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I guess to explain my simple assumption.
@lukewarm.
If Myko comes into a game and introduces themselves as someone who does not like the color red.
And then a thing that is red in color appears.
I would expect myko not to like the red part of the thing that appears.
They’ve been surprisingly mercurial about that though.- Bell
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I guess you also missed the part where I’m not thrilled with/scum reading andanteIn post 1676, Cephrir wrote:im paying attention andante
i kinda want bell to pair with you so you don't have to leave but im not sure if thats a subconscious townread or i just like you
but he noped the fuck out of that instantly for some reason ?- Bell
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What did they even postIn post 1680, Lukewarm wrote:I've liked Cephrir's posts tonight.
I guess wrt Myko, I agree that pairing with Enchanct is a ??? play as scum.
I just scum read basically everything else >.<- Bell
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Reads:In post 1684, Cephrir wrote:i just assume all of bell's reads are that i'm the devil and should not only be elimed but cast back down to the hell that birthed me
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I wasn’t talking about myko’s posts. I’ve read all of those, was referring to Cephrir but multiple people started saying they liked Cephrir’s comments and solving but I didn’t find anything memorable or really significant one way or the other.
@Mala: I associate your play style with pushing other players in attempts to solve them. Rather than a more showy-analytical play style that you’re demonstrating here. I don’t know what the change is from.- Bell
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Yes.In post 1717, Dunnstral wrote:So you are scumreading me because I made 1412 and you think that I used too many words to explain why I think you are mafia?- Bell
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Both you and the player you replaced have enough posts in the game that I sort of doubt it could be considered game throwing to leave quickly. There’s info to make an informed (if bad) decision.
I’m also just curious if they do it, given someone said they could, then said they couldn’t and then they tried to leave anyway.
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Please refrain from talking about sense with me.In post 1766, Andante wrote:
that makes exactly 0 sense.. what part of Cephrir is scummy? also if that’s your plan can you at least wait 12 hours to let me towncase ceph?In post 1764, Bell wrote:Currently leaning to pair with fire.- Bell
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Vibes they also haven’t done anything townie and I dunno why people think they have. I understand that people like cephrir, but why they genuinely think this is out of cephrir’s scum range is a mystery to me.In post 1771, fireisredsir wrote:
why is ceph scum this gameIn post 1764, Bell wrote:Currently leaning to pair with fire.
ive seen some of the comments you've made but i feel like they could apply to ceph every game
I’m not sure if cephrir is saying that I’d shoot him even if he was an IC and I were town because of the “I always tunnel” cephrir thing. Or if they mean it’s just generally annoying given my personality and play style to give me power over other people.
Though in true defensive fashion, I will state I have been trying to do the pressure thing and sort and stuff.
I’ll probably fuck up anyway, but I tried.- Bell
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It sure does just put them into “is this a ploy?” Limbo we all find ourselves in once every few games.In post 1822, Datisi wrote:
oofIn post 1816, Lukewarm wrote:Which this exchange left me wondering if Andante would follow through with it. The immediate back down when Dunn said that she could leave right now (despite that not actually being true
the fact that her bolded attempt to leave came after dunn told her she cannot leave right now is making any sorta townread i built on andante in the last few posts shatter lmao- Bell
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Blame Petapan. But It still stings, I just hide it better now.In post 1875, Cephrir wrote:
this is not an impression i have of youIn post 1873, Bell wrote:I’m weak to AtE you know- Bell
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I don't want to believe this is real.In post 1878, Andante wrote:uhhh haven't forgotten what I said I'd do here, I'm certain Ginngie is town, there is NO freaking way Ginngie is mafia, I'm using them to help me figure out what my actual reads even are cause here we have town, mafia, and the town I think are mafia, so I'm just figuring out stuff with Ginngie. I'm glad I wasn't able to leave last night, I have some high hopes. maf. we are on to you!!!!- Bell
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Well, you see. What I don't like about it is that you faked trying to leave your partner. Then your partner said they would never leave you for me. Then you said you would never leave your partner.In post 1881, Andante wrote:gg lads.... got 2 of them. Bell + Enchant. and who is number three?
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Thanks for the affirmation before reality cruelly slaps it away.In post 1904, Malakittens wrote:
I think Enchant is very likely scum & Myko is null-leaning town.In post 1902, Bell wrote:But I find it unlikely Myko and Enchant are both scum. So here we are.- Bell
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Lukewarm I would think.In post 1914, Dunnstral wrote:Who would Bell have picked as a safer option as mafia?- Bell
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It’s pointless for me to say this. But this pinged.In post 1909, Enchant wrote:I sleep.
Just in a case i just being sour, like you even listen to me or anyone after death, so i don't care.
Go give townreads to Dunn for casing town and watch he decimating you like nothing.- Bell
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Peer pressure. I felt stung by cephrir, I got fed up with enchant’s playstyle in a moment of annoyance. I did not think dunk’s case was bad. I feel like there are slightl differences in how enchant is standoffish as scum in comparison to town them. I wanted to make a choice that would increase game clarity rather than possibly diminish it. By getting rid of players that are difficult to read in a less complex environment. It’s clear myko and I probably aren’t going to get along, which I mentioned somewhere. But meh, worth it and I can always leave if I think they’re scum. I don’t know them well so there’s a risk of them rejecting me yeah. But based on their presentation they come off as a little haughty but i don’t really think they’d be inconsistent by making a play that lands themselves in opposition to the entire town, well until recently when certain players starting voicing suspicion. Though I’m not sure how fire or luke would have changed their mind. Since I’m posting fairly consistently and whatever posts they liked they’d probably circle if either/both are town and there’s not much point in them flipping on me much when I’m actually town and lose credit by going on a reversal. If they wanna go sage route.In post 1929, Ginngie wrote:Btw it would help me out immensely if you could explain why you choose myko over other people you were considering. I know you said you thought scum were between myko and enchant, but was there more to it than just that.- Bell
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I actually tend to think myko’s approach/attitude is townie but activity plays a lot into my reads and they’ve been inconsistent in a way that makes it murky. I’ve already mentioned some of the confusion I’ve had with myko’s game/game plan.
I don’t see scum motivation in their current positioning but I also, I mean they’ve talked about their passion in learning about players in that sort of simplistic way someone selling a part of themselves by talking about something they like or come off as passionate about, but they kind of exposition themselves instead of showing it or revealing that passion more clearly in the game in a moment of lost self-control.- Bell
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Basically, I went with a low risk/pairing rather than try to be a hero. Who solved the game while all the dumdums stood in awe of my brilliance. ESP. Cause I’m not that bright. And I don’t want the stress of dealing with backlash if I was wrong. I mean besides just having a null- to scum read, read on enchant.- Bell
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I’m pretty sure I’ve explained both of those reads and the reasons haven’t changed much since then. Red keeps making townie noises, their perspective seems to show a desire to sort and a level of anxiety about who is and isn’t scum. Red keeps posting out of nowhere in the absolute darkest of night.
Cephrir: they’re good scum, they’ve…largely interpreted my characterization of them as a personal/play style attack. It reads as a smear campaign. But I’m too afraid to say it while possibly being wrong. Because that might actually piss them off and I don’t want to piss off people. I don’t see extrodinary posting from them. I see them posting relatable statements and being nice to those that are nice to them.- Bell
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Pretty sure I already posted that fire and Luke pushing at me for suggesting it turned me off that road.In post 1945, Ginngie wrote:That's the longest form of a yes I've seen so far.
I'm assuming you sensed my next question that, if those reads were true, why not pair with Fire, a townread, to elimination Ceph, a scumread?
I thought I was pretty blatantly just going around pressuring people to sort them though. And I’m pretty sure I even out right said it once or twice. it was cephrir’s turn to get pushed.- Bell
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I was secretly miffed they didn’t let it breath to see how they’d respond. But meh, I do that too half the time. I only sometimes have self-discipline and left town reads swim on their own. Not to mention I don’t think it effected cephrir’s approach much. It might have been interesting to see cephrir’s response if they both started pressuring him too. But…now I’m just filling out words for words sake.
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No Luke wanted me to pair with them. I didn’t because this mala is trying and I can’t really understand them this game. It’s fizzy. They seem more comfortable, but it kind of feels like they’re making attempts to buddy up to people by saying relatable things, but then they do these confident reads.
My experience with mala is all over the place due to their hectic life stuff. I can never tell when they’re not trying because they’re scum and when they’re not trying because they’re town and busy. And I’m pretty sure that’s unfair anyway.
I just see them missing Aggro here, but making it up with a sort of intimacy that I can’t determine if it’s confidence or informed/positioning.
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