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Post Post #1677 (isolation #200) » Thu Apr 21, 2022 6:54 pm

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I guess to explain my simple assumption.
@lukewarm.
If Myko comes into a game and introduces themselves as someone who does not like the color red.
And then a thing that is red in color appears.
I would expect myko not to like the red part of the thing that appears.

They’ve been surprisingly mercurial about that though.
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Post Post #1679 (isolation #201) » Thu Apr 21, 2022 6:55 pm

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In post 1676, Cephrir wrote:im paying attention andante

i kinda want bell to pair with you so you don't have to leave but im not sure if thats a subconscious townread or i just like you

but he noped the fuck out of that instantly for some reason ?
I guess you also missed the part where I’m not thrilled with/scum reading andante
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Post Post #1682 (isolation #202) » Thu Apr 21, 2022 6:59 pm

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Mala confuses me with their sudden explainyness.

I can’t believe I spent my entire night working on modules for work while playing mafia. This was fun but I also want relax time dangit. *whines*
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Post Post #1683 (isolation #203) » Thu Apr 21, 2022 7:00 pm

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In post 1680, Lukewarm wrote:I've liked Cephrir's posts tonight.

I guess wrt Myko, I agree that pairing with Enchanct is a ??? play as scum.

I just scum read basically everything else >.<
What did they even post
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Post Post #1686 (isolation #204) » Thu Apr 21, 2022 7:04 pm

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Go to bed. I’m already in bed. Your mistake was playing mafia out of bed.
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Post Post #1687 (isolation #205) » Thu Apr 21, 2022 7:08 pm

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In post 1684, Cephrir wrote:i just assume all of bell's reads are that i'm the devil and should not only be elimed but cast back down to the hell that birthed me
Reads:

Town:
Bell.
Jingle.

Null:
cephrir
ceprir
cephrir
Cephrir
Cephrir.

Scum:
Cephrir
Cephrir
Pooky
Cephrir
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Post Post #1697 (isolation #206) » Thu Apr 21, 2022 8:31 pm

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I wasn’t talking about myko’s posts. I’ve read all of those, was referring to Cephrir but multiple people started saying they liked Cephrir’s comments and solving but I didn’t find anything memorable or really significant one way or the other.

@Mala: I associate your play style with pushing other players in attempts to solve them. Rather than a more showy-analytical play style that you’re demonstrating here. I don’t know what the change is from.
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Post Post #1698 (isolation #207) » Thu Apr 21, 2022 8:33 pm

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I’m growing a little concerned that I have a part of my mindset where I grow increasingly amazed that anyone could possibly scum read me the more I say. I wonder what that’s about. It doesn’t sound like a healthy mindset. /:
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Post Post #1700 (isolation #208) » Thu Apr 21, 2022 9:17 pm

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Dancing with Yddra’s ghost. :dead:
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Post Post #1758 (isolation #209) » Fri Apr 22, 2022 2:25 am

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In post 1717, Dunnstral wrote:So you are scumreading me because I made and you think that I used too many words to explain why I think you are mafia?
Yes.
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Post Post #1761 (isolation #210) » Fri Apr 22, 2022 2:41 am

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Both you and the player you replaced have enough posts in the game that I sort of doubt it could be considered game throwing to leave quickly. There’s info to make an informed (if bad) decision.

I’m also just curious if they do it, given someone said they could, then said they couldn’t and then they tried to leave anyway.
Like a dog with a leash. :3
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Post Post #1763 (isolation #211) » Fri Apr 22, 2022 2:44 am

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The tyranny of time and space on doggos will never be forgiven.
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Post Post #1764 (isolation #212) » Fri Apr 22, 2022 2:51 am

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Currently leaning to pair with fire.
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Post Post #1767 (isolation #213) » Fri Apr 22, 2022 2:54 am

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I’m trying to gauge ginggle’s response to a cogent counter argument Andante.
But sure, I’ll drop it.

Work work work. Sigh.

Bai all.
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Post Post #1768 (isolation #214) » Fri Apr 22, 2022 2:54 am

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In post 1766, Andante wrote:
In post 1764, Bell wrote:Currently leaning to pair with fire.
that makes exactly 0 sense.. what part of Cephrir is scummy? also if that’s your plan can you at least wait 12 hours to let me towncase ceph?
Please refrain from talking about sense with me.
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Post Post #1825 (isolation #215) » Fri Apr 22, 2022 8:15 am

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In post 1771, fireisredsir wrote:
In post 1764, Bell wrote:Currently leaning to pair with fire.
why is ceph scum this game

ive seen some of the comments you've made but i feel like they could apply to ceph every game
Vibes they also haven’t done anything townie and I dunno why people think they have. I understand that people like cephrir, but why they genuinely think this is out of cephrir’s scum range is a mystery to me.

I’m not sure if cephrir is saying that I’d shoot him even if he was an IC and I were town because of the “I always tunnel” cephrir thing. Or if they mean it’s just generally annoying given my personality and play style to give me power over other people.

Though in true defensive fashion, I will state I have been trying to do the pressure thing and sort and stuff.
I’ll probably fuck up anyway, but I tried.
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Post Post #1826 (isolation #216) » Fri Apr 22, 2022 8:17 am

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If the best lukewarm and Fire have is that they disagree, that’s cool I guess, but i’m placing responsibility on you for the decision not keep cephrir and their partner alive till end game.
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Post Post #1827 (isolation #217) » Fri Apr 22, 2022 8:17 am

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To keep*
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Post Post #1828 (isolation #218) » Fri Apr 22, 2022 8:18 am

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In post 1822, Datisi wrote:
In post 1816, Lukewarm wrote:Which this exchange left me wondering if Andante would follow through with it. The immediate back down when Dunn said that she could leave right now (despite that not actually being true
oof

the fact that her bolded attempt to leave came after dunn told her she cannot leave right now is making any sorta townread i built on andante in the last few posts shatter lmao
It sure does just put them into “is this a ploy?” Limbo we all find ourselves in once every few games.
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Post Post #1829 (isolation #219) » Fri Apr 22, 2022 8:19 am

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Back to work. I am a bad employee and I should feel bad.
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Post Post #1832 (isolation #220) » Fri Apr 22, 2022 8:25 am

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No she actually tried to leave AFTER learning she probably couldn’t.
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Post Post #1834 (isolation #221) » Fri Apr 22, 2022 8:26 am

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I don’t need to explain to you why scum might try to do that, right?
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Post Post #1835 (isolation #222) » Fri Apr 22, 2022 8:26 am

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Yeah, that.
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Post Post #1838 (isolation #223) » Fri Apr 22, 2022 8:30 am

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Because I was tunneled on Dunnstral?
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Post Post #1872 (isolation #224) » Fri Apr 22, 2022 11:03 am

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What’s this AtE stuff.
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Post Post #1873 (isolation #225) » Fri Apr 22, 2022 11:06 am

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I’m weak to AtE you know. Though, no I was pretty much planning to review and then make a decision and I didn’t think it likely it would be worth it to kill cephrir when there are broader issues.
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Post Post #1874 (isolation #226) » Fri Apr 22, 2022 11:07 am

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Though yes, I think if I don’t kill there now they’ll be a pairing that gets to end game.
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Post Post #1877 (isolation #227) » Fri Apr 22, 2022 1:44 pm

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In post 1875, Cephrir wrote:
In post 1873, Bell wrote:I’m weak to AtE you know
this is not an impression i have of you
Blame Petapan. But It still stings, I just hide it better now.
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Post Post #1880 (isolation #228) » Fri Apr 22, 2022 2:09 pm

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In post 1878, Andante wrote:uhhh haven't forgotten what I said I'd do here, I'm certain Ginngie is town, there is NO freaking way Ginngie is mafia, I'm using them to help me figure out what my actual reads even are cause here we have town, mafia, and the town I think are mafia, so I'm just figuring out stuff with Ginngie. I'm glad I wasn't able to leave last night, I have some high hopes. maf. we are on to you!!!!
I don't want to believe this is real.
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Post Post #1885 (isolation #229) » Fri Apr 22, 2022 2:40 pm

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VOTE: Pair with Mykonian
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Post Post #1887 (isolation #230) » Fri Apr 22, 2022 2:47 pm

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In post 1881, Andante wrote:gg lads.... got 2 of them. Bell + Enchant. and who is number three?

what don't you like about that bell?
Well, you see. What I don't like about it is that you faked trying to leave your partner. Then your partner said they would never leave you for me. Then you said you would never leave your partner.
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Post Post #1889 (isolation #231) » Fri Apr 22, 2022 2:55 pm

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Cool enchant,
take care and sorry for misreading you if you're town!
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Post Post #1893 (isolation #232) » Fri Apr 22, 2022 3:00 pm

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Oh.
No I always apologize for misreading someone if I misread them.
I'm responsible for my own reads.
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Post Post #1897 (isolation #233) » Fri Apr 22, 2022 3:15 pm

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Did Dunnstral grow fangs.
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Post Post #1901 (isolation #234) » Fri Apr 22, 2022 3:19 pm

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Mostly my internal argument for not pairing with them is that they were both probably gunna die anyway.
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Post Post #1902 (isolation #235) » Fri Apr 22, 2022 3:20 pm

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But I find it unlikely Myko and Enchant are both scum. So here we are.
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Post Post #1906 (isolation #236) » Fri Apr 22, 2022 3:25 pm

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In post 1904, Malakittens wrote:
In post 1902, Bell wrote:But I find it unlikely Myko and Enchant are both scum. So here we are.
I think Enchant is very likely scum & Myko is null-leaning town.
Thanks for the affirmation before reality cruelly slaps it away.
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Post Post #1918 (isolation #237) » Fri Apr 22, 2022 4:08 pm

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In post 1914, Dunnstral wrote:Who would Bell have picked as a safer option as mafia?
Lukewarm I would think.
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Post Post #1919 (isolation #238) » Fri Apr 22, 2022 4:09 pm

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We’re really far out there with hypothetical Bell scum tho. There are so many points In the game I would have tripped over myself that it’s practically besides the point.
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Post Post #1920 (isolation #239) » Fri Apr 22, 2022 4:13 pm

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In post 1909, Enchant wrote:I sleep.

Just in a case i just being sour, like you even listen to me or anyone after death, so i don't care.

Go give townreads to Dunn for casing town and watch he decimating you like nothing.
It’s pointless for me to say this. But this pinged.
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Post Post #1922 (isolation #240) » Fri Apr 22, 2022 4:29 pm

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Post Post #1924 (isolation #241) » Fri Apr 22, 2022 4:34 pm

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Um. I’m not partners with anyone.
This is why discussing teams is silly.
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Post Post #1926 (isolation #242) » Fri Apr 22, 2022 4:41 pm

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Nevermind, you sound relatively level headed, I doubt you meant what I initially thought you meant.
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Post Post #1935 (isolation #243) » Fri Apr 22, 2022 5:05 pm

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In post 1929, Ginngie wrote:Btw it would help me out immensely if you could explain why you choose myko over other people you were considering. I know you said you thought scum were between myko and enchant, but was there more to it than just that.
Peer pressure. I felt stung by cephrir, I got fed up with enchant’s playstyle in a moment of annoyance. I did not think dunk’s case was bad. I feel like there are slightl differences in how enchant is standoffish as scum in comparison to town them. I wanted to make a choice that would increase game clarity rather than possibly diminish it. By getting rid of players that are difficult to read in a less complex environment. It’s clear myko and I probably aren’t going to get along, which I mentioned somewhere. But meh, worth it and I can always leave if I think they’re scum. I don’t know them well so there’s a risk of them rejecting me yeah. But based on their presentation they come off as a little haughty but i don’t really think they’d be inconsistent by making a play that lands themselves in opposition to the entire town, well until recently when certain players starting voicing suspicion. Though I’m not sure how fire or luke would have changed their mind. Since I’m posting fairly consistently and whatever posts they liked they’d probably circle if either/both are town and there’s not much point in them flipping on me much when I’m actually town and lose credit by going on a reversal. If they wanna go sage route.
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Post Post #1939 (isolation #244) » Fri Apr 22, 2022 5:10 pm

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I actually tend to think myko’s approach/attitude is townie but activity plays a lot into my reads and they’ve been inconsistent in a way that makes it murky. I’ve already mentioned some of the confusion I’ve had with myko’s game/game plan.

I don’t see scum motivation in their current positioning but I also, I mean they’ve talked about their passion in learning about players in that sort of simplistic way someone selling a part of themselves by talking about something they like or come off as passionate about, but they kind of exposition themselves instead of showing it or revealing that passion more clearly in the game in a moment of lost self-control.
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Post Post #1940 (isolation #245) » Fri Apr 22, 2022 5:12 pm

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I’m posting from my phone and my grammar has grammar issues, if you have any respect for order or other people, a snarky response is not undeserved. Even if it was not aimed at me.
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Post Post #1944 (isolation #246) » Fri Apr 22, 2022 5:17 pm

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Basically, I went with a low risk/pairing rather than try to be a hero. Who solved the game while all the dumdums stood in awe of my brilliance. ESP. Cause I’m not that bright. And I don’t want the stress of dealing with backlash if I was wrong. I mean besides just having a null- to scum read, read on enchant.
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Post Post #1948 (isolation #247) » Fri Apr 22, 2022 5:25 pm

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I’m pretty sure I’ve explained both of those reads and the reasons haven’t changed much since then. Red keeps making townie noises, their perspective seems to show a desire to sort and a level of anxiety about who is and isn’t scum. Red keeps posting out of nowhere in the absolute darkest of night.

Cephrir: they’re good scum, they’ve…largely interpreted my characterization of them as a personal/play style attack. It reads as a smear campaign. But I’m too afraid to say it while possibly being wrong. Because that might actually piss them off and I don’t want to piss off people. I don’t see extrodinary posting from them. I see them posting relatable statements and being nice to those that are nice to them.
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Post Post #1955 (isolation #248) » Fri Apr 22, 2022 5:30 pm

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In post 1945, Ginngie wrote:That's the longest form of a yes I've seen so far.

I'm assuming you sensed my next question that, if those reads were true, why not pair with Fire, a townread, to elimination Ceph, a scumread?
Pretty sure I already posted that fire and Luke pushing at me for suggesting it turned me off that road.
I thought I was pretty blatantly just going around pressuring people to sort them though. And I’m pretty sure I even out right said it once or twice. it was cephrir’s turn to get pushed.
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Post Post #1957 (isolation #249) » Fri Apr 22, 2022 5:33 pm

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I was secretly miffed they didn’t let it breath to see how they’d respond. But meh, I do that too half the time. I only sometimes have self-discipline and left town reads swim on their own. Not to mention I don’t think it effected cephrir’s approach much. It might have been interesting to see cephrir’s response if they both started pressuring him too. But…now I’m just filling out words for words sake.

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Post Post #1960 (isolation #250) » Fri Apr 22, 2022 5:37 pm

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No, because I’m not the one misreading them.
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Post Post #1961 (isolation #251) » Fri Apr 22, 2022 5:38 pm

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Also, the novelty of the correct read on ceph scum like two games ago, already wore off.
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Post Post #1963 (isolation #252) » Fri Apr 22, 2022 5:39 pm

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And I didn’t feel bad then either because, his fiancé misread him.
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Post Post #1965 (isolation #253) » Fri Apr 22, 2022 5:41 pm

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I’m really not sure how anyone can be scum reading me at this point. I should probably stop thinking that.
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Post Post #1967 (isolation #254) » Fri Apr 22, 2022 5:49 pm

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No Luke wanted me to pair with them. I didn’t because this mala is trying and I can’t really understand them this game. It’s fizzy. They seem more comfortable, but it kind of feels like they’re making attempts to buddy up to people by saying relatable things, but then they do these confident reads.

My experience with mala is all over the place due to their hectic life stuff. I can never tell when they’re not trying because they’re scum and when they’re not trying because they’re town and busy. And I’m pretty sure that’s unfair anyway.

I just see them missing Aggro here, but making it up with a sort of intimacy that I can’t determine if it’s confidence or informed/positioning.

I’m confused there. Pretty much.
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Post Post #1968 (isolation #255) » Fri Apr 22, 2022 5:52 pm

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They’ve been responsive though. So. Eh. Maybe I’ll eventually figure it out.
Or not.
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Post Post #2101 (isolation #256) » Sat Apr 23, 2022 7:03 am

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I'm sulking that my miselimination streak continues.
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Post Post #2102 (isolation #257) » Sat Apr 23, 2022 7:05 am

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I used to be pleasantly average at mafia.
What happened.
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Post Post #2103 (isolation #258) » Sat Apr 23, 2022 7:06 am

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VOTE: Datasi
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Post Post #2106 (isolation #259) » Sat Apr 23, 2022 7:20 am

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My short philosophical discourse on dance games is that neighborhoods are where you go to pocket people. But that loudly announcing that neighborhoods are bad repeatedly, unless you're actively trying to force people to post outside of them is kind of scummy.
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Post Post #2109 (isolation #260) » Sat Apr 23, 2022 7:22 am

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Sure, their claim of being busy is true an where they choose to dedicate their time might reveal their alignment.
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Post Post #2111 (isolation #261) » Sat Apr 23, 2022 7:25 am

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I haven't a clue what you would get from numbers with 0 context, there's no data set analysis for neighborhoods, so there's nothing really solid to go off there beyond our own assumptions. But that's pretty much true of 98% of mafia.
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Post Post #2113 (isolation #262) » Sat Apr 23, 2022 7:26 am

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Why didn't you post in your dance thread @Luke.
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Post Post #2117 (isolation #263) » Sat Apr 23, 2022 7:30 am

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Yeah.
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Post Post #2120 (isolation #264) » Sat Apr 23, 2022 7:36 am

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I would be happy to discuss the ins and outs of PT discussion. You're being reductionist though. In your own way. But I'm guilty of not qualifying my statement with "I think given what I know about how people operate, it favors mafia"
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Post Post #2123 (isolation #265) » Sat Apr 23, 2022 7:43 am

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Anyone know Ginggie well enough to say whether they post like it's a newbie game when we're not in the newbie games?
They keep expanding their posts to explain their opinions. It's sort of like fun fact dropping on how Ginggie sees the game of mafia at the end.

Sort of like if I put a quote of a famous person at the end of every post I made.
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Post Post #2124 (isolation #266) » Sat Apr 23, 2022 7:45 am

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I understand Ginngie that, 2122 is more about your world view and what you think is right and wrong, but I personally don't feel anything when someone swears as long as it avoids:
Sexism or racism or not done with the intent to hurt another's feelings.
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Post Post #2127 (isolation #267) » Sat Apr 23, 2022 7:55 am

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Sure, Andante, but does scum you work well under pressure?
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Post Post #2130 (isolation #268) » Sat Apr 23, 2022 8:01 am

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Don't tell me you don't know.
You know what your own scum game is like.
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Post Post #2135 (isolation #269) » Sat Apr 23, 2022 8:04 am

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Sure, but you can't change it right now because your posts have already been made. I'm asking if you play well as scum under pressure in a way that town you does not.
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Post Post #2136 (isolation #270) » Sat Apr 23, 2022 8:07 am

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In post 2131, Lukewarm wrote:Bell and Cephrir, remember when you said that Myko was town for pairing with Enchant because he was planning to leave with Enchant. Does the fact that he actually transitioned to a town read on him, and was not actually going to leave with Enchant influence that at all?
Did he transition to a town read on him after being paired up and was planning to kill them initially?
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Post Post #2142 (isolation #271) » Sat Apr 23, 2022 8:13 am

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In post 2137, Andante wrote:as scum I'm like never under pressure, last dance game I was scum!! uhhh I don't remember what I did though, I was barely here and there were a million posts... uhh I tried to 1v1 nancy to spam the thread!! but yeah, I'm like never under pressure as scum?? idk what you're going at bell
you spent the first 20 posts talking about how you were under pressure and suspected by 3 other players.
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Post Post #2146 (isolation #272) » Sat Apr 23, 2022 8:20 am

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It would be sort of interesting to see if I could list the exact specific reasons I was town reading someone and have them get debunked.

It alters my read on them yes, but I'm not sure I can reach a conclusion from that insight. I thought Myko would have contempt for enchant based on their presentation, so when they offered to dance and they did not start with announcing they ere town reading them, I took it as either a moment of desperation or someone going in with a plan. What were their reasons for pairing with enchant?
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Post Post #2147 (isolation #273) » Sat Apr 23, 2022 8:23 am

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In post 2145, Andante wrote:
In post 2142, Bell wrote:
In post 2137, Andante wrote:as scum I'm like never under pressure, last dance game I was scum!! uhhh I don't remember what I did though, I was barely here and there were a million posts... uhh I tried to 1v1 nancy to spam the thread!! but yeah, I'm like never under pressure as scum?? idk what you're going at bell
you spent the first 20 posts talking about how you were under pressure and suspected by 3 other players.
with a "lol who cares" attitude, so I don't get the point?? that also was not pressure. pressure is people voting you
That came in the net few posts and there's a parallel with how you approach my suspicion of you in that you also acted nonchalant in an exaggerated manner in both games. It would be difficult not to see it as a bluff. Since the posts are ust designed to say "I don't care" and don't say anything else.
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Post Post #2150 (isolation #274) » Sat Apr 23, 2022 8:27 am

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I don't really understand how you see yourself, I sort of just assume you're being fake and that you don't go around in rl acting how you act here. So I'm trying to understand you and how you play with that presentation, Your motivations and how you spend your time in games.
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Post Post #2151 (isolation #275) » Sat Apr 23, 2022 8:28 am

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In post 2149, Andante wrote:WAIT... OTHER THAN THAT NIGHT I FREAKED OUT... That was "I'm gonna openwolf as town cause I don't care about this right now"
If you didn't care about this you wouldn't post at all and do something you cared about. :(
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Post Post #2157 (isolation #276) » Sat Apr 23, 2022 8:34 am

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Hmm.
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Post Post #2160 (isolation #277) » Sat Apr 23, 2022 8:38 am

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In post 2153, Andante wrote:I'm literally not being fake?? My top SRs are myko/Luke/Datisi right now..
ama
lets go, what do you want to know? I'm here for a good time, and that's always plan A. and while having a good time, I make reads and that is that, not my fault my reads change a lot...
Oh shit. You gave me permission.
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Post Post #2162 (isolation #278) » Sat Apr 23, 2022 8:41 am

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Okay but what is a good time to you? What parts of mafia do you enjoy the most? Which parts make you happiest and which parts make you saddest?
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Post Post #2170 (isolation #279) » Sat Apr 23, 2022 8:49 am

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In post 2166, Andante wrote:
In post 2162, Bell wrote:Okay but what is a good time to you? What parts of mafia do you enjoy the most? Which parts make you happiest and which parts make you saddest?
LOL that is... a large question.. like, just really depends, like saddest part is waking up to everyone yelling at me that I'm throwing when I was just trying my best... most parts are happy though
I need the answer to the other one more. Given my alignment this game.
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Post Post #2173 (isolation #280) » Sat Apr 23, 2022 9:17 am

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VOTE: Datasi
VOTE: Andante
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Post Post #2175 (isolation #281) » Sat Apr 23, 2022 9:58 am

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It’s just another way pointing out who I suspect of being mafia.
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Post Post #2189 (isolation #282) » Sat Apr 23, 2022 2:24 pm

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In post 2184, Malakittens wrote:so wait why is ginnie and andante having the most votes??
I just think Andante is scum this game tbh.
Datisi made a case but I didn’t even read it.
I don’t know why Luke is voting them. Also because I didn’t read it.
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Post Post #2192 (isolation #283) » Sat Apr 23, 2022 2:40 pm

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In post 1787, Datisi wrote:that being the first post i see when i open this game is probably a great sign

hi i'm tired and the idea of catching up on however many pages i need to catch up on is making me uneasy and not wanna even try, can someone point me somewhere where i could/should start
:shifty:
Confirmation bias still going strong in Bell-land.
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Post Post #2193 (isolation #284) » Sat Apr 23, 2022 2:42 pm

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Yep, I just outright misread it.
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Post Post #2198 (isolation #285) » Sat Apr 23, 2022 3:08 pm

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Pair yeah
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Post Post #2216 (isolation #286) » Sun Apr 24, 2022 4:39 am

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VOTE: Datisi
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Post Post #2224 (isolation #287) » Sun Apr 24, 2022 5:27 am

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Wait so are you leaving the dance
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Post Post #2226 (isolation #288) » Sun Apr 24, 2022 5:31 am

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Makes sense.
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Post Post #2230 (isolation #289) » Sun Apr 24, 2022 5:42 am

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Mostly I just have objections because I feel like you’re obvtown Luke.
But I got of got that you were pretty fed up with all the pressure being put your way and you tend to become impulsive when that happens.
I think it’s something you should work on tbh, because I think it’s a weakness.
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Post Post #2231 (isolation #290) » Sun Apr 24, 2022 5:43 am

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I guess I’d just like to hear how confident you are in your scum reads.
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Post Post #2233 (isolation #291) » Sun Apr 24, 2022 5:47 am

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Also, the reason I didn’t say anything was because my confidence is low. Well, actually maybe I did, but if I ever endorsed you as town this game in a meaningful way, I forgot it.
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Post Post #2235 (isolation #292) » Sun Apr 24, 2022 5:58 am

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Got it. I hope you’re right on Mala.
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Post Post #2247 (isolation #293) » Sun Apr 24, 2022 8:16 am

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I did not realize the scum team got additional NKs. :(
Thought they only got one.
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Post Post #2248 (isolation #294) » Sun Apr 24, 2022 8:19 am

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I assume because i’m getting shot,
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Post Post #2249 (isolation #295) » Sun Apr 24, 2022 8:25 am

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Lol, I should’ve fuckin’ paired with lukewarm.
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Post Post #2252 (isolation #296) » Sun Apr 24, 2022 8:38 am

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In post 1906, Bell wrote:
In post 1904, Malakittens wrote:
In post 1902, Bell wrote:But I find it unlikely Myko and Enchant are both scum. So here we are.
I think Enchant is very likely scum & Myko is null-leaning town.
Thanks for the affirmation before reality cruelly slaps it away.
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Post Post #2254 (isolation #297) » Sun Apr 24, 2022 8:41 am

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Mala’s pretty good at antispew. They’re getting caught a lot lately but their ability to cover their tracks is good.
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Post Post #2258 (isolation #298) » Sun Apr 24, 2022 9:42 am

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Any idea who those two might be?
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Post Post #2259 (isolation #299) » Sun Apr 24, 2022 10:40 am

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In post 2213, Cephrir wrote:
In post 2204, Malakittens wrote:That's fine. I'm used to being the oddball out.
is that fine

shouldn't you be worried about it
Hmm.
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Post Post #2267 (isolation #300) » Mon Apr 25, 2022 2:24 am

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I’d be surprised if ginggie-scum made that post.
Still think andante and datisi are scum.
I feel datisi is just kinda wooden.
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Post Post #2268 (isolation #301) » Mon Apr 25, 2022 3:14 am

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I think myko is town, but I’m not in love with it. So do what you want there.
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Post Post #2269 (isolation #302) » Mon Apr 25, 2022 3:17 am

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In post 2263, Dunnstral wrote:At the start of my neighborhood after the end of day 1 I say that I want to vote Andante, Enchant, and Malakittens.

Datisi says they also suspect Andante and ask about my read Enchant.
Ew. Would datisi make such an obvious mistake though?
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Post Post #2270 (isolation #303) » Mon Apr 25, 2022 3:22 am

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…he totally would lol.
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Post Post #2274 (isolation #304) » Mon Apr 25, 2022 4:38 am

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In post 2271, Andante wrote:
In post 2267, Bell wrote:I’d be surprised if ginggie-scum made that post.
Still think andante and datisi are scum.
I feel datisi is just kinda wooden.
You think I'm scum with datisi? lol just get him first then

VOTE: Datisi
I don’t make team guesses. There’s little to associate you with.
I just think one of or both of you are scumz
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Post Post #2283 (isolation #305) » Mon Apr 25, 2022 8:46 am

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Lol.
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Post Post #2284 (isolation #306) » Mon Apr 25, 2022 8:49 am

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This player list is very good, but I can’t imagine what went through their minds for that choice.
Though yes, I immediately thought of cephrir and their “let’s just bluff that everything is fine”
Nk stuff. Then they just said it in thread. But i’m not really clear who *else* makes that choice.
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Post Post #2285 (isolation #307) » Mon Apr 25, 2022 8:51 am

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VOTE: Datisi
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Post Post #2292 (isolation #308) » Mon Apr 25, 2022 9:43 am

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If we’re looking for the scum pair that nobody suspects that’d be fire/Cephrir right now. They’re sitting the prettiest.
But like, the sheer idea of a ceph/fire pair both being scum isn’t even worth considering. The probability is 0.
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Post Post #2380 (isolation #309) » Tue Apr 26, 2022 2:08 am

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Had dream,
Ginggie town. You're welcome.
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Post Post #2386 (isolation #310) » Tue Apr 26, 2022 4:25 am

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See, I said this and everyone ignored me.
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Post Post #2387 (isolation #311) » Tue Apr 26, 2022 4:26 am

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Even maybe scum Andante sees it.
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Post Post #2476 (isolation #312) » Tue Apr 26, 2022 10:56 am

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In post 2474, Andante wrote:Also Ginngie I’ll respond to you here instead of PT cause I’m annoyed, you keep saying we’re TT and that you still want to leave all cause you don’t “trust us” like seriously… if you’re not actually going to play, just leave then, cause I’m sick of all this talk about “oh must leave!!” and like no solving… there’s no reason to be convinced TT us HAS TO LEAVE… it’s seriously annoying Ginngie
This isn’t really a good response to Ginggie’s AtE post. In which they announce they’ve been aTe’d by you.
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Post Post #2480 (isolation #313) » Tue Apr 26, 2022 12:06 pm

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Yes, when things don’t add up I poke at them until they do.I’m glad Andante is not a mean dog. I am not glad that they didn’t acknowledge it besides that you agreed with them about one read of theirs. But ultimately, I’m still thinking.
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Post Post #2481 (isolation #314) » Tue Apr 26, 2022 12:27 pm

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I guess it all depends at what I look at/focus on.
I think the lack of engagement and evasiveness is + scum.
I think their outward engagement and their constant refocusing of their reads. +town.

I just dunno which is right here, they’ve actually been a little townier the last few pages.
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Post Post #2482 (isolation #315) » Tue Apr 26, 2022 12:28 pm

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I really dunno what to say about datisi. They feel very obv scum to me.
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Post Post #2543 (isolation #316) » Wed Apr 27, 2022 2:49 am

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It’s low key sad that nobody thinks the reason I didn’t get shot was because I can’t shoot myself. But honestly, I can’t complain.
…pretty sure this is a complaint.
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Post Post #2551 (isolation #317) » Wed Apr 27, 2022 3:29 am

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In post 2548, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 2543, Bell wrote:It’s low key sad that nobody thinks the reason I didn’t get shot was because I can’t shoot myself. But honestly, I can’t complain.
…pretty sure this is a complaint.
Why would you want to shoot yourself as town?
I love you sometimes.
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Post Post #2569 (isolation #318) » Thu Apr 28, 2022 2:16 am

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In post 2557, Andante wrote:I want yall's reads on Ginngie before I do end up leaving though.

Ginngie's whole "I'm leaving in this countdown" thing was never serious, it was to "get reads"
Already gave my reads.
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Post Post #2570 (isolation #319) » Thu Apr 28, 2022 2:18 am

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In post 2567, Cephrir wrote:it unnerves me a bit that she watched me agree with her tabout everything to pocket her as scum in control and yet she's still scumreading me for doing the complete opposite of that
…why would this unnerve you? it’s been pretty well documented that Andante is an omguser.
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Post Post #2572 (isolation #320) » Thu Apr 28, 2022 2:26 am

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Yes
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Post Post #2573 (isolation #321) » Thu Apr 28, 2022 2:26 am

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If you’re actually town please refrain from leaving.
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Post Post #2574 (isolation #322) » Thu Apr 28, 2022 2:26 am

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Unless I’m wrong, in which case ignore me.
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Post Post #2575 (isolation #323) » Thu Apr 28, 2022 2:28 am

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In post 2554, Ginngie wrote:We should pause the game until they come in and answer that question.
I know it’s lame but I have to go to work. Can someone go and see if prism does those sorts of read lists as town? Where they’re kind of broken down further than usual?
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Post Post #2583 (isolation #324) » Thu Apr 28, 2022 1:49 pm

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Um
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Post Post #2607 (isolation #325) » Thu Apr 28, 2022 4:51 pm

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Rip datisi.
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Post Post #2608 (isolation #326) » Thu Apr 28, 2022 4:51 pm

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One more to go.
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Post Post #2609 (isolation #327) » Thu Apr 28, 2022 5:02 pm

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Run, quickly, hero, wooden, idol.
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Post Post #2610 (isolation #328) » Thu Apr 28, 2022 5:07 pm

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I like this song, but uh. Love is not my strong suit and I don’t really like songs about love. I can’t really relate to them lol.
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Post Post #2611 (isolation #329) » Thu Apr 28, 2022 5:15 pm

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I'm not really sure who the last scum is.
I pretty much agree with:

Fire, Ginggie, Bell town.
And then there's the rest. Unfortunate.
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Post Post #2627 (isolation #330) » Fri Apr 29, 2022 1:58 am

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Oi, I was annoyed with you last day phase. But I’m not longer annoyed with you. You’ve been trying to soothe my annoyance all game ever since.
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Post Post #2629 (isolation #331) » Fri Apr 29, 2022 1:59 am

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Sorry, I meant annoyed with you during initial dance pairings.
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Post Post #2631 (isolation #332) » Fri Apr 29, 2022 2:02 am

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Heh. No. I pointed out where in posts I made during that time.
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Post Post #2632 (isolation #333) » Fri Apr 29, 2022 2:17 am

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If I don't die I'll review the game.
Currently: Ceph -> Myko -> Andante
But please don't quote me.
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Post Post #2634 (isolation #334) » Fri Apr 29, 2022 2:34 am

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I agree. Ginggie isn't scum.
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Post Post #2636 (isolation #335) » Fri Apr 29, 2022 2:48 am

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There’s always at least one. Got’em.
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Post Post #2638 (isolation #336) » Fri Apr 29, 2022 2:52 am

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Dw, if you didn’t cephrir would’ve. And if Dunn wasn’t dead he would’ve. And if lukewarm wasn’t dead they *might’ve*
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Post Post #2640 (isolation #337) » Fri Apr 29, 2022 6:34 am

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Got it. Take care Andante.
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Post Post #2649 (isolation #338) » Fri Apr 29, 2022 8:29 am

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In post 2647, mykonian wrote:I would but only if you pair with me after.

Bell keeps stepping on my toes.
I never claimed I could dance.
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Post Post #2650 (isolation #339) » Fri Apr 29, 2022 9:39 am

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Hmm. I skimmed datisi’s posts and nothing is really screaming scum partner.
Some questions asking about why people think cephrir is town might be slightly partner indicative. But their tone and approach to them doesn’t feel unusual.
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Post Post #2652 (isolation #340) » Fri Apr 29, 2022 9:47 am

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I’m just happy that I read datisi correctly so I’m no longer a jerk for ignoring Lukewarm’s death post.
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Post Post #2653 (isolation #341) » Fri Apr 29, 2022 9:50 am

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Anyone else want to take a crack at the associatives on Datisi?/mala?
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Post Post #2655 (isolation #342) » Fri Apr 29, 2022 9:56 am

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Saw that coming a mile away.
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Post Post #2657 (isolation #343) » Fri Apr 29, 2022 10:02 am

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Yeah, but compare datisi’s tip-toeing to his tip-toeing around you and cephrir.
He barely interacts with either of you comparatively to andante.
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Post Post #2661 (isolation #344) » Fri Apr 29, 2022 10:31 am

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That sounds like reductionism to me Fire.
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Post Post #2664 (isolation #345) » Fri Apr 29, 2022 10:37 am

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I don’t think we’re talking about who Datisi interacted with and why that makes them scum.
We look at whatever people look for in associatives, usually motive, discrepancy between word an action, unusual conversations that don’t make sense in retrospect. Etc.
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Post Post #2666 (isolation #346) » Fri Apr 29, 2022 10:55 am

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I already did and I didn’t come up with much. Maybe I’ll find something on second look. But none of it feels obvious to me. Like I said already.
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Post Post #2686 (isolation #347) » Fri Apr 29, 2022 4:32 pm

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I’m very confused.
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Post Post #2687 (isolation #348) » Fri Apr 29, 2022 4:33 pm

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This literally just makes it between myko and cephrir.
And we have two eliminations left. So like.
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Post Post #2690 (isolation #349) » Fri Apr 29, 2022 4:40 pm

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Externally I am a sea of calm and I have no paranoia whatsoever. If only because you both tried your best and I have actually read some of you two’s walls. So. Maybe.
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Post Post #2692 (isolation #350) » Fri Apr 29, 2022 4:42 pm

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I’m not really worried. As both myko and Cephrir have noted I’m kind of a stubborn pain in the ass.
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Post Post #2694 (isolation #351) » Fri Apr 29, 2022 4:46 pm

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My vote is on cephrir scum, but I can see polite myko scum.
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Post Post #2698 (isolation #352) » Fri Apr 29, 2022 4:50 pm

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Sounds good to me. We’ve all reviewed what we could of the associations.
Unless you guys wanna watch a 1v1 with ceph and Myko.
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Post Post #2699 (isolation #353) » Fri Apr 29, 2022 4:50 pm

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I accept
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Post Post #2704 (isolation #354) » Fri Apr 29, 2022 4:55 pm

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I fuckin called it.
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Post Post #2706 (isolation #355) » Fri Apr 29, 2022 4:56 pm

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*fist pump*
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Post Post #2707 (isolation #356) » Fri Apr 29, 2022 4:56 pm

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Go ahead.lol leave.
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Post Post #2713 (isolation #357) » Fri Apr 29, 2022 5:05 pm

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VOTE: Cephrir
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Post Post #2717 (isolation #358) » Fri Apr 29, 2022 5:07 pm

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Making sure but there’s no mechanical difference between voting cephrir out and fire leaving right?
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Post Post #2719 (isolation #359) » Fri Apr 29, 2022 5:09 pm

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Fire do you need some time alone.
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Post Post #2721 (isolation #360) » Fri Apr 29, 2022 5:10 pm

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Actually I can hammer him if you want.
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Post Post #2722 (isolation #361) » Fri Apr 29, 2022 5:10 pm

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UNVOTE:
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Post Post #2723 (isolation #362) » Fri Apr 29, 2022 5:11 pm

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I insist actually. *licks lip*
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Post Post #2726 (isolation #363) » Fri Apr 29, 2022 5:12 pm

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Why don’t we do it….
Together? :oops:
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Post Post #2728 (isolation #364) » Fri Apr 29, 2022 5:14 pm

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Fire, have you gathered yourself?
We can do a triple timed hammer.
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Post Post #2730 (isolation #365) » Fri Apr 29, 2022 5:15 pm

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Sure.
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Post Post #2731 (isolation #366) » Fri Apr 29, 2022 5:15 pm

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Cephrir can join too.
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Post Post #2740 (isolation #367) » Fri Apr 29, 2022 5:20 pm

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VOTE: Cephrir

:nerd:
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Post Post #2742 (isolation #368) » Fri Apr 29, 2022 5:22 pm

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Was I scum
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Post Post #2744 (isolation #369) » Fri Apr 29, 2022 5:22 pm

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was I the baddies all along
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Post Post #2749 (isolation #370) » Fri Apr 29, 2022 5:28 pm

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Huh?
No, I’m town. We got this.
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Post Post #2765 (isolation #371) » Fri Apr 29, 2022 5:54 pm

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Gg. I feel really bad for some reason.
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Post Post #2768 (isolation #372) » Fri Apr 29, 2022 6:00 pm

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It’s hard being so popular.
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Post Post #2769 (isolation #373) » Fri Apr 29, 2022 6:02 pm

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I hope you feel better Cephrir. *hugs*
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Post Post #2785 (isolation #374) » Sat Apr 30, 2022 10:01 am

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Post Post #2786 (isolation #375) » Sat Apr 30, 2022 10:02 am

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Also the song pookie played when Myko died should have been posted at the end or something. It fit really well with the theme.
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Post Post #2787 (isolation #376) » Sun May 01, 2022 2:02 pm

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Thank you for modding the game Pooky.
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