In post 150, DeltaWave wrote:idk this is very reminiscent of how I played scum when I first started playing mafia. i'm not going to tunnel on him but i do feel it's suspect
i have played a good bit of mafia at this point; >50 games on this site so far
In post 160, Eiralox wrote:I have my reasons. No one's going to vote Mohab. Ghandi is still blatant scum. looking for the partners.
Do you want to share those reasons? Or at least invent some?
Im not sharing. And i'm starting to think you and ghandi are together. I don't like toffee's entrance or wrong read on frogster but I can still sort of see town there. But you? Toffee's defense of Ghandi is blatant, yours isn't and that wearies me.
hm,
because the votes? or is your main reasoning the passive defense?
Juice: sus
BlueBloodedToffee: sus
DeltaWave: sus af
furitiveking: sus af
furitiveglance: sus
greeting: susy
hutmeil: town af
Asuka: sus
hoppip: sus
Eiralox: town probably
inutile: neutral
mohab500: ?
Nuclear ghandi: town af
Juice: sus
BlueBloodedToffee: sus
DeltaWave: sus af
furitiveking: sus af
furitiveglance: sus
greeting: susy
hutmeil: town af
Asuka: sus
hoppip: sus
Eiralox: town probably
inutile: neutral
mohab500: ?
Nuclear ghandi: town af
What an honour to be labelled 'sus' rather than 'sus af'.
Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2022 8:27 pm
by Ausuka
mohab are you just going to be doing this all game or
Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2022 8:32 pm
by Mohab500
Alright, I'll try to be more serious if other people are going to be taking this game seriously. I will need a bit to properly catch up though, as a lot of stuff has been said and I honestly already lost track of what's going on/what's being said.
That being said, I also wanna ask about this:
In post 100, Eiralox wrote:Bonsoir i be Eiralox and im here for the synth apocalypse.
Frogster and Mohab are lock town, we won't be voting there.
I guess this is the only post I really looked into as it's the one that concerns me, but in the same vein I am confused why you came to these conclusions. I want to hear some elaboration to the lock towns and the confident scum accusation if that's possible.
Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2022 8:36 pm
by Eiralox
I'll elaborate on you and frogster when I feel it's right. If you want to know why ghandi, well you seem to trust me enough to vote there. I'm not gonna write a paragraph here, and I'll give gandhi time to defend themselves before I make my final case. My vote stays.
and they're definitely in the PoE for me. The ISO is quite shallow, when at this point there's more than enough content to make deeper reads. Not going to lie,
intuile
is probably my strongest townlean for now, and the fact that this is the player
DeltaWave
has been so focused in this game makes him look worse in my eyes.
I suppose I agree with him that
hoppip
is sus, and
Ausuka
is town, but my gut tells me that something's not right here.
In post 151, DeltaWave wrote:i'm actually interested in hearing from the sideliners since this has mostly been the same few active people talking
I'd be actually very much interested in hearing more from you.
that's a fallacy that even very seasoned mafia players make, so i'll call it a null for you. specifically, I'm referring to the idea that if you think Player A is town and Player B votes for Player A then Player B is likely mafia. makes assumptions that aren't true, and day 1 usually consists of town primarily going at each other while mafia eggs it on or hides. but like I said, even people who have played many many games make this mistake so I will call it a null for you.
i'm standing by my position that inutile is sus and i really don't care that it's making people scumread me. i'm not going to back off what i think is my best read right now because it's unpopular or it might get me eliminated. clearly, an inutile elimination is not going to happen right now based on how people are reading her but i don't operate on consensus like that. i truly do not understand why people see inutile as town. as i said before, if there's evidence that she always plays this way (even as town) then my tune might change but to date, nobody has done so unless I somehow missed it. you can think i'm mafia all you want but i would have picked a safer bet than this if that was the case. if you really think that mafia will wagon popular players instead of killing them at night i dont know what to tell you.
the hubbub around ghandi is interesting and i don't know what to make of it right now. people took very strong opinions about the player right off the bat and i can't understand why that would be the case. it would be interesting to revisit those interactions once we see some flips.
as for other reads.
asuka strikes me as town.
furtiveglance also strikes me as town. although his vote against me is wrong, the rationale seems towny.
bbt, on the other hand, strikes me as someone who wanted to piggyback off furtive's reasoning to join a relatively uncontroversial wagon that coincidentally targets the main person campaigning against inutile.
hoppip is neutral, leaning town. the rationale for sussing me wasn't great but is the kind of rationale i could expect from townspeople.
nuclear g - again, not sure what to make of this player since i just don't have a read on them and i'm confused as to why this is the biggest wagon rn. i'm not saying it's wrong, just don't know if it's right
juice, hut, miralax, and mohab all fall into the same category for me, which are low activity lurkers. there is ALWAYS scum in this group on d1. i wouldn't be surprised if juice is scum who is letting us slug it out. only two posts and still maintaining an RVS vote when we're nine pages in.
i wouldn't be terribly surprised if it's inutile/juice/bbt, assuming a standard 10:3 split.
Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2022 2:26 am
by Frogsterking
Mohab, can you please elaborate on your town read of Delta?
Okay: inutile isn't going through today. You said you scum read juice and BBT, so of those two, who do you prefer to lim D1?
well you never know but you are most likely right, inutile is not going to be eliminated today. i'd like to hear more from juice before i decide. BBT has also been somewhat absent, mostly just throwing a vote out there and hanging back. bbt's read list also looks incredibly "safe" and non-controversial.