In post 437, humaneatingmonkey wrote:the pushes are bad because they would have known you better and recognize that your play is actually from your town play, right?
I have trouble with they’re refusal to re-evaluate, yes.
STD, how are my reactions any different here than in that dance game?
And clearly nothing remotely similar to FFIV - which Dwlee was also in?
And NM, where did I demonstrate even an iota of conviction in that Jingle game where I hydra’d with Koba?
~N
I don't care about meta sorry
In post 500, Save The Dragons wrote:I believe in meta when it makes my point. I don't believe it when it doesn't.
In post 500, Save The Dragons wrote:I believe in meta when it makes my point. I don't believe it when it doesn't.
This was a joke
In post 519, Save The Dragons wrote:I believe in some meta adjacent things but not meta itself. Like when people say "she's like this as town" maybe I agree.
When people say "In x game I was like this here's a link here's a quote" maybe I don't care
In post 437, humaneatingmonkey wrote:the pushes are bad because they would have known you better and recognize that your play is actually from your town play, right?
I have trouble with they’re refusal to re-evaluate, yes.
STD, how are my reactions any different here than in that dance game?
And clearly nothing remotely similar to FFIV - which Dwlee was also in?
And NM, where did I demonstrate even an iota of conviction in that Jingle game where I hydra’d with Koba?
~N
Town!you would have either already answered this or at least have given some indication wrt looking into it.
In post 437, humaneatingmonkey wrote:the pushes are bad because they would have known you better and recognize that your play is actually from your town play, right?
I have trouble with they’re refusal to re-evaluate, yes.
STD, how are my reactions any different here than in that dance game?
And clearly nothing remotely similar to FFIV - which Dwlee was also in?
And NM, where did I demonstrate even an iota of conviction in that Jingle game where I hydra’d with Koba?
~N
Town!you would have either already answered this or at least have given some indication wrt looking into it.
NM has otoh been consistent about his rejection of meta.
Oh he did in our hydra pt but not on discord. Rl stuff or something but I mainly wanted to play this game because it allowed hydras, so I don’t know what I’m going to do yet. :/
In post 531, Nancy Sinatra wrote:First, I’m over reacting, then some bs about a popcorn emoji, now I’m scum cftwr, so wtf is it or will you pull something new out of your ass?
it's funny that somehow she's not capable of being scum for multiple reasons
In post 726, Save The Dragons wrote:flea's post that i'm on the fence doesn't make sense if i have 2 strong reads according to faer. but i also have felt that flea is town even though i joked about flea being scum, i don't think that's accurate and i wasn't waffling on my flea read. so that's 3 reads that haven't really changed so i'm not really sure why it's funny to call me on the fence when i'm clearly not
I'm tired of these dragons on that motherfucking fence...
Must not be me I think I'm pretty clear about my reads
Sticking a pin in this.
Because your reads are everywhere and seemingly change in the flip of a coin.
Bar 2. Hem and nancy
You seem set on HEM town and Nancy scum. Everything else is literally coin flip and you've just tried to explain that away with your read on me
My issue is I really have a lot of trouble believing his sr on me is genuine. Because he hasn’t once during the entire game attempted to sort but neither has Dwlee.
In post 736, Save The Dragons wrote:Um no. My read on you was always town. My read on kitty was always scummy. If anything my read on Nancy has wavered but youre not arguing that for some reason.
In post 772, humaneatingmonkey wrote:i have decided what side i want to be on. i want to yeet std and see if my instincts are wrong on that one. and then, if town, it will be immediately clear that this day 1 majority block is a dud. if scum, then we can study the push against nancy in greater detail and see who's positioned weirdly there.
nothing personnel kid
OIC, I’m still wondering why he voted Kitty and me 3 minutes apart. I’m also really really suss of Dwlee after that post telling STD to “get me”, because it doesn’t look like a buddy post.
Like, I think it’s highly likely one of them is scum but not both.
I think one of them probably is but not both based on Dwlee’s most recent post. Buddies don’t ususually communicate that way.
I still lean Kitty!town based on the reasons I said earlier but I’ve seen that done. It’s a common scum ploy to have one scum hard defend a townie and the other one hardpushes them. So if one scum in STD/Dwlee, then it makes no sense if Dwlee/STD SvS to tell him to “get” me because that would be scum suicide after my flip for whichever one remained.
So, I tl Kitty in isolation iow.
I could also see STD if scum being coached because why the sudden 180 in playstyle? Something definitely happened between today and yesterday but what?
In post 769, Nancy Sinatra wrote:@Flea, @Gamma, do you think it’s possible I’m being pocketed? After WH, I’m so paranoid about once again getting shitpushed.
Since you didn't @ me, I assume that you think I could be pocketing you.
You seem relatively townie but I haven’t forgotten Newbie. I don’t even know if it’s even a thing but I’m extremely confident that Flea and Gamma aren’t.
In post 769, Nancy Sinatra wrote:@Flea, @Gamma, do you think it’s possible I’m being pocketed? After WH, I’m so paranoid about once again getting shitpushed.
what is WH?
MU Witchhunt. Scum tried to drive a miselim on me by accusing me of using “manipulative AtE” and you can see in that post I quoted, claiming like STD/Dwlee are here, that I’m scum cftwr. I just don’t want to rule anything out because either/both could be possible.
Sinatra vs NM is TvT. Can I get the two of you to back off for a moment and reset please?
being real, I think Roden is right about this. NM feels pretty legit, but I think the pressure on Nancy from some of the other slots feels rather disingenuous. StD/Dwlee is where my suspicions primarily lie regarding this.
This is bad when clearly HEM/STD/Me are all sniffing a similar vibe here. I only don't include NM because his reasoning is more opaque. But regardless, that both HEM and STD are melding with what I've said, means either we are all scum, or that the thought process behind finding Nancy scummy is genuine
Idk what I think of this but it pings me that they auto assume everyone who’s sr me defacto has town intent.
In post 376, Flea The Magician wrote:I disagree, because I'm not seeing caught nancy in the slightest. I'm seeing the spicy bean I know and love doing what she does best, calling out BS reads.
Show me where she's caught for the wrong reason? And then show me how your mindset is town in that catch. Cause honestly, CFTWR is easily used by scum on panicked town too.
Dwlee like STD has meta on me so them totally refusing to even consider their read on me is wrong bugs me.
In post 769, Nancy Sinatra wrote:@Flea, @Gamma, do you think it’s possible I’m being pocketed? After WH, I’m so paranoid about once again getting shitpushed.
Since you didn't @ me, I assume that you think I could be pocketing you.
You seem relatively townie but I haven’t forgotten Newbie. I don’t even know if it’s even a thing but I’m extremely confident that Flea and Gamma aren’t.
Oh. Fair I guess, idk what I can say to ease that fear though. Hopefully you'll be able to read me more confidently as the game goes on.
You do seem more nuanced here than in that game and you’re also not over the top wking me like you were in that game.
I’m still suss on you because before I ever tunnelled you, you seemed far more interested in finding any bs reason to sr me, rather than consider you might be wrong and my main reason for that tunnel was when I asked you that meta question, you refused to even think about it. That said to me, you really have no interest in sorting me. Now you say you were high, so is that changed today?
In post 437, humaneatingmonkey wrote:the pushes are bad because they would have known you better and recognize that your play is actually from your town play, right?
I have trouble with they’re refusal to re-evaluate, yes.
STD, how are my reactions any different here than in that dance game?
And clearly nothing remotely similar to FFIV - which Dwlee was also in?
And NM, where did I demonstrate even an iota of conviction in that Jingle game where I hydra’d with Koba?
~N
So if the reason for your extremely scummy behaviour yesterday, is you were high, can you now answer this?
In post 500, Save The Dragons wrote:I believe in meta when it makes my point. I don't believe it when it doesn't.
This was a joke
In post 519, Save The Dragons wrote:I believe in some meta adjacent things but not meta itself. Like when people say "she's like this as town" maybe I agree.
When people say "In x game I was like this here's a link here's a quote" maybe I don't care
I also don’t understand why you would even sr for that tunnel after you made these posts? Like is it the drugs or are scum?
Sinatra vs NM is TvT. Can I get the two of you to back off for a moment and reset please?
being real, I think Roden is right about this. NM feels pretty legit, but I think the pressure on Nancy from some of the other slots feels rather disingenuous. StD/Dwlee is where my suspicions primarily lie regarding this.
This is bad when clearly HEM/STD/Me are all sniffing a similar vibe here. I only don't include NM because his reasoning is more opaque. But regardless, that both HEM and STD are melding with what I've said, means either we are all scum, or that the thought process behind finding Nancy scummy is genuine
Idk what I think of this but it pings me that they auto assume everyone who’s sr me defacto has town intent.
That's not what I'm doing
You haven’t even considered the possibility you could be wrong on me and for you to un
hestitatingly push this when you know I react badly to being pushed is extremely suss to me.
In post 437, humaneatingmonkey wrote:the pushes are bad because they would have known you better and recognize that your play is actually from your town play, right?
I have trouble with they’re refusal to re-evaluate, yes.
STD, how are my reactions any different here than in that dance game?
And clearly nothing remotely similar to FFIV - which Dwlee was also in?
And NM, where did I demonstrate even an iota of conviction in that Jingle game where I hydra’d with Koba?
~N
So if the reason for your extremely scummy behaviour yesterday, is you were high, can you now answer this?
In post 500, Save The Dragons wrote:I believe in meta when it makes my point. I don't believe it when it doesn't.
This was a joke
In post 519, Save The Dragons wrote:I believe in some meta adjacent things but not meta itself. Like when people say "she's like this as town" maybe I agree.
When people say "In x game I was like this here's a link here's a quote" maybe I don't care
I also don’t understand why you would even sr for that tunnel after you made these posts? Like is it the drugs or are scum?
I don't know what you are asking
You make it beyond clear you have 0 interest in sorting me, yet you sr me because I didn’t re-evaluate after that?
If someone expresses 0 interest in correctly sorting me and ignores meta - AFTER they used that to push me, how isn’t that scummy?
Meaning especially my initial trs. I also now also lean town on HEM and Roden.
So rn, I think Flea/Gamma/Kitty/HEM/Roden are probably town. Enchant and NM might be as well. FB is a complete null, so that leaves STD/Dwlee, which even if correct means that one of these is wrong.
In post 500, Save The Dragons wrote:I believe in meta when it makes my point. I don't believe it when it doesn't.
This was a joke
In post 519, Save The Dragons wrote:I believe in some meta adjacent things but not meta itself. Like when people say "she's like this as town" maybe I agree.
When people say "In x game I was like this here's a link here's a quote" maybe I don't care
I also don’t understand why you would even sr for that tunnel after you made these posts? Like is it the drugs or are scum?
I don't know what you are asking
You make it beyond clear you have 0 interest in sorting me, yet you sr me because I didn’t re-evaluate after that?
If someone expresses 0 interest in correctly sorting me and ignores meta - AFTER they used that to push me, how isn’t that scummy?
I ignore meta constantly it holds no interest for me
They were flaming obvscum in OMB and are playing 180 degrees differently here.
yeah that's my question, i didn't think kitty showed much enough to give us anything to read on.
Ngl this thought process from HEM on KT feels like an attempt to pivot momentum, but my hold-up on that is the impetus for it feels absent
My gut tells me that Kitty is more likely than not lhf town here. His posts look nuanced and show conviction.
Gth, forget what I said earlier. Rn, it looks to me like an STD/Dwelee + ? team but STD is once again being scummy because there’s no way in hell he still honestly thinks I’m scum at this point. No way in hell.
They were flaming obvscum in OMB and are playing 180 degrees differently here.
yeah that's my question, i didn't think kitty showed much enough to give us anything to read on.
Ngl this thought process from HEM on KT feels like an attempt to pivot momentum, but my hold-up on that is the impetus for it feels absent
My gut tells me that Kitty is more likely than not lhf town here. His posts look nuanced and show conviction.
Gth, forget what I said earlier. Rn, it looks to me like an STD/Dwelee + ? team but STD is once again being scummy because there’s no way in hell he still honestly thinks I’m scum at this point. No way in hell.
See you say that but don't present any reason why I shouldn't be scum reading you
In the dance game it was beyond obvious you were very clearly trying to sort me. You must want me dead very badly because you see Kitty as far less of a threat.
STD knows that this is my towngame at this point but he won’t relent on that because he’s afraid I will solve the game. Maybe I’m wrong on NM but it’s unlikely all 3 scum were on me. One is staying off me.
This feels strange
You’re “not sure” about Nancy but call her your best guess when Kitty seems like a more straightforward suspicion?
ISO STD in that dance game. His initial read on me was wrong but very genuine and he was constantly re-evaluating instead of being obstinate and flippant like he is here.
In post 867, Save The Dragons wrote:Holy cow even if I were scum I don't care about peoples track records you're just making up narratives at this point
I was in that dance game and I saw what you wrote in your PT, so you can stop insulting my intelligence now.
Really???
Let’s put this another way: you say you expect Nancy should re-eval you if she is town. But you also stated you think your wacky playstyle is getting you SR. Why not try and change it up and see what happens? The reason she’s not re-eval you is that you’re not doing anything to change her perception of you.
That’s why it’s so blatantly obvious he’s scared of me, because otherwise he could re-evaluate and look at least townier than last night but he needs me gone, so he can’t.
He knows I caught 2 scum right out of the gate in Pokemon, so it’s understandable he’s scared of me.
the flaw in nancy's meta read is that she's comparing two games where i was playing to day 6 and was greatly invested in being alive and not mislimmed. i also had a special role in FF that i didn't want to get mislimmed with. the fact she's not taking that into account is a little yucky
and that's not to say that i'm just a different person than the person who was playing those games
so that's why meta sucks
You were constantly re-evaluting me in that pt, so I don’t even understand this argument?
In post 888, Save The Dragons wrote:I don't recall being scumread in situation room? Fine whatever you're just right I'm wrong I guess based on my experience of my own games
I will say ktacky has been a significantly low effort player so far
This is why flea is town and Nancy is scum
This just feels icky
While I do think some valid points have been made about KT’s play potentially evolving, to try and turn things against Nancy like this using this assessment of KT’s play, when it’s not really an indictment of his play at all and just an observation, is rather nasty.
Yes, that is possibly what makes him look worse than Dwelee because he just keeps coming up with new bs reasons to sr me instead of just one. Also, his just totally dismissing my pocket question like was also ugh. That’s why I changed my mind back about him and Dwlee not possibly being buddies, so not extremely confident on that but weird he doesn’t even consider it a possibility.
In post 898, Save The Dragons wrote:I'm trying to figure her out but she keeps making narratives and everyone is like "I guess making stuff up is cool"
I already said Nancy hasn’t “made up” anything fmpov, you’re pulling a Principal Skinner rn
You should be doing more than just “responding”, you should be analyzing, synthesizing, and adapting
Not to sound dumb but is that a Simpson’s reference?
std did some spewing. what does everyone feel about that?
Why only do it after Enchant basically threatened to co-hammer with NM? Up until that point he felt adversarial/in anti-spew mode. Ngl it reminds me of what I did in the last RC UPick when Toog threatened me with a daykill (I think I just realized RC used the s-bomb term despite there being discussion on fixing it to remove the sensitive word. One more shitty piece of that game ig)
So what are you and HEM seeing that must have gone clearly over my head?
std did some spewing. what does everyone feel about that?
Why only do it after Enchant basically threatened to co-hammer with NM? Up until that point he felt adversarial/in anti-spew mode. Ngl it reminds me of what I did in the last RC UPick when Toog threatened me with a daykill (I think I just realized RC used the s-bomb term despite there being discussion on fixing it to remove the sensitive word. One more shitty piece of that game ig)
So what are you and HEM seeing that must have gone clearly over my head?
