LOST: Dead Thread

[Rad]

I'm changing my guess to BB + Taly

[MathBlade]

The way Butterflies is treated Nora is funny.
They talked to Nora in a term that Is actually directed to everyone except Nora.
They said “Taly Gladiate” to Nora implying they aren’t directing it to Nora but they clearly are.

That’s pretty weak sauce.

Someone doesn’t talk the way I do is a crap scum case.

LOL
But that’s not what I’m saying?
Issue is people need to understand I am not the best at communicating.

See Butterflies is taking as if to try and talk to others reading rather then Nora themselves.

Which they should be doing if they are town? (This is not a confirmation of any alignment)

[ProfessorDrapion]

They should also be directing it at the person to have that person get a better read on them but butterflies isn’t actually concerned about it from what I’m seeing.

[ProfessorDrapion]

I'm changing my guess to BB + Taly

That’s actually a good guess but I still believe it’s Butterflies cause BB’s response to me that one day I don’t think a wolf makes, that’s just real ruff, plus I tracked them twice.

[ProfessorDrapion]

On top of that BB didn’t react towards my red claim from a wolf perspective.

[Rad]

I looked through BB's iso cause bored.

BB joining Math wagon vote felt like there was enough momentum that it seemed inevitable. Jumped on Bella wagon quick cause real red check means it's inevitable. Didn't do anything with Malcolm wagon that I noticed aside from some momentum malcolm votes earlier that didn't fully play out.

Outside that he hard pressed multiple town wagons and doesn't ever seem to have much sway in his opinion once he's latched onto a wagon, aside from momentum swings which he tends to follow. Like he decides there's logical reason to push a wagon so that's that, no reason to hesitate or openly second guess. This is beneficial as scum on scum wagon because town should conclude they're scum anyway if there's a strong logical reason for them to be, and it's beneficial as scum on town because when town flips green he can point to how reasonable the flip was if pressured.

I don't think he's caught ANY shit for any of the town wagons he's pushed either due to how he's voted.

[Rad]

Nancy scum seems kinda impossible tbh. 2 months of non-stop aggro scum play seems absolutely exhausting and she's constantly pulling out reasons for her reads from ISOs. Lesson learned for me if Nancy scum here but I doubt it.

[Rad]

Nancy's reads on me also always felt organic. Like she never turned on me for bs reasons, it was always a reaction to something I said and it always felt very natural when she did it. When I first called out DP to Luke and wanted to flip them, both Nancy and Malcolm jumped on me hard. Malcolm maintained that scum read the entire rest of the game and Nancy very sloooowly backed off into a hard town read until the next time I pressed her wrong and that process repeated. Think that process happened twice full loop and the third time was during my elim where she finally didn't back off (for fairly legit reasons cause I went off on her lol).

[Rad]

Also what do you gain from defending Bella like me Nancy and BBT did if you're scum? Bella lives another day if our plan goes through. Who cares? Bella doesn't die that night. If Drap dies, Bella's to blame. When scum kills someone else, we policy flip Bella most likely? Or leave her alive 1 more day just in case? She's a policy flip eventually 100% and Bella has to play the next X days with more content that could given away her partners. Like what's the long term plan there and what is scum!Nancy trying to accomplish by pushing for that plan? Probably just 3 town defending a plan they believe in yeah?

[ProfessorDrapion]

See how butterflies never mentioned my town flip come this day phase.
But instead concerned on the Pooky kill, (agenda).

[ProfessorDrapion]

Also what do you gain from defending Bella like me Nancy and BBT did if you're scum? Bella lives another day if our plan goes through. Who cares? Bella doesn't die that night. If Drap dies, Bella's to blame. When scum kills someone else, we policy flip Bella most likely? Or leave her alive 1 more day just in case? She's a policy flip eventually 100% and Bella has to play the next X days with more content that could given away her partners. Like what's the long term plan there and what is scum!Nancy trying to accomplish by pushing for that plan? Probably just 3 town defending a plan they believe in yeah?

Butterflies I don’t even think voted the wolves or at least not Malcolm and I believe voted everyone but Malcolm, I did a post check I’ll have to look again but I even seen that wagonomics point to Butterflies and Taly making allot of sense.
I can also get behind the fact Enchant wagon was pure.

[ProfessorDrapion]

@Math
Stop critiquing me I do myself in my own way.
I may struggle to explain it well to others but I do reach the conclusion I want regardless.

[Rad]

I think town!Johnny is a better flip tomorrow than today, so pushing him hard today is counter-intuitive to scum ez winning this. He's the same type of poison if town in ELO that I believed my slot was.

I think scum!Nancy/Taly should have killed MLB or BB last night. Who cares about implicating Johnny in a Pooky flip? Johnny's the easiest push at ELO you've ever seen and Pooky hard reads Nancy town (I assume she's telling the truth there, can't remember that happening exactly, if I was in game I'd search for it but fuck it). If town!BB dies last night you just let town figure out who to flip and go with it (probably johnny, but you don't hard push johnny).

[RH9]

I'm changing my guess to BB + Taly

I'm going to sheep this because I think that it makes the most sense out of all currently proposed solves.

[ProfessorDrapion]

Dude if things happened my way, Johnny and Rad would still be alive in my Towncore.

[ProfessorDrapion]

I can’t tell if butterflies is dropping their hook read or not.

[RH9]

I can’t tell if butterflies is dropping their hook read or not.

I can't either.
But I think that they might have on Johnny.

[ProfessorDrapion]

Eh honestly sad part is I can’t say I see BB as not a wolf anymore but what I can say is this.
I still don’t want to believe it cause
1)BB’s reaction to me saying how they aren’t telling us about everything Luke has been saying about Malcolm and hiding stuff didn’t feel like they would actually make the response as a wolf. They basically told me to fuck off when I asked.
2)BB’s Perspective coming into that day and when I voted C&G and After I did, didn’t seem like a wolf that knew we were both town and the red check is fake where as butterflies did look like it.

[ProfessorDrapion]

Yeah no BB just seemed too unaware when I did that gambit.
Where butterflies acted strange before I revealed it to be a red.
They were acting like they thought and knew it wasn’t a real track before I claimed it.

[ProfessorDrapion]

I think Taly and Butterflies are performing wolf theatre.

[RH9]

We are on the final mislim, right?

[ProfessorDrapion]

Yeah

[Bell]

Still not feelin’ Buterfly scum. For posterity.

[furtiveglance]

Still not feelin’ Buterfly scum. For posterity.

Yeah neither. I feel like they're wrong on OffTheHook though.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

id lim off the hook here probly