Newbie 1351: Hyrule's Under Attack.. Interesting..-GAME OVER

[fferyllt]

feryl you're up...or am I taking that post to be a VT claim?

I'd rather start with someone you have doubts about. If that's me I'll go.

[Ineffective]

I nominate mac

[VisceraEyes]

I'm fine with Mac claiming next. I just wanted we three to have claimed but it doesn't really matter.

[fferyllt]

I can go after Mac. Would kinda like GiF to go too, though.

[Ineffective]

Ffer holding he r cards close for now seems appropriate... If she is pr this could result in 4 pr claims and a pair of direct ccs... Is she is VT. That frees gif up to claim PR

[Ineffective]

Ya id like to see mac and gif next idc which order

[Ineffective]

I only claimed bc i was obvious VT anyways

[VisceraEyes]

Any reason you're scanning for PRs Inef? Is that just something you do?

[Ineffective]

I try to avoid putting pressure on PRS also it helps POE sometimes... The more information you have as any alignment the better off you are

[VisceraEyes]

But it's not information it's speculation and having preconceived notions about how people should be playing....I just can't see it as a boon to helping you find scum. In fact it seems like it'd be more of a hinderance than anything.

Conversely I can certainly see a scum motivation for trying to discern whether people are PRs or not through their posts.

[fferyllt]

It's something I automatically do. I'm better after I have a baseline on a player, unless they're fairly new to mafia, in which case I can sometimes spot a PR in my first game with them. That's pretty muddied in environments where all the players are new to me, though.

pedit yeah not pressuring, misdirecting, wifoming scum by subtly deferring to someone I think is VT when town. when scum, I ignore the shit out of PRs until nightfall. Here, all that is still meaningless and useless effort because I don't have a rep (and haven't earned one) for spotting PRs consistently.

[Ineffective]

Lets say for instance i dont have a pr read on GM and push on him and he claims PR... in that not so theoretical scenario i dont unvote....

lets say im tempted to push on GIF for reactions, but i have a pr claim on him and even think he might be a cop... I will be more hesitant to push on him...

In my experience with fast paced games this helps A SHIT TON

[Ineffective]

But i have a pr READ on him *

[Mac]

I'm a VT.

I'd like GiF to go next, but whatever you guys want is cool with me

[VisceraEyes]

Okay that makes sense explained that way. It takes a pretty fucking accurate gauge to be effective, but I can see what you're saying.

[Ineffective]

Ya and if mac didnt claim vt id instavote him... Theres another reason

[Ineffective]

Okay that makes sense explained that way. It takes a pretty fucking accurate gauge to be effective, but I can see what you're saying.

You are touching on the reason for my nickname here... The same strats that can be extremely effective can also be very.... Ineffective

[fferyllt]

Okay that makes sense explained that way. It takes a pretty fucking accurate gauge to be effective, but I can see what you're saying.

Yeah it does. I'm not sure my gauge will ever get accurate enough to be as effective in this environment, though I've had a couple of promising sightings here and there.

[Mac]

Okay that makes sense explained that way. It takes a pretty fucking accurate gauge to be effective, but I can see what you're saying.

Agree with this, there are atleast 3 people in the game who I felt were definitely not PRs from their posts but I never considered anyone a possible pr. mainly cos I didn't look.

[Ineffective]

Okay that makes sense explained that way. It takes a pretty fucking accurate gauge to be effective, but I can see what you're saying.

Yeah it does. I'm not sure my gauge will ever get accurate enough to be as effective in this environment, though I've had a couple of promising sightings here and there.

My modus operandi has always been... Pretend like you know what you are doing until you actually do

[VisceraEyes]

Okay that makes sense explained that way. It takes a pretty fucking accurate gauge to be effective, but I can see what you're saying.

Yeah it does. I'm not sure my gauge will ever get accurate enough to be as effective in this environment, though I've had a couple of promising sightings here and there.

My modus operandi has always been... Pretend like you know what you are doing until you actually do

Yeah that's kinda where I'm at usually too. Personal thing that carries over from my real life attitude for better or worse...

[Ineffective]

Im gunna go troll my old site and wait for more claims

[VisceraEyes]

my nightmare scenario is that you two are the scum and have hardcore buddied me. but, I can't for the life of me see Carey and Eye as scumbuddies. Eye didn't look nearly sophisticated enough at mafia to start bussing his scum partner the way he went after Carey. And Carey's replace-out did not look like scum-flake.

In any case i want to meta VE to see if he is good at replicating the butthurt towny expression that i saw him as town for--- before this happens

I'm pretty good at replicating almost any townie interaction as scum...but I can assure you the butthurt you sensed was genuine.

[Ineffective]

Man if you are scum--- im up against a more sophisticated version of myself and that scares the shit out of me

[VisceraEyes]

Nah Occams Razor dude. I'm also much more lurky in general as scum and it's just much easier if you accept the obvious conclusion - that I'm town and not fucking with you.