hi, i'm large normal 242. you and i are day 6

[Frogsterking]

especially since I brought up KTANE which this player likely does not know about

[Frogsterking]

what's odd is that .. you have never played with professordrapion, so it makes no sense for you to assume I am them either. That's another strike mr frog, but even though you've been struck out for a while

what's odd is that .. you have never played with professordrapion, so it makes no sense for you to assume I am them either. That's another strike mr frog, but even though you've been struck out for a while

[Frogsterking]

I take back what I said about Elementary school: I think I would have found you hilarious in Middle School.

Have a good night, Drap.

[Frogsterking]

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p13442655

you decide if frogs is full of shit or not - I think its not an honest claim he is making about me, and he should probably be policied for trolling (: (and also just in general being scummy + lying to advance pushes)

if this even is you, you are extremely different that game

Something I feel is up since you just very conveniently pulled that up

Yes it's obviously him and the guy can act kind of. You should look at a link to his Nuclear Gandhi alt he used for one game to throw against me (and failed.)

[Frogsterking]

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p13442655

you decide if frogs is full of shit or not - I think its not an honest claim he is making about me, and he should probably be policied for trolling (: (and also just in general being scummy + lying to advance pushes)

if this even is you, you are extremely different that game

Something I feel is up since you just very conveniently pulled that up

Yes it's obviously him and the guy can act kind of. You should look at a link to his Nuclear Gandhi alt he used for one game to throw against me (and failed.)

@Cape

check this out:
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... ct[]=36739

He invented the most RIDICULOUS character to throw this game

And Town still won

[Frogsterking]

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p13442655

you decide if frogs is full of shit or not - I think its not an honest claim he is making about me, and he should probably be policied for trolling (: (and also just in general being scummy + lying to advance pushes)

if this even is you, you are extremely different that game

Something I feel is up since you just very conveniently pulled that up

Yes it's obviously him and the guy can act kind of. You should look at a link to his Nuclear Gandhi alt he used for one game to throw against me (and failed.)

@Cape

check this out:
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... ct[]=36739

He invented the most RIDICULOUS character to throw this game

And Town still won

God I can't get the link to the ISO to work. But he is Nuclear Gandhi in that game. When he got tired of trolling he just let the account sit there and the mod had to replace it out

[Frogsterking]

Anyway, good night Drap, have fun poopin' up the thread.

[Frogsterking]

What the piss was page 43?

if people wanna really believe this kid's lies and obviously contrived bullshit then im done with yall im not going to try and u can vote me out lmfao. yall dont deserve me

Yeah my vote stays parked. This is a frustrated scum post.

The irony is that I think your post kind of looks like a frustrated scum post and you're scum pushing Drap right now who is throwing in a Town slot.

[Frogsterking]

It's less the trolling IMO and more the dumb tone and weird votes. Also he didn't answer my question about Malcolm.

Eh I take it back KT seems pretty Town here.

[Frogsterking]

Cape read ProfessorDrapion's D1 ISO from Lost.

[Frogsterking]

Frustrated town doesn't talk like that. I can tell the difference between town AtE and scum AtE.

If I hit a nerve and you're saying it's a scum nerve then I'm going to keep hammering.

[Frogsterking]

Good luck reading that ISO, Cape

Have fun pooping up the thread, Drap.

[Frogsterking]

Scum are legitimately seeing it right now if Chungus is town what do you mean when?

I don't understand your question. I probably still thought BGC was Town when I wrote that. I don't really understand what I wrote either.

I'm pretty sure BGC is scum dumb telling, especially if you're that confident on KittyTacky and he's that confident in his read. If you know who they are and they aren't some game thrower then they're taking you for a loop right now. I just trolled the fuck out of them and I didn't draw anything AI from it but Kitty said they made frustrated scum tells which would line up with their position in the game state and what I was throwing at them.

[Frogsterking]

It was in a response to a bullet-pointed list, I thought you'd read it instead of skimming?

Anyways, fair enough. I still think you're scum.

no you dont because frogster just spewed you scum

the poorly contrived distancing ploy he just did was blatant and fake

Bullshit.

Kitty are you down to vote out the Greeting slot first and the BGC slot tomorrow? They're both scum and the Greeting slot is in antispew and the Chungus one isn't.

[Frogsterking]

Thank you for shutting down Chungus by the way, Kitty.

[Frogsterking]

What the piss was page 43?

if people wanna really believe this kid's lies and obviously contrived bullshit then im done with yall im not going to try and u can vote me out lmfao. yall dont deserve me

Yeah my vote stays parked. This is a frustrated scum post.

disagree

Ms. Contrarian over here.

[Frogsterking]

Big Chungus is T3?

[Frogsterking]

Oh, Big Chungus is DKKoba

[Frogsterking]

That's how he knew who Nuclear Gandhi was

[Frogsterking]

Spoiler:

vote count 1.10 !

Alisae (4):

Frogsterking, Titus, PookyTheMagicalBear, Toogeloo

Frogsterking (3):

Save The Dragons, Big Chungus Gaming, MariaR

Big Chungus Gaming (2):

KittyTacky, Alisae

MalcolmTucker (2):

Not_Mafia, furtiveglance

Toogeloo (1):

marcistar

furtiveglance (1):

Enchant

not voting (3):

MalcolmTucker, Charloux, Cape90

with 16 alive, it takes 9 to blow someone up. day 1 ends in (expired on 2022-10-12 15:00:00)

modorator notes

• e

Oh, Big Chungus is DKKoba

Congratulations I guess

Dude I can read Koba, I modeled part of my D1 hunting process after some things I saw them do. if this is Koba they are obv scumming hardcore.

[Frogsterking]

Oh, Big Chungus is DKKoba

Congratulations I guess

Like if this is Koba and you know that and you can't tell they are scum then I don't think you understand how Koba plays D1 at all.

[Frogsterking]

I'm assuming you were being sarcastic lol

[Frogsterking]

1009 my reads list

I think greeting(now replaced by alisae)/chungus(koba alt?)/dragons/maria is just the scum team, the rest of you all seem pretty genuine to me currently. I will try to post a better presented version of my reads list later. I suggest referencing it if I get N1ed and you get stuck.

[Frogsterking]

Koba if I went 4/4 on D1 with you trolling me like this you're going to award me medal of Changeling Hunter.

[Frogsterking]

and just now claiming a super dooper secret method(it isnt real).

It's called using process of elimination and narrowing down the pool of suspects dude. You do that when you're Town, and in this game you never set up a PoE.

[Frogsterking]

Can't be koba. BCG's sentences have capitalization and punctuation.

[Frogsterking]

1009 my reads list

I think greeting(now replaced by alisae)/chungus(koba alt?)/dragons/maria is just the scum team, the rest of you all seem pretty genuine to me currently. I will try to post a better presented version of my reads list later. I suggest referencing it if I get N1ed and you get stuck.

No Dragons, greeting and maria have been quiet

Haven't you just picked 4 quite loud/active players?

[Frogsterking]

No, dragons, maria and greeting have been quiet. A lot of the volume from maria and dragons has only been reactive in nature to my pushing them, as well.

[Frogsterking]

No, dragons, maria and greeting have been quiet. A lot of the volume from maria and dragons has only been reactive in nature to my pushing them, as well.

(IMO)

[Frogsterking]

VOTE: MalcolmTucker

Why are you so boring?

I've been deliberating on my first post. Do you have any strategy suggestions for me?

[Frogsterking]

I deleted the first 2/3s of what I was originally planning to say.

__
VOTE: Big Chungus

I also have something to share in regards to marci.

i suddenly feel bad

Why would you feel bad for a freshly replaced slot?

alisae didnt get a chance to play sobs it feels so cruel we shouldve just limmed while it was waiting for the replacement..

This pinged me for something I've seen from marci's scum game:

Marci do you lolhammer?

ive done it once

it was at 2am and i was tired and didnt count votes i thought i was just helping pressure

Did you like it?

NO LOL

I FELT SO BAD FOR THEM IT FELT LIKE THEY WERE BEING GANGED ON ANS I WAS PART OF THAT PROBLEM!! I JUST WANTED THEM TO HAVE FUN BUT I RUINED THEIR TIME

i was townread b4 the hammer too cuz i voteparked scum d1 very early on but then after that quickhammer i never regained my status again

Similarities in the theme of what I perceive as theater. I also don't like marci's persistence about chungus and I being TvT as having good odds to come from Town.

[Frogsterking]

I want Malcolm to follow up on their Townsend of Dragons and FoS on Maria.

[Frogsterking]

Hey, I got fruit

I believe NM is more likely to post this as Town but my reasoning is shakey.

proceeds to sus cape

Marci, why?

[Frogsterking]

I feel like this from Kitty is spot on regarding BCG but then gives us the classic scenario of "would BCG be so obvious as to eliminate Kitty here?" It's giving me pause on the slot at least.

Don't like this. IIoA in passive defense of BGC.

[Frogsterking]

I feel like this from Kitty is spot on regarding BCG but then gives us the classic scenario of "would BCG be so obvious as to eliminate Kitty here?" It's giving me pause on the slot at least.

Don't like this. IIoA in passive defense of BGC.

What's IIoA?

Information instead of analysis. MT doesn't say anything about what he thinks the night kill actually reflects, he just points out that it's a factor and leaves it hanging as some kind of implied counterpoint against Kitty's case being "spot on."

Pedit

I don't like him going after Charloux here either.

VOTE: Malcolm

I want Big Chungus dead D3 especially if this flips scum.

[Frogsterking]

Put it this way - I'm not sure you could read back posts from both me and BCG and see us as likely being paired.

Because?

[Frogsterking]

I'd say I've pretty consistently suspected the slot so far in a way that makes us unlikely to be paired

You were 100% useless in assisting with running it up yesterday.

[Frogsterking]

I'm still catching up but it feels like things have gotten overly personal between you guys and I'm unsure if that's influencing your read here to the degree where anyone backing away/not fully convinced on BCG who isn't obvious town to you is then being read as scum.

Bullshit.

[Frogsterking]

Okay so Koba is Town and just had shitty reads D1?

[Frogsterking]

>_>

This game feels like it requires a level of critical thinking I haven't consistently applied

VOTE: Dragons

PEdit

I'm on top of it.

[Frogsterking]

What a wacked out D1 strategy. At least we're winning I guess.

[Frogsterking]

what is even happening with the Frogster and BCG slot by the way?

Why is Frogsterking saying we are winning? We haven't killed mafia yet what do you mean sir?

I'm open to the idea BCG is Town who rolled a 0 on straightforwardness

[Frogsterking]

why not kill Frogsterking?

To create drama BTW

[Frogsterking]

what is even happening with the Frogster and BCG slot by the way?

Why is Frogsterking saying we are winning? We haven't killed mafia yet what do you mean sir?

I'm open to the idea BCG is Town who rolled a 0 on straightforwardness

Glass houses I guess

[Frogsterking]

I think I've been too stubborn in the past. This game is harder than others I've played in.

What's so difficult about it?

[Frogsterking]

Then just calling any suspicion on him garbage kinda becoming this antagonistic boogeyman of the game.

He's kinda stepping into my territory then. Not sure I like that.

[Frogsterking]

Frogsterking, what do you think of marcistar?

Tstbs. My own feelings right now are somewhere between my SoD statement on their scum theater and CHUNGUS' white knighting of them. I want Dragons today because I think they're on antispew.

[Frogsterking]

Spoiler:

vote count 2.2 !

furtiveglance (3):

Enchant, Cape90, marcistar

Save The Dragons (2):

Big Chungus Gaming, Frogsterking

MalcolmTucker (2):

Titus, MariaR

marcistar (2):

furtiveglance, PookyTheMagicalBear

Big Chungus Gaming (1):

Save The Dragons

not voting (4):

Not_Mafia, MalcolmTucker, Toogeloo, Charloux

with 14 alive, it takes 8 to blow someone up. day 2 starts now and ends in (expired on 2022-10-23 14:51:54)

modorator notes

• prodding toogeloo & titus

Anyone wanna tell me why they are campaigning for who they are? I don’t see any major sticking points.

You don't see any major sticking points because by your own admission you are clueless. You can take 1009 as a rough estimate to how I feel, though some slots have changed. My plan is to test BGC by flipping Dragons.

[Frogsterking]

Spoiler:

vote count 1.7 !

Big Chungus Gaming (4):

KittyTacky, PookyTheMagicalBear, Toogeloo, Frogsterking

Save The Dragons (3):

Gamma Emerald, Charloux, Enchant

Frogsterking (3):

Greeting, Big Chungus Gaming, Save The Dragons

MalcolmTucker (1):

MariaR

Cape90 (1):

SirRhett

Toogeloo (1):

marcistar

Enchant (1):

Cape90

not voting (2):

MalcolmTucker, Fennec

with 16 alive, it takes 9 to blow someone up. day 1 ends in (expired on 2022-10-12 15:00:00)

modorator notes

• e

Can anyone tell me why this wagon died? Kitty and Alisae both wanted it who were dead town.

I am very surprised at the lack of BCG wagon right now.

I have to do some work so I will be catching up as I can but knowing if town was altogether wrong D1 or Alisae was an OH Shit wagon seems important.

If you're Town you aren't showing it. Can you do VCA on the D1 wagons and share your analysis instead of asking these weird questions to pretend like you're analyzing something?

[Frogsterking]

I've seen MathBlade sort by "vibes" and "VCA" and neither one looked like this.

[Frogsterking]

You gonna answer my question about why we can’t test BGC with a wagon?

It's a stupid question, if you were paying any attention to what you're writing you would realize that BGC has already been tested with a wagon. Instead of suggesting stupid things and playing dumb, why don't you look at what happened the first time BGC was wagoned and use words to explain what you think is AI from it?

[Frogsterking]

I want to kill Dragons first because they're on antispew compared to MathBlade who is likely to spew something on accident.

[Frogsterking]

I'm fine with a Math vs Dragons cross today. I prefer Dragons death due to the antispew thing but I'd be happy with Math instead because they are quite a bit dodgy and are probably flipping scum.

[Frogsterking]

It helps me find premises to figure out the overall vibe of the game.

No it doesn't.

[Frogsterking]

Mathblade does seem town but I didn't like his predecessor

This is evidence of a thought process which is completely unnatural.

[Frogsterking]

Mathblade does seem town but I didn't like his predecessor

This is evidence of a thought process which is completely unnatural.

I disagree. Perfectly reasonable on D2 for your read on a slot to change when someone replaces in. Plenty of town players don't look townie early on which is why mislims happen.

That's not why I said it was an unnatural thought process.

[Frogsterking]

Mathblade does seem town but I didn't like his predecessor

This is evidence of a thought process which is completely unnatural.

Why?

I don't see how a competent player can read Math's posts and their main takeaway is that Math seems like Town, and I don't see how the main reason they would be unconvinced by Math is because of Charloux's play. The line I quoted looks more likely to be created by scum deciding to hedge their bets on Math's slot rather than some sincere reaction a player had in regards to Math's entrance.

[Frogsterking]

I'm BoPing both Dragons and Pooky for Town reading Math's entrance. And if Dragons flips town then I'm BoPing BGC eventually too. I have a very simple minded approach to this game.

I'm interested in looking through Malcolm's posts and seeing who they scumread now.

[Frogsterking]

Spoiler:

vote count 2.3 !

furtiveglance (3):

Enchant, Cape90, marcistar

Save The Dragons (2):

Big Chungus Gaming, Frogsterking

marcistar (2):

furtiveglance, PookyTheMagicalBear

Big Chungus Gaming (2):

Save The Dragons, MathBlade

MalcolmTucker (1):

MariaR

MathBlade (1):

Titus

not voting (3):

Not_Mafia, MalcolmTucker, Toogeloo

with 14 alive, it takes 8 to blow someone up. day 2 starts now and ends in (expired on 2022-10-23 14:51:54)

modorator notes

• prodding mariar & big chungus gaming

I'm fine Townblocking Cape, Enchant, MT, Toogle and Titus in no particular order, and pseudo-townblocking marci and BGC contingent on how the next couple of Days play out. It takes 8 to eliminate so I prefer the Townblock be voting together.

If any of you 7 have issues with anyone else I named then now is the time to fight it out rather than later.

I prefer to eliminate Dragons because I think they are being careful to make sure their ISO is mostly useless after they flip scum, and I want to test BGC to get a better guage for how full of shit they are.

[Frogsterking]

I'm fine Townblocking Cape, Enchant, MT, Toogle and Titus in no particular order, and pseudo-townblocking marci and BGC contingent on how the next couple of Days play out. It takes 8 to eliminate so I prefer the Townblock be voting together.

If any of you 7 have issues with anyone else I named then now is the time to fight it out rather than later.

I prefer to eliminate Dragons because I think they are being careful to make sure their ISO is mostly useless after they flip scum, and I want to test BGC to get a better guage for how full of shit they are.

@marci
@Enchant
@Cape
@MT
@Toogle
@Titus
@BGC

1) do you have issues with any of the other 7 players (include myself on this list) I named? Now is the time to voice them.

2) are you willing to vote together on Dragons today with the assumption that the players you're currently voting will still be in the PoE the next couple of Days?

3) I prefer we not spend 6 days flooding the thread with tinfoil, it's anti Town. I prefer we hash out any serious conflicts within ourselves over the next few IRL days and then vote together as a block and end D2 with Town WiM intact.

[Frogsterking]

Why is Enchant town blocked?
They have yet to really hit us with something juicy

They replaced into Nero's slot and are playing in their Town meta.

[Frogsterking]

Ha ha ha Toogle? That is the most random town blocking of someone I think I have seen

Thank you!

[Frogsterking]

and now does this weird tr despite like no posts really makes me think BGC and Frog are partnered.

This is a lie, town!Math wouldn't read BGC as trustworthy.

[Frogsterking]

and now does this weird tr despite like no posts really makes me think BGC and Frog are partnered.

This is a lie, town!Math wouldn't read BGC as trustworthy.

Wtf, Freudian slip. Town!math wouldn't read BGC and I as partnered*

I think Town!math could easily FoS BGC here though. That's not a part of the reason why I FoS Math.

[Frogsterking]

and now does this weird tr despite like no posts really makes me think BGC and Frog are partnered.

This is a lie, town!Math wouldn't read BGC as trustworthy.

Wtf, Freudian slip. Town!math wouldn't read BGC and I as partnered*

I think Town!math could easily FoS BGC here though. That's not a part of the reason why I FoS Math.

You wanna explain why your BGC read went from “kill it with fire”
To “conditional TR”

Based on a single prod dodge?

Nope.

[Frogsterking]

I feel like MT has contributed a lot I'm confused why people think he didn't

I think I'd go for a MariaR wagon still I do not understand why people let up the gas on that one

Titus isn't really doing anything

I dunno where BCG went

Mathblade does seem town but I didn't like his predecessor

I feel like if pooky were scum he'd be doing more or having some gimmick he does seem a little lackluster this game maybe I'm not sure what that means about his alignment

Fennec was pretty town and furtive hasn't done anything to change my mind on that

Yeah MT I think still comes across as towny, I like the way they treated your slot and also there were a lot easier pot shots then Maria.

I wouldn't mind killing Maria either but I got distracted.

Yes

Also yes

Math seems towny I think and Charloux was also towny in him responding to me when I pressured him.

Pooky read here is kind of whatever I guess. You could look at Toogeloo for this whole Gimmick argument.

Furtive has felt both solvy but yet kinda underwhelming with his content that isn't just vanilla reads.

Cape can you make a counter offer for who you want in the Towncore?

[Frogsterking]

and now does this weird tr despite like no posts really makes me think BGC and Frog are partnered.

This is a lie, town!Math wouldn't read BGC as trustworthy.

Wtf, Freudian slip. Town!math wouldn't read BGC and I as partnered*

I think Town!math could easily FoS BGC here though. That's not a part of the reason why I FoS Math.

You wanna explain why your BGC read went from “kill it with fire”
To “conditional TR”

Based on a single prod dodge?

Nope.

Then the most logical explanation is you’re defending a buddy. Titus tried to chainsaw attack me.

It’s the only thing that makes sense since Titus won’t give reads and yours are patently illogical.

Titus I am 50/50 on

But I am more than okay knocking y’all down like bowling pins

I'm not Town coring you based on your entrance, so if you want to have an impact before you die then your best bet is to read the damn game and case someone else who is within the PoE.

[Frogsterking]

I feel like MT has contributed a lot I'm confused why people think he didn't

I think I'd go for a MariaR wagon still I do not understand why people let up the gas on that one

Titus isn't really doing anything

I dunno where BCG went

Mathblade does seem town but I didn't like his predecessor

I feel like if pooky were scum he'd be doing more or having some gimmick he does seem a little lackluster this game maybe I'm not sure what that means about his alignment

Fennec was pretty town and furtive hasn't done anything to change my mind on that

Yeah MT I think still comes across as towny, I like the way they treated your slot and also there were a lot easier pot shots then Maria.

I wouldn't mind killing Maria either but I got distracted.

Yes

Also yes

Math seems towny I think and Charloux was also towny in him responding to me when I pressured him.

Pooky read here is kind of whatever I guess. You could look at Toogeloo for this whole Gimmick argument.

Furtive has felt both solvy but yet kinda underwhelming with his content that isn't just vanilla reads.

Cape can you make a counter offer for who you want in the Towncore?

I'm vetoing Math and Dragons fyi unless you have the most incredible Townsend for them.

[Frogsterking]

You threatening to kill me? Then I left my reads BGC -> you -> Titus

Yeah I want you executed by the Town block once you've had a Day or two to fuck up. For example, I feel like the three names you just listed are Town because you want to induce Titus to tunnel on one of us due to "rule of 3" which I believe you are aware she mentions every single game.

[Frogsterking]

You threatening to kill me? Then I left my reads BGC -> you -> Titus

Yeah I want you executed by the Town block once you've had a Day or two to fuck up. For example, I feel like the three names you just listed are Town because you want to induce Titus to tunnel on one of us due to "rule of 3" which I believe you are aware she mentions every single game.

Then why don’t you “join” me to hasten it?

If your goal is to “prove” me scum, then “prove” it already.

(Prove is in quotes as I am town)

Not engaging with this.

[Frogsterking]

Since me being “loud” we have people giving reads now and playing versus stagnation and just bland. We have something to go off of

Since me being “loud” we have people giving reads now and playing versus stagnation and just bland. We have something to go off of

This is a fair point. Game was stagnating for a while and while there's a lot of extraneous back and forth stuff here I do think Math's entrance has helped breathe a bit of life into the game. That feels pro-town.

3) I prefer we not spend 6 days flooding the thread with tinfoil, it's anti Town. I prefer we hash out any serious conflicts within ourselves over the next few IRL days and then vote together as a block and end D2 with Town WiM intact.

__

@marci
@Enchant
@Cape
@MT
@Toogle
@Titus
@BGC

1) do you have issues with any of the other 7 players (include myself on this list) I named? Now is the time to voice them.

2) are you willing to vote together on Dragons today with the assumption that the players you're currently voting will still be in the PoE the next couple of Days?

[Frogsterking]

I was talking to frogsterking my bad

What do you want me to change my mind on?

[Frogsterking]

I'm still not seeing scum Frog, their play is really erratic here but feels townie erratic. I don't know, the frustration with BCG D1 felt more like town hyperfocusing on a specific slot for reasons which were going beyond the game itself. I'm aware scum isn't always robotic and sensible but I feel like scum would be more likely to rein it in a bit.

BCG I'd be content with eliminating though. Have had some doubts on the slot (mainly due to Kitty's elimination) but their responses since returning to the game haven't been townie in the slightest. Given their activity D1 feels like they're not contributing much in the hope we'll just forget them and opt for someone else.

Can you answer my damn questions instead of going back and forth with the bitter low PoE slots who spam "kill frog"over and over again?

Town doesn't need chaos and lone wolves right now it needs organization.

[Frogsterking]

I'm still not seeing scum Frog, their play is really erratic here but feels townie erratic. I don't know, the frustration with BCG D1 felt more like town hyperfocusing on a specific slot for reasons which were going beyond the game itself. I'm aware scum isn't always robotic and sensible but I feel like scum would be more likely to rein it in a bit.

BCG I'd be content with eliminating though. Have had some doubts on the slot (mainly due to Kitty's elimination) but their responses since returning to the game haven't been townie in the slightest. Given their activity D1 feels like they're not contributing much in the hope we'll just forget them and opt for someone else.

Can you answer my damn questions instead of going back and forth with the bitter low PoE slots who spam "kill frog"over and over again?

Town doesn't need chaos and lone wolves right now it needs organization.

You have to realize on some level right now that it's in scum interest to spam the thread up by whatever means necessary and prevent us from consolidating a Town core.

[Frogsterking]

VOTE: pooky

[Frogsterking]

Why are you so against me trying to lead coordination?

If you're you have no idea what you're doing right now

[Frogsterking]

What's the Pooky cased based on? I find Pooky hard to read in general and had them null so far.

They're playing to their scum meta and their D1 votes were poor in hindsight

[Frogsterking]

What's the Pooky cased based on? I find Pooky hard to read in general and had them null so far.

They're playing to their scum meta and their D1 votes were poor in hindsight

What specifically is Pooky's scum meta? I find them hard to parse in most games but can't recall having actually played with scum Pooky now I think of it.

Lurk early game, power through late game

[Frogsterking]

Been a few slots that could apply to. My view is you and Math has been TvT and therefore it's likely some scum have been lurking in the background to let that play out since it's useful for them.

I have reservations about this because FMPOV Math is hitting all the same beats they did in Lost.

[Frogsterking]

Feel like their play so far is closer to how I'm used to them as town, bit more scattergun, ironically not a million miles away from you albeit different styles.

What do you mean by this?

[Frogsterking]

Lost felt different though because Math was coming into a slot that was already under heavy pressure and they had to work from the beginning to try and get town onto their side. Obviously didn't work out.

Okay.

[Frogsterking]

2) are you willing to vote together on Dragons today with the assumption that the players you're currently voting will still be in the PoE the next couple of Days?

I would lean no here actually, probably

Thank you for responding. What about pooky?

[Frogsterking]

2) are you willing to vote together on Dragons today with the assumption that the players you're currently voting will still be in the PoE the next couple of Days?

I would lean no here actually, probably

Thank you for responding. What about pooky?

sorta maybe.

Do you think Toog's gimmick there is towny?

Yeah I'm considering it an ironic Town tell because I've seen Town play like that and never scum. I think the fact that they voted with pooky all D1 and then on D2 were like "oh pookymight be scum" is +town because theoretically if there was something up with Pooky's votes D1 they would be the one to notice it and I don't think they would notice it during D1, I think they would notice it sometime N1.

[Frogsterking]

I will slow roll it since Pooky immediately got 3 votes on them, but I could see the blunt directness they display as scummy

Okay you're kind of dropped precipitously in my Town reads just now though

[Frogsterking]

I'm not inherently against Pooky for what it's worth since I don't TR them or SR them either way, wouldn't have any objections to a wagon to the same degree as I would with STD who I still vocally townread.

Feeling a bit lost on some slots in general at the moment. Maria's voting looks opportunistic at times but I can also read it in the spirit of compromise coming from a slot willing to probe and push things forward. Perhaps I'm too influenced by my D1 read on them.

Feel like their play so far is closer to how I'm used to them as town, bit more scattergun, ironically not a million miles away from you albeit different styles.

What do you mean by this?

Did you post a reads list yet Malcolm?

[Frogsterking]

Yeah not impressed with pooky's solving here. Talk to me --not about me-- if you want to sort me.

[Frogsterking]

it's pretty polarized is this not a good way to read you?

i said you're town am i wrong?

A Question a Day Keeps the Tracker Away

[Frogsterking]

in the three scum games of yours i've read you basically don't participate or talk at all.

you basically ghost the thread

in your town games you just keep humming along throwing things into the thread to "solve"

it's pretty polarized is this not a good way to read you?

Frogster's playstyle is annoying because he's purposefully very polarized and I suspect he does it for a reason so that he can be immune to being voted out as town which is basically right on the borderline of openly trust telling without saying so

but he also has incredible self belief in his reads which are usually just wrong and he never learns from it so I'm not sure if its because he's incapable of learning or because he's trolling games just to piss people off on purpose.

ur such a troll dont talk to me if you're going to waste my time with horseshit

I'm not really sure where the anger is coming from and I'm assuming it's fake and scum-motivated. If it isn't then you can try to explain what's making you angry I guess.

[Frogsterking]

What's the Pooky cased based on? I find Pooky hard to read in general and had them null so far.

They're playing to their scum meta and their D1 votes were poor in hindsight

What's the Pooky cased based on? I find Pooky hard to read in general and had them null so far.

They're playing to their scum meta and their D1 votes were poor in hindsight

What specifically is Pooky's scum meta? I find them hard to parse in most games but can't recall having actually played with scum Pooky now I think of it.

Lurk early game, power through late game

@marci

Nothing has changed since here. If anything their reaction to being voted is +scum. Looks kind of artificial.

[Frogsterking]

probly cuz its the 2nd game in a row you shit tunneled me for lol????reasoning and were wrong i held my tongue in the anon game but i think you're just doing this to piss me off atp

Okay, why are you focused on my vote in particular though? IIRC I don't think I was even the first one to FoS you.

PEdit

This just looks like desperate effort to make me second guess myself. My vote stays.

[Frogsterking]

like you're basically scum siding clown show

Speaking of scum siding clown shows:

Not_Mafia replaces Gamma Emerald

I forgot about this. I had a pretty solid Town read on Gamma in this game. This causes NM to also be invited to the Towncore.

[Frogsterking]

VOTE: frogster

this slot is town but if we dont elim him we will lose this game

Okay, why are you focused on my vote in particular though? IIRC I don't think I was even the first one to FoS you.

[Frogsterking]

VOTE: frogster

this slot is town but if we dont elim him we will lose this game

Okay, why are you focused on my vote in particular though? IIRC I don't think I was even the first one to FoS you.

because you're incapable of reading

This feels like pooky!scum tbh

[Frogsterking]

like I'll fill in the blanks if Titus wants me to prove that I actually have a result on her but I don't see why I would do it if she believes me

Because I am an investigative TPR.

do you want all the investigative TPRs to claim ? :/

This is projection imo

[Frogsterking]

I need to see an updated read list from BGC.

@Malcolm

Thank you for posting yours btw. I feel like you have a very non-suspicious looking read list.

[Frogsterking]

I am very much of the opinion anyone opposing BGC at this point is scum or aiding scum.

I have an incredibly wild theory about BGC and their D1 play. They didn't say anything to make me Town read them.

[Frogsterking]

I am very much of the opinion anyone opposing BGC at this point is scum or aiding scum.

I have an incredibly wild theory about BGC and their D1 play. They didn't say anything to make me Town read them.

Ftr—> Frogger is changing his read and I didn’t say what kind of tpr.

I've never changed any reads since you've entered the game AFAIK. I'm trying to explain a little bit more than I did before because I'm less convinced that you're obvscum now.

[Frogsterking]

I followed Titus last night and she performed an investigative action

I'm assuming she got some kind of inno on Frogster cuz she said this:

Why are you so against me trying to lead coordination?

If you're you have no idea what you're doing right now

+1 I have like 95% certainty on Frogsterking town.

Which really makes sense only if you're TPR and you're crumbing your night 1 inno - therefore she should be town.

Looks phishy. I suggest no one confirm or deny what Pooky is saying. I'm willing to follow Math today as long as they listen to Titus and I.

[Frogsterking]

I feel like Town!pooky had other options of how to play this situation. This whole interaction just feels like a big phishing attempt. I disagree that Titus comment looks like an inno soft, I've used that expression before because 95% can imply p < 0.05 which is one benchmark for statistical significance.

[Frogsterking]

Works for me

I don't get the crumb.

[Frogsterking]

I'm pretty sure we're all town and I didn't need to claim anything to figure this out

I think we did because 5 town confirmed in 16P is not normal.

It’s a golden rule of normals that you don’t have that many confirms.

How do we have 5 town confirmed?

We don't even have 5 confirmed role claims let alone alignments.

Pedit:

That crumb doesn't float with me. I think pooky is trying to phish Titus.

[Frogsterking]

Spoiler:

vote count 2.3 !

furtiveglance (3):

Enchant, Cape90, marcistar

Save The Dragons (2):

Big Chungus Gaming, Frogsterking

marcistar (2):

furtiveglance, PookyTheMagicalBear

Big Chungus Gaming (2):

Save The Dragons, MathBlade

MalcolmTucker (1):

MariaR

MathBlade (1):

Titus

not voting (3):

Not_Mafia, MalcolmTucker, Toogeloo

with 14 alive, it takes 8 to blow someone up. day 2 starts now and ends in (expired on 2022-10-23 14:51:54)

modorator notes

• prodding mariar & big chungus gaming

I'm fine Townblocking Cape, Enchant, MT, Toogle and Titus in no particular order, and pseudo-townblocking marci and BGC contingent on how the next couple of Days play out. It takes 8 to eliminate so I prefer the Townblock be voting together.

If any of you 7 have issues with anyone else I named then now is the time to fight it out rather than later.

I prefer to eliminate Dragons because I think they are being careful to make sure their ISO is mostly useless after they flip scum, and I want to test BGC to get a better guage for how full of shit they are.

Math if I add you and NM to this list, does the resulting PoE make sense with the VCA from yesterday?

[Frogsterking]

@Frogger
I would have to redo my VCA assuming that many people town. I don’t like that many assumptions.

Can you do VCA on D1 assuming furtive, Dragons, MariaR and pooky are scum then? Those would be the only ones left.

If something doesn't check out then I can try backtracing my steps from here to see when I Townread someone for a stupid reason.

[Frogsterking]

I can but that’s not VCA, that’d be spinning a narrative assuming certain facts true.

I get that and I'm not asking you to forge evidence in favor of the narrative I'm presenting, I'm asking you to present evidence that my narrative is wrong so I know to look for a fix.

[Frogsterking]

@Frogger
I would have to redo my VCA assuming that many people town. I don’t like that many assumptions.

Can you do VCA on D1 assuming furtive, Dragons, MariaR and pooky are scum then? Those would be the only ones left.

If something doesn't check out then I can try backtracing my steps from here to see when I Townread someone for a stupid reason.

I can but that’s not VCA, that’d be spinning a narrative assuming certain facts true.

What I find interesting is I don’t think Titus’s post makes sense with her first few posts.

I will check her prior slot.

I can but that’s not VCA, that’d be spinning a narrative assuming certain facts true.

I get that and I'm not asking you to forge evidence in favor of the narrative I'm presenting, I'm asking you to present evidence that my narrative is wrong so I know to look for a fix.

I'm trying to solve by moving right from left.

[Frogsterking]

So since Pooky thought switching from BGC to greeting despite it 4 and 4 and both being town in that world.

That doesn’t add up to me.

Okay: what if Pooky!scum prefers to keep town!BGC and town!frog in the game so they can clash? That would line up with Kitty being the nightkill as well.

[Frogsterking]

So since Pooky thought switching from BGC to greeting despite it 4 and 4 and both being town in that world.

That doesn’t add up to me.

Okay: what if Pooky!scum prefers to keep town!BGC and town!frog in the game so they can clash? That would line up with Kitty being the nightkill as well.

Then based on the VCs Pooky stays on Malcolm and never swaps to BGC.

Source 1.5 and 1.6

>_<

So Pooky + BGC makes more sense?

[Frogsterking]

I followed Titus last night and she performed an investigative action

I'm assuming she got some kind of inno on Frogster cuz she said this:

Why are you so against me trying to lead coordination?

If you're you have no idea what you're doing right now

+1 I have like 95% certainty on Frogsterking town.

Which really makes sense only if you're TPR and you're crumbing your night 1 inno - therefore she should be town.

If you're Town, why did you claim all this instead of trying to talk you're way out?

[Frogsterking]

+why did you follow Titus?

[Frogsterking]

I kinda think if anyone is scum of the pairing it’s Titus tbh.

I have a reason for this but I want Titus to give her result.

Why does it feel like you're trying to out all the roles?

[Frogsterking]

I feel like I'm being lied to.

[Frogsterking]

Mainly I think Titus if town would have a hard inno.

But if she’s faking at having not having a hard inno to survive I want her to out her target.

Ok.

[Frogsterking]

I did some self reflection and I decided that Pooky is scum.

[Frogsterking]

I did some self reflection and I decided that Pooky is scum.

Why?

There are a lot of elements of his scum play present and I don't trust he has a town!motivation for claiming when he did.

[Frogsterking]

I did some self reflection and I decided that Pooky is scum.

Why?

There are a lot of elements of his scum play present and I don't trust he has a town!motivation for claiming when he did.

What's the scum motivation?

Out roles and get pressure off.

[Frogsterking]

I did some self reflection and I decided that Pooky is scum.

Why?

There are a lot of elements of his scum play present and I don't trust he has a town!motivation for claiming when he did.

What's the scum motivation?

Out roles and get pressure off.

So you're suspecting that town!Pooky never thinks I am crumbing an inno there? Why would scum pooky suggest it then?

To get you to talk about your role and reveal who you investigated. I think it was a phishing attempt. I don't know whether or not pooky actually believed that was a crumb.

[Frogsterking]

Like I said, I've thought about it and I believe that Pooky is lying. I don't buy the lurking + AtE + claim.

[Frogsterking]

I don't think you've actually thought about it because your comments make no sense

I suspect you are writing things that are factually inaccurate because you think it's funny to try to tilt someone over the internet

I'm going to sleep on this.

I'd love your thoughts on where we should go Pooky.

I'm happy to kill anyone on this list:

marci
Enchant
MT
BCG

No.

[Frogsterking]

also if im fucking scum trying to "rolefish" titus I would just fake claim Neapolitian or some bullshit and push her as a guilty

softing that I think she's inno without revealing details is because I didn't want to make her a target

you had few posts and your predecessor slot had few posts and lurked out - theres no heat on you at all.

you are pretty under the radar and I thought a decent chance to be carrying out the nightkill if you were scum

I want to point out this same line of reasoning can come from scum hunting for TPR.

[Frogsterking]

Town:

All slots not named below

Contingent Town (I'm expecting explanations later:)

BCG
marci

Null:

MathBlade? Not sure. I have some reservations here but I will self reflect. I might move this slot back up to Town after I think about it. I feel like MathBlade is approaching the game how I did on D1 where he just can't get over BCG and I can empathize with that because this is the first gameday Math has played with them.

Scum:

Pooky
Dragons
MariaR
Furtive
__

This is where I'm at right now. The main thing that changed over the last 24 hours is I'm more trusting of MathBlade than when they repped in and I'm even less trusting of Pooky than when I voted them. Now that Pooky is posting more I'm seeing a lot of elements from their scum play and I just feel like they are playing particularly bad in a way which is unlike them as a Town!Follower. I can believe that Pooky is a Follower but not a Town one. I really doubt Pooky would out there with no guilties and exposing another TPR in the process just to appease MathBlade.

PEdit:

I thought about what you were saying Math and I self reflected and decided that Titus is Town. I think you ultimately made the right play in outing your role (because it kinda sucks without something to work with) and in getting Pooky to claim anything concrete. I think you are moving in the wrong direction toward Titus though because there are some behavioral elements you are not considering. I'm getting the impression from Titus that they are doing what they think is correct from a Town!EV perspective and I get the impression from Pooky that they are doing what they need to in order to get you on their side. I'm seeing both players exhibit some patterns from their Town and scum games respectively.

PEdit2:

@Toogle I'm pretty sure Pooky is scum/scum PR and BCG is either scum or TPR. This is why I flipped my read on BCG today, because I'm expecting something to happen later in this game. I believe BCG will be self resolving because if they do not have clear explanations later for their play then they are an obvious lim. That is the only reason why I prefer staying steady on the Pooky wagon rather than switching to BCG.

[Frogsterking]

@Frogger

I am actually thinking balance here.

Pooky’s mine and Toog’s claim (assuming I follow memes) make sense

Titus is odd ball here.

I’d prefer not to elim in invests in case I am wrong though.

Invests will sort themselves out by who dies.

I thought about what you're saying and I still think Pooky is scum and I'm not afraid to lim in investigatives. I think BCG wagon is a mistake today because he will be fairly obvious Town or scum once he claims. I think at least one of furtive/MariaR/Dragons is scum. I can probably be convinced to wagon furtive/MariaR/Dragons instead of Pooky if you feel really strong about any of those 3.

[Frogsterking]

It’s always a new excuse to avoid elimming BGC and it’s getting rather ridiculous.

That's what I was thinking until I took a real close look at their read list.

[Frogsterking]

If you say BGC will sort themselves based on claim with like no posts let’s go.

It might be best if they claimed and helped push Pooky thru tbh.

[Frogsterking]

marcistar
Save The Dragons
Charloux
MariaR
Fennec
Greeting
KittyTacky
Toogeloo
Enchant
PookyTheMagicalBear
Gamma Emerald
MalcolmTucker
Cape90
Frogsterking




SirRhett putting this dude here bc i legit havent read a single post by them


where im roughly at

I don't always explicitly state my PoE but my votes have clearly conveyed this bottom 7 as my PoE, cape has moved out tho

[Frogsterking]

Greeting: scum lock. Greeting isn't even within orbit of their town game. Their iso and vca (looking at you Titus) are probably littered with wifom because in my experience scum!greeting doesn't intend to be around too long, so don't read into their movements today as much as you usually would with a d1 red flip. Get them out today and figure out the rest tomorrow.

Yall vote Greeting who haven't already and work your way bottom up this list if you need to hit scum to win.

Good night.

RIP Greeting

PEdit:

Not sure what your point is unless you have TMI about Dragons and MariaR. I thought it made more sense when you just quoted my read on Greeting.

[Frogsterking]

you basically have the same POE you're just plugging a new player into the greeting slot

Why bring this up now? It seems reactive. I'm not really sure where you're going with this either: 2 of the slots changed and 2 of them stayed the same. That's...one of the least interesting developments which could have taken place.

[Frogsterking]

I'm going to sleep on this.

I'd love your thoughts on where we should go Pooky.

I'm happy to kill anyone on this list:

marci
Enchant
MT
BCG

My intuition is that this list contains 4 Town and you are scum!Pooky now stepping up and trying to lead a dying scum team who coasted through D1.

Elaborate on your thought process if you want to change my mind because it looks like you just chose 4 Town slots you think might be mislimmable.

[Frogsterking]

I was talking to frogsterking my bad

What do you want me to change my mind on?

i want you to reevaluate my slot and come out with the correct answer but you're obviously so confirmed bias that literally everything i do is perceived through a wolfy lens that you'll find some way to make this basic plea for rational-ness a scum tell.

What about the rest of my scum reads, furtive and MariaR? FMPOV you are just trying to survive and wagon Town. I'm open to being wrong about your slot but it would help if we agreed on somebody.

i'm not sure how i feel about 1626 by Pooky i dunno why you're spending so much time convincing us of a safe read of mathblade being town rather than trying harder to push your controversial scum read. it just seems weird.

but then again i hate everyone on the pookywagon and would rather vote anyone on it than pooky

I do read posts like this as hedgy FYI. I'm aware it could just be how you play.

[Frogsterking]

I'm not willing to vote anyone in frogster's poe because he's really good at being wrong

I'd rather vote out his townreads that I don't share

That's not an elaboration though, ya feel?

[Frogsterking]

you're loud as fuck

and nobody is really contesting you

this implies if you're town, then scum is fine with your poe

therefore your POE is garbage and we should just start limming your townreads

This kind of feels like the first 30 seconds of a process rather than where you would be at by now if you were huntin'. How/why you zero in on Enchant/MT/marci/BCG in particular?

[Frogsterking]

K, BcG claim wasn't what I was expecting. D1 play makes no sense. FoS BcG and Pooky now.

[Frogsterking]

K, BcG claim wasn't what I was expecting. D1 play makes no sense. FoS BcG and Pooky now.

I was expecting BcG to claim Masons with marci ftr

[Frogsterking]

IMO is there any reason in particular you are playing like this Math? I've seen you play better than this before. I was probably too harsh on you in your entrance.

[Frogsterking]

But, I do feel like 1633 is a less then impressive StD post regarding Pooky, also Pooky keeps being town today by the way, I am telling you that much.

We'll have to agree to disagree wrt Pooky's alignment because this is pretty bread and butter for scum!pooky FMPOV.

I can maybe get behind Dragons being marginally townier than Marci.

Where are you at now wrt furtive and BGC?

[Frogsterking]

I can maybe get behind Dragons being marginally townier than MariaR.

EBWOP

[Frogsterking]

I think Frogster’s team is excluded but I don’t see anything that excludes Maria herself

My team changed because I thought BCG was masons with marci. I haven't updated it yet.

[Frogsterking]

I think Frogster’s team is excluded but I don’t see anything that excludes Maria herself

My team changed because I thought BCG was masons with marci. I haven't updated it yet.

Marci iirc claimed invest if it helps.

I still think you’re scum for your Pooky push but consider this an olive branch.

I think you're VI for believing Pooky's claim, so glass houses.

[Frogsterking]

Marci iirc claimed invest if it helps.

Marci claimed VT on D1. You would have known this if you read the game.

[Frogsterking]

Frogsterking, do you believe Pooky guessed lucky or that he knew somehow?

I think either he or someone else is a scum!follower with a report on you. I don't believe he guessed. I also don't believe he really crumbed his role or thought you were crumbing an inno on me.

[Frogsterking]

sighs im also an invest.

tracker specifically.

but gated so i didnt get the chance to act yet, and theres more to my role.

Do you have people messed up Frog?

Yeah I had marci and MariaR mixed up.

I have no idea why you claimed, marci. I hope you are just a VT fishing for an NK.

PEdit:

I'm going to leave the thread for a while, I'm starting to get frustrated with all the claiming.

NM don't worry about visiting Pooky we're going to kill him today. Just vote him instead and do whatever you want tonight.

[Frogsterking]

PEdit:

I'm going to leave the thread for a while, I'm starting to get frustrated with all the claiming.

NM don't worry about visiting Pooky we're going to kill him today. Just vote him instead and do whatever you want tonight.

[Frogsterking]

And then Frog while we're at it because it would take two seconds for them to see the world view they're coming up with is incorrect because I'm hard pushing Pooky but Frog is either town who never thinks they're wrong and needs to go over or just a wolf and I don't think they're a bad player so wolf it is.

Toogeloo can go
Someone find me the wolves in furtiveglance/Save/MT
pedit: I'd rather we vote out scum considering the fact you're lost in the claims since scum can easily fake there claims and if you just look at this game as a game of Mafia Pooky's posts are awful.

I still don't believe everyone is telling the truth but hey we've taken up 2 pages so I'ma go to bed

VOTE: Frog

I think Frogster’s team is excluded but I don’t see anything that excludes Maria herself

My team changed because I thought BCG was masons with marci. I haven't updated it yet.

You missed 2079 Maria. I was/am rethinking my solve. I think you're playing very survival-oriented and I normally think that's scummy but I'm starting to believe it's NAI for you. I thought your Pooky and MathBlade analysis showed you are applying critical thinking about the game. You're analysis on my slot is lacking a little bit though, you missed that I was reconsidering my PoE in 2079 and you also are FoSing me because you believe I'm underthinking the game. I think you should consider that I'm Town who is overthinking the game and that's why I missed signs that your slot is Town.

[Frogsterking]

VOTE: Malcolm

I'm thinking this d00d is just Town maybe.

[Frogsterking]

Ugh fiiiine

Please shoot MathBlade for scum siding and vote Pooky. Thanks.

@Killing

Please shoot MathBlade for scum siding and vote Pooky. Thanks.

[Frogsterking]

furtiveglance - gated, loyal, voyeuristic, investigative Vanilla Townie

VOTE: furtive

I'm

rolecop

and I have a report on furtive which indicates they're some kind of weird roleblocker. I'll dig up the actual report in a second.

I FoS Pooky and BcG. Maybe MathBlade for pushing this dumb plan --which fails to see a single roleblock-- so hard. I wouldn't be sad to see MathBlade killed by a vig. Pooky's claim doesn't fit with my role and Pooky is sus anyway. I also think BcG is sus.

[Frogsterking]

Why are you so against this 4 way check going through?

If you're Town you really F'ed up by having the listening acumen of a block of concrete.

[Frogsterking]

Why are you so against this 4 way check going through?

If you're Town you really F'ed up by having the listening acumen of a block of concrete.

Next time someone suspicious claims a role and someone who is obvtown says "I don't believe them" 500x times, shut up and listen for 2 seconds.

[Frogsterking]

My N1 report on furtive indicates novice JOAT (roleblocker, alien, tracker).

[Frogsterking]

I don't believe schadd put a rolecop and a follower in the same alignment. They functionally do the same damn thing. I think 1 is Town and 1 is scum.

[Frogsterking]

My N1 report on furtive indicates novice JOAT (roleblocker, alien, tracker).

Furtive's real role.

[Frogsterking]

I want Pooky and/or BcG and/or MathBlade shot tonight. I won't tell you which claim I'm investigating.

PEdit

What conditions? I have unlimited shots and no gateway.

[Frogsterking]

To be fair it's probably better to shoot Pooky rather than BcG or MathBlade.

[Frogsterking]

I can't trust Frogsterking as much as I used to. Regardless, I can't see scum!Frogster faking a guilty on town!furtiveglance so furtiveglance is still the play.

Reasonable.

[Frogsterking]

PSA

:

My guilty on furtive (Fennec) is dedicated in memory of Greeting. Sorry for leading on you Greeting. RIP.

[Frogsterking]

So why does Frog want Pooky or me to die when he can get very likely conf alignment tomorrow?

Because I watched you be effortlessly manipulated by Pooky and a part of me doesn't believe you will ever actually vote him.

[Frogsterking]

PSA

:

My guilty on furtive (Fennec) is dedicated in memory of Greeting. Sorry for leading on you Greeting. RIP.

It's not a guilty. I never agreed to massclaiming.

Bullshit.

[Frogsterking]

If I have a guilty I will vote him.

Okay.

[Frogsterking]

I have no notes btw,

Scum tell. Nobody asked for notes.

[Frogsterking]

Is it inconceivable to you that a player with my role wouldn't want to claim

YOU CLAIMED VT

[Frogsterking]

The sketch vibes from furtive are intense!

[Frogsterking]

i think furtive sounds like scum

Vote please?

I want out of this day...

+1

[Frogsterking]

I should update my reads before Day ends. Do you think I made it clear that I don't trust Pooky or BcG?

[Frogsterking]

Oh, but Math. They are claiming Invest. Shouldn't we keep them alive to test them?

Burned

[Frogsterking]

Science indicates furtiveglance and Pooky are mafia.

[Frogsterking]

Frog, I am going to check in my pool of 1954.

Go elsewhere please.

Okay.

[Frogsterking]

hi furtive gib reads so i can steal them

Town: You, Charloux, Chungus, Frog

Sus: Enchant, Gamma, Malcolm, Pooky, everyone else in the lobby

Here's my reads from pages 1 to 30. If you have any questions, direct them to BigChungusGaming@gmail.not, which I am now volunteering to be part of.

Up to page 5 reads:

Spoiler:

Frogster

Cape90

Charloux

Marci

Malcolm

Gamma

Nero

Up to page 10:

Spoiler:

MariaR

Frogster

Cape90

Charloux

SirRhett

Marci

Gamma

Malcolm

Greeting

Nero

Up to 15:

Spoiler:

MariaR

Frogster

Cape90

Charloux

SaveTheDragons

Marci

SirRhett

KittyTacky

Nero

Gamma

Toogeloo

Malcolm

Greeting

Up to 20:

Spoiler:

MariaR

Marci

Frogster

SaveTheDragons

Cape90

Big Chungus

Charloux

SirRhett

KittyTacky

Nero

Gamma

Pooky

Toogeloo

Malcolm

Greeting

Up to 25:

Spoiler:

MariaR

Marci

Big Chungus

Frogster

SaveTheDragons

Cape90

Charloux

KittyTacky

SirRhett

Pooky

Enchant

Gamma

Toogeloo

Malcolm

Greeting

Up to 30:

Spoiler:

MariaR

Marci

Big Chungus

Frogster

KittyTacky

SaveTheDragons

Cape90

Pooky

Charloux

KittyTacky

SirRhett

Gamma

Enchant

Toogeloo

Greeting

Malcolm

Let the records show

[Frogsterking]

What do the records show

I don't know yet...but I will find out

[Frogsterking]

What do the records show

I don't know yet...but I will find out

Is this how the legal system works @ Titus?

[Frogsterking]

I would like an expert witness to give an opinion on any suspects incriminated by furtive's D1 read lists in 2383.

[Frogsterking]

I sentence furtiveglance to execution by being blown up. May God have mercy on your soul. I hearby appoint Enchant and NM as executioners.

Tomorrow we will hold trial for PookytheMagicalBear. If I am deceased then Titus will inherit my position as Town judge/rolecop.

[Frogsterking]

reviewed by: isis & ausuka

@math

Does this have any indications about the setup spec?

[Frogsterking]

Can you talk about your Malcolm read a little bit Titus? I think he draws a lot of suspicion in his Town play and I feel like he is going to flip Town based off what he's written. I've misread him once before so I'm open to being wrong, but he is kinda different than that game I misread him.

[Frogsterking]

Math I still don't know why you think Pooky is Town. His ISO is extremely scummy.

[Frogsterking]

I think you have an established tendency to tunnel Pooky way too much Frog,

Nah, you can have your opinion but you don't have enough data points to claim that your opinion is established.

[Frogsterking]

Like if NM town Pooky scum Pooky will be dead unless one shot BP.
If scum try to shoot Pooky to fake NMs shot then I get the result of 1 killing and 1 protective and no second shot which itself is sus but I doubt NM doesn’t back out in scum NM world when he had the chance

Like scum Pooky should be the least of your concerns.

I thought NM was joking though?

[Frogsterking]

And in the one shot BP world BCG ‘s visit won’t show

Just breathe and let things develop.

If Furtive is scum I doubt scum have two roleblockers here so patience.

Scum will have to pick which poison.

BcG is probably scum too though? Does that change anything?

[Frogsterking]

Pooky's ISO looks nothing like Lost. I have no idea what you're talking about.

[Frogsterking]

Pooky was one of the highest activity posters D1 in Lost and was actively sorting people. I think the similarities only exist in your imagination.

[Frogsterking]

Pooky's ISO looks nothing like Lost. I have no idea what you're talking about.

And I have no idea why you say they’re different. Agree to disagree?

No. Just look at how much Pooky posted D1in Lost compared to here. There is no similarity. You weren't actively sorting people D1 in Lost because u were scum and that was months ago. I think you got your wires crossed at some point.

[Frogsterking]

Pooky was one of the highest activity posters D1 in Lost and was actively sorting people. I think the similarities only exist in your imagination.

I think a good majority of D1 lost posts were jokes.

Take those out and it’s about the same ratio of content.

I legit don’t get why you’re still hampering on Pooky.

It’s really antitown at this point. We just disagree. That’s okay.

No it really isn't antiTown because I don't believe you are familiar with Pooky's D1 ISO in Lost at all. You're pushing misinformation by claiming that they're similar. You can have your opinion but if you present misinformation as fact to support your opinion, I will call you out on it.

[Frogsterking]

Here's a completely random excerpt from Pooky's D1 ISO in Lost. Let me know if you can spot any differences to his D1 ISO here:

my way too early townlist is:

Dunnstral
Malcolm
Bell
Klick
Cat Scratch Fever
Toogeloo

I make no representations about accuracy but I didn't bullshit any of these I think.

oh snap forgot to add my main man Pengy

he should be on there I think.


Cult Recruitment Drive 1.0:

Pengy
Dunnstral
Malcolm
Bell
Klick
Cat Scratch Fever
Toogeloo


If you're on the above list, congrats you received a Townread of DUBIOUS accuracy and I will be recruiting you into my awesome cult for at least today.

This will entitle you to the following perks:

(1) Your choice of COLOR in the OFFICIAL PAGETOP SCOREBOARD
(2) A Nickname picked out by me[Please let me know if you want to opt out or if you do not like your nickname]
(3) Extremely well written fanfiction about your exploits on the Island[Please let me know if you want to opt out]
(4) Premium Front Row Seats to a Day One Bandwagon of Pooky's Choice[First Come First Serve, Suggestions Welcome!]
(5) Your profile picture edited into memes that may or may not accurately represent things that happened in the game.

you have to do something townie first dude

i agree that it seems fake af but have u ever played with rh9

that dude loves to talk. literally nonstop all the time. i dont understand he would decide to fake a pr that limits his ability to talk. it feels super anti fun.

true

we should let Cephrir live through today because policying him on d1 every time just because he's always scum feels very unsporting and mean and we love Ceph

also am I biased here but he seemed way townier in ktane or was that just because I was informed of his alignment that game

I'm reading my interaction with Galron as SvT.

this is such a weird line

who ever even says shit like this?

like it's self evident that you are town then the other person is scum, so just call Galron scum for ???? reasons

ngl i think a reason he says this is cuz he thinks he's going to die today cuz I said I was going to feed him to the polar bears and now he's trying to anti-spew his scumbuddy Galron clear with a lolnonsense argument that doesn't even make sense

I'm told Luke's scum game is scary but equally he's had some good takes. I think he's probably a net positive on the game state.

Bruh Luke is an expert at writing "good takes" as scum

but he's not a day one issue

So 17 pages have happened since I went to work.

That's always nice. Got some reading to do. Or not. See how I feel.

this feels like something scum say sometimes

dunno if anyone has meta on this person

dude I've been giving you a pass cuz you sound rusty

wow this dragon is on fireeeeee

this sounds like a vicious cycle

lol @ all the people claiming frogster is geniune

dudes

this is what frogster town in the last large theme I played with him sounded like:

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... er_sort=Go

he sounds literally nothing like that right now.

his posts sound like they r copypastas that he found somewhere and randomly started pasting into the thread.

This is as freaky as if one of the people was speaking english on the plane and landed and suddenly started speaking chinese instead.

um frogster!town in ktane was so inflexible with his reads he literally blew up a claimed innocent child and then claimed afterwards that the dead IC was a changeling

we did just play the same game with the dude right?

winning/losing has nothing to do with your ability/skill

I am definitely your father Luke

I am definitely your father Luke

And you still won't let me into your cult?

Rude.

tough love

p sure half the characters in the show are philosophers

wasnt he scum with you two

i should know since I was number 4 LOL THANKS FOR THE CARRY BELL

I don't remember ever seeing Luke as scum. They look a lot like town to me.

I liked Enchant's posts. I agree that it is a waste of time to try to solve the 100 post player today. I think they are likely to be town, too.

Not sure what Bellaphant doesn't like about my posts. And while I'm talking about Bellaphant, she said she would give Roden a pass for today because their image made her laugh. I don't intend to give anyone a pass, except the 100 post player who I personally feel would be a bad elimination target today.

Toogeloo is the third player (at least) to not realize that flavor and alignment are divorced from each other, or to fake that.

my rule for reading luke is as follows:

the more townie the dude looks

the more likely he is to be a scumbag

i've never seen a scumbag get townread so much as scum and scumread so much as town its absolutely wild

So I should vote Luke? That doesn't seem right

nah I would never wagon luke right away i'd feel bad about that shit

i'm just saying if its getting late in the game and dude looks townie as fuck and for some weird reason he's

not dying at night

you should probly yeet him immediately

I don't think there is anything worth responding to as far as my wagon goes, Pooky thinks I'm copy pasting my posts, Johnny was a naked vote, Galron's push was wolfy, etc.

I think Pooky, Malcolm and Luke are the most likely to be genuinely wrong about my alignment.

I'm glad you stopped copy pasting posts dude

hey I make memes about the Animal Police Department when I'm town too

oh snap i wasn't even trying to get that one

hey I make memes about the Animal Police Department when I'm town too

But you don’t usually glut the thread with them. You also don’t sound like you’re trying to pocket the playerlist.

Says Nancy as she falls deeper into my pocket :>

I think she's fine so far

bruh after catboi flipped as an IC your response was to swear he was a

changeling

and the mod was trolling us with a bastard game...

I absolutely do not believe you somehow developed humility rofl

Half truths aside,
I dunno. I've never been able to read Galron and my default desire is to auto-kill them.
I've played with Frogster once. I don't like Pooky's push there because it's insane when you think about it. But I'm happy to let it sit.
Mostly I just keep getting tempted to slap Frog's ego down. Which I tend to think is a town thing. But I dunno. I don't know frog that well.

I think Bell not liking me pushing Frogster only increases the odds that Frogster will flip scum here

I wish I could vote 5-8 people right now.

You could always just put a list of people you'd be willing to vote for instead of actually voting

Right now I'm around here:

Cult Recruitment 1.1:

PenguinPower
Dunnstral
Malcolm
Bell
Klick
Cat Scratch Fever
Toogeloo
T-Bone
Cytosine and Guanine (Ircher and RH9)


On the Waitlist:
Dancing Puppets (Nancy Drew 39 and Titus)
Malakittens
Off the Hook (Gamma Emerald and Marcistar)
Roden
Rad
The toad
Enchant
Dwlee99
Bellaphant
Lukewarm


Willing to Feed to Polar Bears:

Cephrir
JohnnyFarrar
Corwinoid
BlueBloodedToffee
Galron
Frogsterking

And no in case anyone is wondering I wasn't scum in Lost, so the claim that I have an established tendency to tunnel Pooky is ???

If anything we have an established tendency to tunnel each other, but we've only played like 2 games together so it's a pretty stupid claim either way.

[Frogsterking]

It was mentioned earlier in thread you were this level of sure Pooky was scum when he wasn’t.

I legit don’t get your point here.

We are elimming Furtive today.

It’s established you really really really think Pooky is scum.

What goal are you trying to accomplish when if Pooky is scum he’s likely dead?

You claimed that Pooky's D1 ISO in Lost is similar to his D1 ISO in this game and then suggested we "agree to disagree" and instead I'm supplying incontrovertible evidence that no, Pooky is not playing "slow to start" this game "like he did in Lost." He isn't playing anything at all like he did D1 in Lost. You're opinion is valid but none of the reasons you have supplied (thus far) to defend your opinion are valid. Pooky's role doesn't fit with the setup as Town!aligned since Town already has 2 role cops unless I'm just completely snowed by Titus, I don't have an "established tendency" to tunnel Pooky, and Pooky's ISO looks nothing like his ISO from the Town game you claimed he is replicating here. So far, FMPOV I can't give you credit for anything other than a gut read that Pooky is Town, because each of your rationale that you've provided have been easily shot down. There's nothing wrong with having a gut read that Pooky is Town but I don't share that gut read and you aren't doing a good job convincing me to change my mind, and I hope no one else is being convinced by you either because you are claiming things which are factually untrue in order to make your read appear more logical than it is.

[Frogsterking]

You're opinion is valid but none of the reasons you have supplied (thus far) to defend your opinion are valid. Pooky's role doesn't fit with the setup as Town!aligned since Town already has 2 role cops unless I'm just completely snowed by Titus, I don't have an "established tendency" to tunnel Pooky, and Pooky's ISO looks nothing like his ISO from the Town game you claimed he is replicating here. So far, FMPOV I can't give you credit for anything other than a gut read that Pooky is Town, because each of your rationale that you've provided have been easily shot down.

[Frogsterking]

What the fuck happened while I was gone

Tldr
Furtive claimed VT
Frog claimed rolecop with result Furtive is Joat with RB Alien and tracker
For some reason furtive isn’t already hammered

The VT claim was an obvious joke. D:<

You have been sentenced to execution.

You are encouraged to post a reads list with explanations.

[Frogsterking]

1 scum - you. Town never has Rolecops, Mafia do.

I was a Town rolecop in Lost.

[Frogsterking]

1 scum - you. Town never has Rolecops, Mafia do.

I was a Town rolecop in Lost.

Still, the way you've used it to earn a miscondemn here. If you were town you'd have kept quiet

Do you scum read Pooky?

[Frogsterking]

1 scum - you. Town never has Rolecops, Mafia do.

I was a Town rolecop in Lost.

Still, the way you've used it to earn a miscondemn here. If you were town you'd have kept quiet

Do you scum read Pooky?

No

Okay where is your read list?

[Frogsterking]

I feel like town!furtive would scum read Pooky here.

[Frogsterking]

Furtive read list:
Town:

Pooky

Scum:

Frog
Toogle

If you were Town you wouldn't be afraid to share what you really think.

[Frogsterking]

I'm becoming really confbiased that it's furtive

[Frogsterking]

It's getting really hard for me to parse furtive's posts with how confbiased I'm becoming

[Frogsterking]

I'm becoming really confbiased that it's furtive

Lamist

https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?ti ... 8.2B1.5.29

Man I'm so confbiased that it's furtive I'm having a really difficult time being objective.

[Frogsterking]

Furtive read list:
Town:

Pooky
Cape

??
MathBlade

Scum:

Frog
Toogle

If you were Town you wouldn't be afraid to share what you really think.

I'm not afraid, I just don't know. I massively townread MathBlade and now he's locking me in to be the elim in a way that doesn't feel right.

Cape is probably town.

What about Dragons and BcG?

[Frogsterking]

Furtive is scum frozen Aaaaaaahhh gottem

[Frogsterking]

UNVOTE: furtive

I want to hear more about your reads on Dragons and BcG tbh

[Frogsterking]

UNVOTE: furtive

I want to hear more about your reads on Dragons and BcG tbh

Also I want to hear more about your Cape Townread, furtive. *chucks olive branch at furtive*

[Frogsterking]

Silence in the court, Pooky. Furtive is currently testifying on his own behalf. Continue to interject your frog hate speech and I will hold you in contempt of court. Your trial is on D3.

[Frogsterking]

Spoiler:

vote count 1.7 !

Big Chungus Gaming (4):

KittyTacky, PookyTheMagicalBear, Toogeloo, Frogsterking

Save The Dragons (3):

Gamma Emerald, Charloux, Enchant

Frogsterking (3):

Greeting, Big Chungus Gaming, Save The Dragons

MalcolmTucker (1):

MariaR

Cape90 (1):

SirRhett

Toogeloo (1):

marcistar

Enchant (1):

Cape90

not voting (2):

MalcolmTucker, Fennec

with 16 alive, it takes 9 to blow someone up. day 1 ends in (expired on 2022-10-12 15:00:00)

modorator notes

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Furtive
Dragons
Pooky
MariaR

Is disproven by the D1 greeting wagon

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p13520704 1.9 (sorry mobile)

That scum team for the most part lurks. A surprise wagon on lurker Greeting would bring a lot of heat and be town driven and Pooky plops on.

Pooky isn’t one to do something without believing it helps him town or scum.

So since Pooky thought switching from BGC to greeting despite it 4 and 4 and both being town in that world.

That doesn’t add up to me.

I'm feeling a Pooky+Dragons+furtive+BCG scum team right about now.

VOTE: furtive

[Frogsterking]

Furtiveglance has been sentenced to execution by being blown up.

[Frogsterking]

I'd be perfectly content with a Furtive elimination at this point as well from a brief catch-up. Their jokey/playful tone doesn't feel natural and sounds more like scum to me trying to dodge suspicion by looking like they don't care, without having to particularly commit to reads.

Vote for me then, get your hands dirty.

How many votes are you at? I'm wary because it seems you've accumulated a good few and we have some notorious quickhammer players in the game. If it's settled to eliminate you though I'm more than happy to hammer.

ur literally scum

Can you elaborate on your feelings toward Malcolm, marci?