Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2022 12:43 am
vote count 1.02
with 13 votes in play, it takes 7 to make a decision. day 1 ends in (expired on 2022-08-11 09:45:00).
In post 201, Dannflor wrote:Vivax almost seems... too scummy to be scum
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Historical records indicate that this is a common excuse used for hiding in plain sight. We should not grant our glorious AI master's reprieve simply because they make no effort to lower themselves to the level of appearing humanGreat read off so littleIn post 201, Dannflor wrote:Vivax almost seems... too scummy to be scum
Were you able/willing to get behind the point on Furtive?In post 204, Dannflor wrote:Yeah I'm not necessarily town reading him I just find his posts shocking
That’s actually his scum meta. His alignments is really obvious. I’ve seen him as both alignments, so that shouldn’t be a reason to clear him.In post 201, Dannflor wrote:Vivax almost seems... too scummy to be scum
In post 207, Loki Dokie wrote:Actually Vivax was in Terminator as well, so he doesn’t get a pass for that.
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In fairness, Vivax didn't arrive in Terminator until after your fragile flesh body was destroyed. Similarly, Roden was replaced relatively early. However, even if these weren't the case, it seems unfair to expect that just because others have played in a game with you that they will now be able to read you perfectly. Especially if you are a competent scum player.
Your conclusion is likely correct regarding Vivax, but your reasoning seems distinctly inorganic.I think your tone has been awkward, the "either way" included. I think it's a fine reason to vote you at this stage of the game. I'm not sure how to read your tone yet and whether or not I should be excusing it.In post 206, Vivax wrote:Were you able/willing to get behind the point on Furtive?In post 204, Dannflor wrote:Yeah I'm not necessarily town reading him I just find his posts shocking
Why would the 'either way' be so salient to them as town to the point of making a scumread?
Not to take away from your intention of voting Loki.
Roden has never wrongly sr me and he was around in the beginning but I don’t tr the votes on me regardless because they’re at the best, hella dumb because smart town would realize have multiple people jump on someone like that for no good reason whatsoever is extremely suss.In post 210, Radical Rat wrote:In post 207, Loki Dokie wrote:Actually Vivax was in Terminator as well, so he doesn’t get a pass for that.Code: Select all
In fairness, Vivax didn't arrive in Terminator until after your fragile flesh body was destroyed. Similarly, Roden was replaced relatively early. However, even if these weren't the case, it seems unfair to expect that just because others have played in a game with you that they will now be able to read you perfectly. Especially if you are a competent scum player. Your conclusion is likely correct regarding Vivax, but your reasoning seems distinctly inorganic.
a) What are DonEmpire's scummy actions, in your own words?In post 185, KittyTacky wrote:The slot's scummy actions are not undone, we should wait for a replacement though.In post 129, Dannflor wrote:the wagon is on a slot getting replaced, they are effectively dead votes
I dislike your “lockscum” read when there’s nothing remotely scummy about his post.In post 195, Vivax wrote:If you have no opinion on Loki and think his alignment doesn't matter, me saying either way shouldn't bother you one bit unless you know something of Loki that I don't, which is probs that he's mafia.In post 194, furtiveglance wrote:Loki's alignment doesn't matter, I'm saying you're mafia. Why are you trying to obfuscate/confuse the issue? Why would you even care whether you're 'mafia with someone' or not if you're town? Also this turnaround has not helped you.In post 191, Vivax wrote:With or without TMI on Loki?In post 187, furtiveglance wrote:I suspect Vivax for this post, the 'either way' thing is too conscious of mafia faking tone.In post 178, Vivax wrote:Lolki seems townie to me from this:
Either way, great tone.In post 158, Loki Dokie wrote:I’m town and this flashwagon on me is as scummy as fuck.In post 156, fireisredsir wrote:one down four to go
VOTE: Vivax
Changed my mind on him, got goosed by AtE.
VOTE: Loki
So I naturally look to you like a townie who should appear scummy for that.
You are lock scum to me for this fyi.
VOTE: furtiveglance
VOTE: RodenIn post 185, KittyTacky wrote:The slot's scummy actions are not undone, we should wait for a replacement though.In post 129, Dannflor wrote:the wagon is on a slot getting replaced, they are effectively dead votes
Why does scum!fire unvote me based on correctly guessing my main and it seems you have as well? Wouldn’t it make way more sense for scum!fire to keep pretending he has no idea who I am? Because there’s absolutely no way I would ever know the difference.In post 215, GuiltyLion wrote:ok I am feeling good about a Dann TR currently. I am not sure if I should be in the business of sharing every townread this game but I do like working with Dann so I'm gonna throw that one out there
I still kinda gut scumread everything fire is posting, I don't like that they unvoted Loki and didn't vote anywhere else.
I also don't like Rat describing my case as "nitpicking" in 175 - calling out the logical slip up is arguably a reach, like I understand that particular point is not necessarily AI, but the overall argument I was making was that I felt fire's TR on Ari was premeditated, which is definitely a cause for concern. Also, I want to clarify my understanding of that post in general - RR, are you using "human"/"AI" as stand-ins for "town"/"mafia", or are you just making a joke about the flavor and Bell's comment as opposed to making a read on me?
I feel like I know who Loki is and I have a lot of trouble with his playstyle because he can not fathom or accept any suspicion or scrutiny on him in any circumstances, but so far I am fine with shelving him as town for now and judging him based off his read accuracy when we get some flips - further if fire is scum then I def think Loki's spewed town by their interaction
Other thing I found odd:a) What are DonEmpire's scummy actions, in your own words?In post 185, KittyTacky wrote:The slot's scummy actions are not undone, we should wait for a replacement though.In post 129, Dannflor wrote:the wagon is on a slot getting replaced, they are effectively dead votes
b) Why are you not voting the slot if this is how you feel? Better yet, why are you not voting anybody?
1. you're a tremendously difficult slot for scum to push if you're town, and 2. fire may have felt other players would figure out who you are and expect them to figure it out as well, which becomes suspicious if fire pretends not toIn post 219, Loki Dokie wrote:Why does scum!fire unvote me based on correctly guessing my main and it seems you have as well? Wouldn’t it make way more sense for scum!fire to keep pretending he has no idea who I am? Because there’s absolutely no way I would ever know the difference.
agreed, mostly. one of the early jokes pinged as slightly similar but he feels less like he's pressured to overexplain everything and is able to just vibe more. could just be going for a different style of play but seems slightly towny for nowIn post 209, Loki Dokie wrote:I also have played with scum!furtive before (but he doesn’t know it) and it’s not a lot to go on yet but he seems different here than in that game.
In post 188, Roden wrote:VOTE: LokiIn post 176, Loki Dokie wrote:Not for me it isn’t. I’m actually exhausted rn and this game just literally started, so if you’re town, your vote on me was probably just silly, since you don’t appear to be taking any of that into account but I will reread it tomorrow.In post 174, Dannflor wrote:I mean, someone made a case, or as much as you can make a case at this point of the game on another slot. Isn't that worth reading and either vocally agreeing with or disagreeing or drawing some conclusion from since it's one of the only bits of content in the game so far?
I'm not asking for theses or for everyone to be all caught up or have developed thoughts. It just strikes me as odd when people are present and commenting and posting but ignoring content *especially* at this stage of the game
This vote on me based off this post makes 0 sense. Why does your reading Dann as “obvtown” make my vote scum as opposed to wrong?In post 189, Roden wrote:Dann's obvtown here