS JUST TALKING 2. LOL

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andantes iso is a case against andante

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pls find town play past let me count here. the 25th post in that iso

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votehopping happens from town imo that can be nai

off wagon pushing tho... we hate 2 see it


PEDIT: norwegian this feels like u have scraped up Everything alignment indicative in the iso tho

my thing is like. andante got a big iso. val dont. andante got a lot f AI posts in that iso. val dont. andante is modulating playstyle. val is p stubbornly stickin 2 scumshit play

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one of these feels more like it could come from townie flounderin than the other u know

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likethis is the thing norwegian its like. trying too hard u know? andante looks like "pls perform for me the activitiy of some1 in ur position being scumread who is also not scum". it is like transparently fake and artificial???? theres this super big gap btwn play and "being urself" here, like theyre airgapped into separate rooms??? like here is my gameplay brain post and here is my town-play-acting post i wrote them seperately and now i will paste them together sorta shit.

val is just 1 note

1 note feels more townie than this fragmented-behavior shit from andantes slot

like i do not think floundering town looks like andante ever... i think it might look like val... so andantes a better fit for the lim u know

btw god i hate that u make me post like fuckin curse here 2 explain this to u properly like omg i like easy short words but u forcing me to justify my shit w like. language. hate it here

PEDIT omg i wanna go get fuckin groceries already LISTEN off wagon pushin is curses secret weapon for finding scum its a good one just accept it pls

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now if ur all quite done arguing w me for a moment pls confer amongst urselves while i go get our secret pasta sauce ingredients thank u i will be back soon

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now this town is running into why i picked andante LOL

might i suggest that u all use ur momentum while u got it???? im gonna stuff myself fulla mint ice cream hope u get a lim before deadline PEACE

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actually realized too late i should explain like what i meant there

1: all my past arguments hold ok so shut up tryina call this some kinda slip or w/e
2: but also andante wagon already movin when ircher one got stopped by roleclaim so like u know which ones gonna be easier to get movin right
3: also i dont know why this town is so fuckin shy abt wagon composition on day 1 like i seen 3 or 4 ppl mention this shit. like ur reads are shit. everyones reads are shit ITS D1. u get the elim u can get then use that to sort earlier play like ?????

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PLS SEE POINT 1 THANKS

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noraa ur push is bad

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damn i need 2 think before i hit submit

i dont mean bad like scummy i mean bad like are u joking i cant take u seriously w this style. u are just the butt of ur own joke. heartbreaking

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but im not sayin hes green im js andante def is NOT green and dunn??? might be might not be i would need more time 2 decide there

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like u are makin the wrong argument at the wrong person here and it makes u look like a farce

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fuuuuuuuuuuuuck, i cant beat that w andante. fine

VOTE: Grendel

cant have SHIIIIITTTTTT here

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u should catch up

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i hate havin sleep disturbance shits ruining everything omg

holding off vote for rn cuz want vote count and also godddd my reads are shiftin here but im gonna just. im gonna tell u all abt that next dayphase if this one moves as fast as it feels like it will god im talkin like fuckin curse HELP.

also like i think irch scummy still. yeah yeah some drop in scum levels here since scumteam had info to set dude up for d2 mislim, but also tet aint wrong so like ??? what do u expect LOL.

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val is number 2 for me norwegian like dw i get u LOL

but u gotta play correct n correct play is ircher yeet

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VOTE: ircher

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ircher being the elim today gives a clearer picture of what was going on yesterday with as little scum recooperating today as possible. does that make sense? plus two nights of tpr info going into day 3.

just in case yall missed it


PEDIT: uhh no LOL????

flea i think u will need to be lookin into this next dayphase i am sorry 2 tell u like ... pls read literally the quote in this post thank u

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ok, you got my attn now. why did u not lead w that then LOL

pedit noraa u need to pay attention its abt getting ai info out of d1 since we didnt fuckin manage that already, w/o givin scum chance 2 posture around n shit

pedit 2 GOD IM NOT EVEN CURSE WHY PLS LET ME POST

PEDIT 3 HELP

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tictic is like top 4 scumfuck in game idk what u think ur doin buddy LOL

pls bear w me i keep gettin hung up on brain shit like. im havin fuckin memory failure keep thinking re7 mold instad of control mold like ??? n then i start thinkin the clog. yea my brains fucky LOL

so like noraas right like whoever visited aint gonna tell u thats for sure

tbh i think yall should infodump tbh, n then we continue according 2 plan w ur death in mind. im p sure irch is scum idk if irch is visited u but like ??? scumfuck for sure n then ur other scumreads aint off base either??? extra info good ofc. thing is like u can see tictics usin this to try n play off of n build positioning its fuckin transparent and like thats the entire point of the whole "lets kill irch now" thing exactly like tet mentioned

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tho it didnt hurt here cuz LOOK AT THAT CAUGHT SCUM

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imo???? good reads, loud, hyperposts, builds good rapport w other players

pedit: tictic u are so scummy u are failing 2 make good use of ur opportunity but a better scumplayer could just totally fleece the town here LOL pls sit down

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tictic pls read the role of dearly departed grendel and stop tryin for miseliminations THANKS THANK U

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so u r saying lld privately submitted dayvig action 2 cakez whoooooo as our nonbastard moderator has said threadlock was for trollin

ok. that makes no fuckin sense LOL

lets take the flipside ok

scumteam cant decide on a target cuz so many ppl want 2 kill them. BUT WAIT tictic goes "i know, target bears n when they claim poisoned dw i got u i will use it to pioneer a mislim on lld cuz of the dumb dayvig thing"

literally only 1 of these 2 makes sense n then i think neithers true i think this is frantic asscoverage after the fact tbh LOOOOL

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pls read last sentence again

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u are like top 3 scum andante but tictic is comin for ur spot. quick say some super fake shit before u are dethroned

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well done u retain ur championship title

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LOL nowegian just saying what im thinking i hate it here LOOOOOL

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psssst it mean ur shit looks fuckin fake lol

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its alien parasite growin in a little hole out of normal reality sorta deal

looks like mold

p much the way u will die outside bossfights 9 times out of 10 in the back half of the game but it dont got a lot of lore around it tbh

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tbh they been town for awhile LOL

u are fallin in my reads tho bell what gives

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why didnt that preview god

tbh bell ur scum why are u lining up lims LOL? literally feeling no connection w u here. like ur hardly even playin, you aint talkin to me u just try to line up a lim on me after irch flips which like LOL i hard bussed from jump cool cool keep sayin that 2 urself

PEDIT THANK U FORUM FOR INFORMING ME THIS TIME

lol bell ur fuckin scum is what it is

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god i love seeing the fakest fucking itneractions ever here

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bell ur scummy enough to eat a lim on ur own merits dont u worry lil pal

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nah bell slipped in and built a bigger 1 behind it like a fart in the night

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curse is tempted to sort andantes entire iso into buckets of "NAI" "fake as hell" and "legitimate and unconsidered" bc we both think 2567 might be the only legit window into andante this entire game

PEDIT FLEA IT WAS A GOOD LINE LOOOOL

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LOL that was curse tho. i think we jus assume ur 1 honest post was an unexpected moment of perspective n ur scumfuck

pedit wait that tracks w our trajecotry on u tho

hold pls

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hmmmm it aint like just seriousness tho. its fakeness. like u got moments u drop all pretense of havin fun n just start talking mech but like u choose ur language n word ur sentence v v carefully u know like u tiptoing around what u want 2 convinces ppl 2 listen 2 u

like we get townpings from ur first to ur 25th posts right n then u give us TWO UNCONSIDERED MOMENTS here early on d2, everything in btwn is like u got a hidden agenda like ???

can u explain

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damn well u cannot say i didnt try 2 reach out

irch u realize why u have 2 die today right

PEDIT ANDANTE OBVSCUM LOOOOOOOOOL whats the word like fuckin. openwolfing LOL

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ur no fun catboi god i cant have shit here

(good call tho i forgot)

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Shrike pushed out of front temporarily, so I'll weigh in on this.

Mala is infinitely more townie than you, Andante. I don't think I can point to posts of yours that A. mean anything and B. aren't slimy. You have used car salesman vibes. Mala's been light on contributions but long on town energy. See, it's not about how much work is going in or how directed it is, it can't be faked that way. It's about your inability to pass the sniff test.

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cause you're clearly not trying to find maf

Baseless assertion.

Andante is town

No.

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Tet is our new Officially Licensed Medium in case of untimely doom. Dragons has gone off into alien territory, but Tet is fully in sync with me right now, and Shrike doesn't disagree.

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I don't remember having any real issue with you this game, Tet.

PEDIT: I disagree based on my read of STD's slot. Would be glad to be wrong though.

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Nah Mala, I think we're on the same page here. It's a claim that buys time for his team to posture around him, can be ridden indefinitely if town is foolish enough to permit, and which is fairly low in terms of utility so him surviving NKs won't be questioned. It's the perfect "I'm going to lay low and hope I can dodge this bullet" claim.

Which is fine, such things happen. Except that the slot didn't try to town it up any. No interest in scumhunting. Fake looking reads (seems we disagree on that point, but eh).

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Galron just saying what I said with different words. I always like when that happens.

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Don't worry, I wouldn't make you a medium. A prerequisite for that is repeatedly sniping the thoughts right out of our head.

@Mala, I believe Shrike also said Ircher is probably a keystone scum role on D1. I think that holds -- pay attention to how desperate people are to derail the Ircher wagon, both D1 and D2. It just keeps happening.

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You mistook Shrike's memeshit for a serious dislike, but either way Shrike and I aren't the same person and have different opinions about things, tictac.

I don't know what gotcha you thought you had here, but I'm sorry to say you won't be getting it.

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I really don’t think andate is scum. I really don’t. I do have to meta-dive her to put why I don’t think she’s scum into words and see if what I’m feeling is true. NGL I can’t even read day 1 — do I want to spend what limited time I have trying to stay recent on a game or ruin it by trying to meta.

I'd like to see a non-meta argument, personally.

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I can't buy a world with Andante as town, personally.

But I do agree with getting an Ircher flip sooner, rather than later. There's no way that all my scumreads are scum, that's half the playerlist. So there's something that has me unable to see what the rest of the playerlist sees, and I think it's likely that Ircher either is it or will reveal it.

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I ... don't think that's a good idea. I don't find meta convincing. I'd listen to a solid non-meta argument.

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EHHHH chill flea like u let titus say it n titus said poison so like we been thinking of it as poisoning on our end too like i dont think u can read into that

pedit GOD i cant have shiiiiiiiiiiiiiit

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some1 tell me what they think abt 2693 thanks

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...thats not progression LOOOOOOOOOL

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ok yeah its a progression the same way u technically make progress when u fall off a cliff LOL

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whats ur thoughts catboi

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tbh i hope ur wrong just cuz i dont think we can elt andante go LOL so scummy

ircher must go tho it will open up the game so much

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like im gonna go back thru n tally up all the fuckin ppl who tried to derail this lim when irch flips red like YOOOO FREE GAMESOLVE LOL

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relax relax u have nothin 2 worry abt unless u were one of those ppl

u werent were u? thatd be real funny if lld caught 2 scum out the fuckin gate w me

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i dont think u know what we do to hunt tbh since u think rn is hunting

like no it aint hunting yet. last dayphase was. today aint, today is shitpost mightily

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If you wanna just claim do you but I would rather kill Ircher

mastina n roden u mean

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tbh i still dont buy it. like i get what ur sayin but like. andantes play is so scumfriendly... i cannot get to there from where i am. grant u that is the case w a lot of players rn but andantes got bonus scumplay points w the off wagon pushing, constant and consistent attempt 2 derail wagon apparently belonging to 1 of her scumread, completely ????? inexplicable reads on lowimpact slots, crappy contradictory shitpush on mala, etc etc... it takes this from just like "oh i guess this is space-town" 2 "this is pure red"

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i didnt even mention the like complete fakeness cuz tbh if u cant see that u cant see that at this point literally 0 genuine feelin 2 this posts

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no i get you. it hurt me putting those sentences together physically. But its also one of those I dont get what they are doing as either alignment kind of things. Versus like Thewayitends playing both sides of the fence and tictacs play, I can see vaguely what they are trying to get done.

tbh like this is SOLID PROOF ++++++ to me that u are comin from right townie pov cuz i didnt even say shit abt endy cuz i was thinkin like keep that shit in a back pocket for now n no one else said shiiiiiiit but like u picked it right up anyway like either u tmi or u see what i see

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He also still isn't scum hunting

You don't think forming reads is scum hunting? Then what do you count as scum hunting? Just because /you/ think my reads are fake and not genuine doesn't mean they are. Try looking at things from both a town Ircher and a scum Ircher perspective because it is self-evident you are only considering the latter here.

oh dont worry buddy ur scummy enough u could be scumhunting and i wuold still say we fuckin yeet u
n ur good for info cus like d1 revolved around u
n ur role is garbage LOL
n u got rbed despite crap poopy role which feels like mega fake 2 me or like scum need 2 neutralize every single advantage town can ever get which IDK ABT THAT WE KILLED OUR OWN PR LOL
n like.... idk what 2 tell u cuz u are the lim for today idk why u think ur gonna get out of that is. ??? mystifying u truly are an enigma pls flip already LOL

PEDIT damnnnnnnnnnnn like thats all true tho. damn sucks ur plays magically turnin non stinky but u drew red n i am committed here like its do or die LOL

1v1 me to ur CERTAIN DOOM

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im doin little elsewhere which is why i got opinions on every player LOL have u considered the value of factchecking ur words

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meanwhile ircher u post a big reads wall n it looks fuckin pulled from a hat. n u throw shade on roden who tbf totally fuckin deserves it. n u throw shade on me now. well buddy what u do not know is that i am a v shade tolerant species of plant (i googled for this it is the technical term ok i did research to shitpost for u i hope u appreciate it) and u cannot kill me that way

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im makin pasta sauce today but i will have u know that i will ask u to list those reads that are what u say they are cuz i think u will find urself quite mistaken LOL tbh i dont think theres one scumread that i got that fits ur criteria

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idgi galron but i like ur vibe

also glad 2 see this scumpair is gonna tank together like no i will not accept tstbs argument when ircher flips u will eat ur lim n like it andante LOL

anyway pasta sauce was fuckin GOOD my feet are killing me have u considered standing on hard tile for hours might hurt ur feet like damn i was so surprised anyway curse wants front and is gonna go grab somethin 2 drink i think

peace

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Okay, I'm keeping Shrike out of this for now. I want control, I want to enjoy my pudding, and I want to stop Shrike from crushing too heavily here. We have to be able to make common cause with at least some of the people we are scumreading now, burning too many bridges is unhelpful and unnecessary.

Which is why I'm going to be tactically burning a very few bridges I don't actually care about.


Roden, what do you get out of engaging with a scum Ircher focused on cheap shots and tearing down strong town voices before they can townblock and crush scum? Why do you do that as town, I mean? It seems important to clarify, given this would be Grade A theater.


Andante, tell me how your self-destruction advances a town win-con in the case of Ircher, who is EXACTLY as good flipped as he would be confirmed? I can understand it with a scum wincon, if Ircher is a keystone scum role, but town townreading Ircher doesn't make any sense to throw everything out here.


Dunnstral, can I impose upon you to actually produce fucking content? Alignment indicative not on the defensive please and thank you.

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That's nice, Bell. You're as good as flipped red already from what I know of you, so I won't take this too personally.

I guess I'm throwing axes in Control as well as D&D.

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If you call that pushing, Dunn, I'm a playground bully who has shoved every slot in the game. You barely gave them a mean glare.

No good. Try again.

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That's nice, Bell. You're as good as flipped red already from what I know of you, so I won't take this too personally.

I guess I'm throwing axes in Control as well as D&D.

I’m definitely not flipping red so either you don’t know much or you’re scum.

Surprise surprise, I'm town. Town doesn't have information, so yeah, I don't know much. This is as obvious as the day is long. Would you like to try again?

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*blink* I’m not following your point since it’s different from the point you made about me being obvscum.

Bell, think back to all the time we have spent in Death Curse and in D&D.

Thinking of all that? Good.

Name one time it struck you that I'm a particularly intelligent person. No, the eureka Death Curse midgame doesn't count, I was just wielding great power and sussing out one solitary manipulation tactic.

How long did it take you to think of that?

What if I told you it's all a fantasy and you're bullshitting yourself? That the cackling moron who throws an axe at a dragon is who I really am?

Honestly, I'm baffled no one realized it before now.

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You’re trying to sell me something.

But no, I think we’re all equally stupid within a modest range.

You have it all backwards.

I'm trying to sell everyone that I'm cool and insightful all the time. This is me just laying my cards on the table and watching your face.

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Bell. You're telling me these things as if they're supposed to make something click into place. Let me be abundantly clear: If you shake me, my head rattles. There is no realization coming.

I do not understand what you are telling me or why it matters. I'm hoping for that rare moment the light clicks on and I understand what all the stuff I've been stubbing my toes on was. I have no plan but to make you fail to comprehend my own incomprehension until such time as either I townread you or you decide there is actually nothing going on in this head of mine and you can barely convince me of the simplest things if you hold my hand and walk me through it.

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Fascinating. Tell me more.

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I get triggered because I don’t like being miseliminated because of powerlessness and depression and all that good stuff.
Not that I don’t lean into it when I’m scum though I’ve tried to move away from it.

Nope. Not ringing any bells. Oh well. I'm letting Shrike take back over now that chocolate pudding and ginger ale has faded into heartburn and gassiness. (I have earned the right to indulge without regret for today.) Byebye.

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nah i got nothing either. i cant believe yall jus watched curse throw out all our combined rep n didnt say fuckin anything smfh cant have shit in this town

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*blink* I’m not following your point since it’s different from the point you made about me being obvscum.

Bell, think back to all the time we have spent in Death Curse and in D&D.

Thinking of all that? Good.

Name one time it struck you that I'm a particularly intelligent person. No, the eureka Death Curse midgame doesn't count, I was just wielding great power and sussing out one solitary manipulation tactic.

How long did it take you to think of that?

What if I told you it's all a fantasy and you're bullshitting yourself? That the cackling moron who throws an axe at a dragon is who I really am?

Honestly, I'm baffled no one realized it before now.

If this is how you really feel why are you so confident about your takes.

why did u wait until it was too late omfg i fuckin hate it here LOL

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listen. curse was 1000% full of shit. i say allthe time when i formed i sucked all the fuckin stupid outta this head n embodied the dumbass. i revel in my own stupidity over here ok. they tell me to talk at the dulueueze cabal in the discoridan community n i jus make shit up cuz im there for the donuts n coffee n if im stupid enough they jus think im ironic LOL

curse is extra smart n can talk abt like philosophy n shit in public like who the fuck knows what a philosophy is. who. do not believe its lies its mega extra smart 100000%

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catboi pls explain ur fuckin andante read im beggin u to make this all make sense plsssssss

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Andante tilting is frustrating but she is locktown for it, doubts have gone away

I do not think Roden arguing with Ircher is actually productive at all

Why don't you suggest more productive activities then?

who sees this n goes "ah yea thats town"

like this is jus straight up fuckin scumpost LOL

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ok listen im not tryin to convince u here catboi but like

what says ur meta isnt like. outdated or some shit

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god do u know how much we hate this do u even have any clue omgggggggg

fuckin. ok. ok. but god we gotta flip that before elo like omg

PEDIT I DONT AGREE BUT LIKE OK LOL

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like. if irch is important enough scum. could be worth it 2 get another day out of irch

esp if 5p scumteam

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hi

val was green what the FUCK

andante ur scumfuck pls get in pile i will deal w u in time

top suspects rn: bears, dunn, twie -- HI tet ur right n u should say it. whos our overlooked slot cuz someones our overlooked slot someone figure this out for me thank u

val green makes d1 wagon oh so fresh n clean what the gibbering FUUUUUUUUCK omg this fuckin w me

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noraa hush i dont trust u all literally 1 bit rn u fuckin wagon derailin hydra u LOL

imo twies it for today n if u end up dyin 2nite yo solves easier cuz 1 my wrong reads gone!!!!

[MUSHSHAGANA]

when do u think i bus that valuable role so fuckin hard TRY AGAIN LOL dumbest fuckin accusation everrrrrrr

PEDIT LOL BEARS SCUMFUCK NOW LOL

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t3 slot was val bell LOL

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dunn do u think i dont know that but all yall r fuckin scummy so 1-2 of u 3 is scum i just gotta figure out best target for d4 2 solve yall

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no twie is scummier READ THE POSTS OMG LOL

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chill we are killing thewayitends today. who did not figuratively scumclaim yesterday but LITERALLY scumclaimed yesterday.

i didnt read the last half of yesterday. what did they do?

-noraa

I dont think it is a coincidence that his entire iso revolves around Ircher. Plus his fencesitting but inexplicable hard defense of leaving ircher for d4.

thats not a scumclaim

Go look at Twie's iso and tell me thats town. And then i will say ok. And then we will turbo piledrive their wagon into the ground producing a red flip. And then i will die in the night. And then you will have to explain SOOOOO much shit tomorrow.

IM SO GLAD UR HERE

[MUSHSHAGANA]

VOTE: twie

ITS SCUM LETS GOOOOO

[MUSHSHAGANA]

andante ur d4 for this shit im js LOL

(dunn might actually b better flip but andantes got more scum points saved up)

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food 4 thought 2nite:

grendel val green, reread d1 w that in mind what stands out?????

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bears u get nothin from me. literall nothin. dont care dont care ur scummy af rn.

as nu headmate says, "word shadow" i do not understand yall ur words cast darkness

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Jesus fucking Christ, I'll come back later when it's less busy.

toog town????? holy fuck i think i can read toog LOL

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i gotta be careful n not give in 2 overconfidence



but toog town????????

n i think that vc is fucking NOTHING. 2 noisy

[MUSHSHAGANA]

This game is the best XD

yeah idc how u flip ur right abt this 1 im havin a fuckin blast omg

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dunn is showing literally every single scum tell he has ever had in this game.

name 1

yea i have 2 agree cuz u keep sayin theres like specific dunn scumtell n then u jus fuckin dodge the q when asked 2 point 1 out like LOL

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tbh i think ircher readlist is lot of nothin

i have not looked at it LOL

[MUSHSHAGANA]

oh and if you know your partner is going over, you'd wanna bus for town points... I think I SRed early ircher posts too, so uhh at least 1 partner was definitely on team "BUS IRCHER!"

yea hey tet what do u see here

[MUSHSHAGANA]

hush bears im doin somethin

[MUSHSHAGANA]

more general tet

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I think I SRed early ircher posts too, so uhh at least 1 partner was definitely on team "BUS IRCHER!"

What is the connection between you sring ircher and mafia bussing?

OMG U FUCK I WAS WALKIN AROUND IT OMG LOL

anywayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

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tbh this might be bigger scumclaim than twie. if i can suggest 2 vig, pls shoot this n also, this is like the second time andante has dived in front of bullet aimed at like almost guaranteed red so like if this flips green i will eat my hat. no wait

i will eat an icecream replica of my hat. wait 2 complex.

i will eat a delicious pint of ice cream

there we go

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u know thats tough call. they prob both weak scum like goon or somethin, cuz both like willin 2 self sac for irch. granted irch p strong. u know hmmmm i let u make this call tet

[MUSHSHAGANA]

fuck it i say stick 2 twie on that flavor claim

[MUSHSHAGANA]

gut feelin

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no means i think u r prob worst flip of ur trio andante

dunn/bears better flip thinkin bears if they survive another night is best flip option

twie best for today

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still there LOL????/ like u 3 cant be scum 2gether bears solve u n dunn both n if bears stay livin imo scummy scummy like. wtf is ur q mean

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tbh ur q looks like agenda at this point

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andante. have u read a single fuckin post i made. twie is 2days lim. do u understand that this is not up for debate rn unless its u instead. like u can have 1 or u can have the other. do u want 2 b the lim cuz. like. i just said no. i can change my mind. tbh its ok info flip. twie dies tomorrowanyway. what do u want 2 do here cuz this is it, this is ur only choices LOL

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likeeeee what abt my play makes u think im easily swayed.

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naaaaaaah sry. u get nothin from me andante.

im think ur scumfuck still n i hate ur agenda driven play today LOL

u can wagon this or u can sit back n defend scum till u flip

also re irch readslist what catboi said its trash poo garbage u will b misled LOL

[MUSHSHAGANA]

i think thats playin

but u know when u get 2 jokey n u cross a line its like that but for mafia i think LOL

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god i forgot tictic

yea thats gotta be red but twies got the scumpoint high score atm imo n i am inclined 2 stick 2 the plan

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Can we think in more complex thoughts than "scum must be here on/off wagon" and analyze actions pls I am begging u.

I hope theres an explanation from andante about that weird busting post before I catch up the rest of the way

uhhhh have u read why ppl think twie scum

cuz its not wagon shit lol

in fact i aint checked a vc cept the 1 dunn posted which was noisy as fuck like what are u gonna get from that??? nothin fuck all its crap the flips 2 scattered on it so like ???? it means nothing

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wagons will matter when we got more data tho imo. rn tho im interested in actions absolutely fuck

n twie is a fuckin nothin slot theres NOTHING THERE omg

[MUSHSHAGANA]

rodenirch coud b theater still i just think that roden slots productive enough i dont need 2 sort it yet

[MUSHSHAGANA]

tbh yea ur right @ceph but tbh that makes it even better push right???? like. scum independent of irch flip then also high defending irch ???? wtf smashy slot

[MUSHSHAGANA]

twie woud get pushed if irch fliped town for tmi n lurkshit play

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its more a factor of twie bein scumfuck than irch flip in particular tho

[MUSHSHAGANA]

idfk tet buddy i think u just proved my point like. huntin on these wagons is useless the same suspects crop up no matter what u do

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ahaahahahaha the real scum was the friends we made along the way norweigian LOL

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whats smart abt what cephs sayin is it means even if ur wrong u still catch scum

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wrong abt flavor mattering i mean

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im not going to make a lot of assumptions about flavor this game. let's just play mafia imo.

okay who's da scumz

whos on ur list

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thats kinda where im at. i got a couple strong scumreads too, but nothin like i had w ircher, that was divine intervention handin me that info i could SMELL IT LOL

tictic n twie r my best guesses at scum rn

bell tet catboi my towns rn im fully in pocket of big tet esp

imo deepwolf woud be in norw-dragons-u
1-2 scum (unsure) in andante-dunn-bears
n tictic + twie is prime scum territory

[MUSHSHAGANA]

rest of game literally who i dont know u

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oh yeah right also toogs like town lean n rodens somewhere in the basement idk

idk i dont keep track of them they just do what they want right its like cats i clean the litter box n hope they eat the fuckin food i set out instead of fighting snakes again

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end does not look like a slamdunk, but kinda tempted to sheeple

VOTE: tictic

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wait fuck imsorry shit tictac sorry

tbh i was straighup misreading ur shit like in my head u are tictic ovr ur avatar thats complete my bad

sorry abt that will try 2 fix it from now on

(ur still scum tho)

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yea me gettin pings from arish is like my own thing LOL

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i think u stretchin there but idk if its a stretch worth makin or not

[MUSHSHAGANA]

do u know what a deepwolf is

like i tr u but i worry: should i?

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Morning. VOTE: TWIE

I'm not doing anything but placing the vote, Shrike is exhausted from bad dreams. It will weigh in if it can.

[MUSHSHAGANA]

Quick double check, that's E-1.

[MUSHSHAGANA]

tettttttt u have 2 carry on after i die so u can gaze in 2 ur crystal ball n boldly pronounce my thoughts in public




PEDIT FINE CEPH UNVOTE:

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tbh ceph i think u come out lookin scummier for this if u dont give us more scum n twie flips red

theres like 3 diff reasons n all of em r pretty weak but like. ??? scumy

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not wanting the day to end immediately isn't scummy, and if i were scum here i would not be absurd enough to think twie is going to live today or that his play would even be worth saving

none of these r what im gettin at but ok buddy

[MUSHSHAGANA]

my ircher iso has brought me to a shocking conclusion: mush is town!

thanks for subscribing to my podcast. more insights every monday at exactly 9:31 am

its 1231

get out of the future omfg

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tbh i see the same shit n i get scumvibes. like i can see what ur getting at but i do not agree w u like at all.

n the difference is in cadence u know? pushing elsewhere when voting irch, voting elsewhere when pushing irch kinda deal

[MUSHSHAGANA]

it reads like distance + trying 2 sap momentum

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thats where sapping momentum comes in ceph

like if u see a wagon stalling n u try 2 rally the troops onto it w/o being willing 2 take credit/blame, no one will follow ur cowardly push, u basically kill the wagon there

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n like i dont think this is like a conscious thing, i think its a thing some ppl got a gift 4

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thats why i think u 2 n norwegian r deepwolf territory ceph

[MUSHSHAGANA]

i will fuckin throw down for bell rn tbh LOL

like i got a vibe. igot nothin 2 back that up but i got that fuckin spark from death curse like HEY I KNOW U WHATS UP

dunn tho idk im not really sold on either way. weak slot tbh

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tbh more i think abt it more i think dunn is 100% flip red if bears green

[MUSHSHAGANA]

can u all believe btw the bears all 3 of em been silent for 20 unbroken hours

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im gonna b bells andante. u will have 2 go thru me ok

bell does need 2 step it up b4 we hit endgame but for real im confident enough there 2 let him coast awhile. not ircher-confident but p high up there. id rather powerlim u than let u go for bell just as im gettin a spark of "wait i remember u".

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gut ping of "i can use ur brain as a co-processor 2 find n eliminate all the scum"

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if u ever read death curse its literally what happened in that game

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as 4 this surface level bullshit how do u explain me settin u n dragons n norwegian in deepwolf territory. like u three are not fuckin carbon copies of each other n surface level u all look town

fuck offfffff jus cuz icant type or explain shit well dosnt mean im dumb

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thats bs n u know it. bells been disagreein all game. bears r scum LITERALLY cuz they aint dead yet but this towns fuckin sleepwalkin thru that so wtf ever. norwegian n i agree like a lot. toog n i do not agree at all. ur just throwin shit in my direction bc u want 2 believe i have a simplistic view of the game.

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like im sorry 2 say ur prejudice is wrong

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toog n i do not agree at all.

I'll try to be more agreeable.

why do u lie to me

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I have qualms with the current status quo.

cool what are you gonna do about it

nothin i guess

when will u apologize for misrepping my play as simple minded

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I thought being Mold'd would at least partly clear us.

allow me 2 show u the problem w that

ahem

oh no i have made eye contact w the fridge. idk what it means but i might die.

oh no. what a disaster, i think.

ok am i clear now

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I have qualms with the current status quo.

cool what are you gonna do about it

Meh... I uh, forgot the word "no" in there somewhere.

OMG

LOOOOOOOL

a+++++ troll im fuckin framing this n hangin it on my wall

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what im gettin at is fakeclaim lol

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dw i will remember this

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OK so my challenge is do you really think Nora or Titus would let me fake-claim, never mind go along with it

-Pinkie the Mouldy Bear

u made a mistake

titus was the 1 who claimed u just added flavor

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n since everyone was like mega sus of u for hunting for who visited u the nigth prior like what were u gonna do?????

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so ur gonna shitpost in2 ur grave. admirable rly. listen i respect it. its wrong and ur makin a mistake but i respect that ur decision is 2 shitpost until u can shitpost no longer. we shoud all aspire 2 such a nature

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do u have literally any defense of urself cuz "no u" wont work when u have no content but "let me try 2 save the powerful scum" in ur ISO buddy

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its not like theres lot of content we coud be missing LOL

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LITERALLY town-irchers value 2 town was identical whether flipped or confed after that 1st night. literally indisinguishable, trending 2 better flipped in the late game. what is this bs ur trying 2 sell LOL.

meanwhile scum irch turns out 2 have been a VERY POWERFUL SCUM ROLE FOR LIKE???? EXACTLY. 3 NIGHTS. which OH HOW INTERESTIN is exactly what u wanted 2 give him LOL

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LOL w/e do u realize u dug urself a fuckin abyss twie????

ANYWAY i just blitzed lld ISO and i think some1 whos actually good at like. communication u know. shoud case cephrir

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b4 anyone says anything abt the ISO shhhhh im know what im doing thank u

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im not sayin shit i want 2 see a case. towncase scumcase idgaf

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ur caught scum LOL hush we solvin

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if this day drags on i'll probably get to it. Ceph is in the back of my mind as "if i'm wrong on a townread its probably ceph" but i also feel that way about std. I'd have to get the time to devote brainpower towards figuring it out though.

listen go check lld iso i want ur take on this before day end

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also everythin immediate b4 lld focus on ircher.

read thru theres parallels on both slots, i just want 2 sleep on 1 n i didnt have a good pick for which 1

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yea n when u know 1 of us is dyin 2nite like.... i DO NOT want 2 push this lim thru b4 we get to dig

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andante shush ur face or do work

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and u call my play simple minded ceph

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Curse here briefly. I'll make time after I get my pizza out of the oven.

I think there's a magic trick being pulled on the entire thread around page 65. I think Tet recognized something was wrong, but didn't notice the cards had been switched. That page is so telling, though you have to go all the way back to page 61 to see that something has been shifted on you.

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this pinkie push is kinda weird though

the ircher defense of ceph is weird

i like val so far actually

LLD null

Ircher defending Ceph or vice versa?

Also I don't recall either one.

Here's Tet seeing the magic trick but not realizing what happened.

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on further thought i think i'll just get the popcorn and sit this one out

Here's Cephrir's last meaningful post post before TWIE sends that message.

like, sure there's nothing in meg's ISO, but could just be lost town? or is lost town not an option in yalls books?

It's certainly an option, but just being an option doesn't mean it's actually the case.

I can't really help you with your death tunnel at this point then.

I didn't think your initial posts and arguments were too scummy. As I mentioned before, I've seen plenty of stubborn town players that stick to their guns even when they are wrong. However, the continued focus on defending and arguing back in place of forming reads (that are not based entirely in OMGUS) strikes me as a tactic scum adopts. Not only is it distracting to the rest of the thread, it makes you look busy while in reality, you are just treading the same old ground again and again.

whereas if you just take 1 look at Arcade, Arcade screams maf...

I think that's just their style. I've played several games with Dunnstral both with him as town and as scum, and this seems pretty par for the course. They certainly could be scum, but it's hard to tell either way after you account for playstyle differences.

i wanna see ircher's readlist

I am still working on it unfortunately. I will have it by the end of Friday; I promise. You can lim me without hesitation if I don't follow through.

and Ircher I played a game with a LONG time ago.

It has indeed, back in 2016 for Newbie 1709. I'm glad to see you're still around!

And here's Ircher's last post before same.

Do you see something missing?

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what have you done

I was the one who led the Ircher push initially and then came back from being sick and reinvigorated ircher wagon again.

And did a fakevig against Three Bears to force more sight onto how they were playing... a thing I still need to go bakc and reread, gvien I got sick right after I did it and didn't get a good shot to evaluate it.

But given I've spotlighted those 2 slots for attention and death all day, it feels like you're looking at me doing the things you're doing and going "hard null".

That's... that doesn't make sense.

This is the top of Page 61. This LLD-STD fight goes on until at least shortly before TWIE makes the offending post. LLD neverreally backs down, everyone just pushes Ircher to claim and that claim stops town momentum dead and forces town onto a compromise wagon that (predictably) hits green. STD never re-enters LLD's good graces.