Posted: Sun May 26, 2013 8:22 am
Like I said at the time of me just voting when I wasn't near the hammer I decided that was what I was happy to do. After the Malcolm and me unvote I changed my mind. Is that not allowed?
No I didn't.In post 2001, Mutleyddmc wrote:You ignored my bet idea desp?
What you don't understand is that changing your mind is precisely why you're scum, becauseIn post 2000, Mutleyddmc wrote:Like I said at the time of me just voting when I wasn't near the hammer I decided that was what I was happy to do. After the Malcolm and me unvote I changed my mind. Is that not allowed?
In post 2005, Desperado wrote:What you don't understand is that changing your mind is precisely why you're scum, becauseIn post 2000, Mutleyddmc wrote:Like I said at the time of me just voting when I wasn't near the hammer I decided that was what I was happy to do. After the Malcolm and me unvote I changed my mind. Is that not allowed?given your behavior, changing your mind only benefits you if you are scum. If you are town your actions simultaneously cost us a lynch AND made you even scummier.
PEdit: I've said everything I had to say about it.
this just reeks of scum.In post 2009, Mutleyddmc wrote:It's not really irrelevant because its the truth. Not my fault that my change of mind is a scum tell.
When? The only time that Malcolm really seemed like a legitimate lynch choice was right before GCBC got triple powerbombed. As the day came to a close, Goat and Mutley were the only two viable choices. Why would Goat vote for Malcolm at that time? How is Goat failing to vote for Malcolm viewed as him "protecting" Malcolm when Malcolm was in no danger and a vote for him would have accomplished nothing?In post 1966, MonkeyMan576 wrote:The fact that you voted Mutley rather than Malcolm gives the impression that you are protecting him.
How is a Sven vote counterproductive?In post 1983, Mac wrote:Desp its a good point you make that my vote should be on sven technically but at this stage I feel it would be pretty counter productive to do so. Gonna wait and see what the replacement says.
Yes.In post 1984, ferretlover wrote:Is there a replacement for Sven yet?
Explain how this is a Town mindset. Explain how your presence is helping the Town reach its win condition.In post 1986, Mutleyddmc wrote:I decided I was enjoying the challenge of this game so gave myself every possible chance to last longer. That meant only putting the hammer down.
If you like playing this game so much and you're having so much fun, why are you still insisting that you'll hammer yourself if the opportunity presents itself?In post 1999, Mutleyddmc wrote:Ferret because I have said many times I decided at that point I also like this game so would only hammer and not put myself at l-1
In post 2014, Darthe wrote:I would legitimitely vote mutley just to get people to shut the hell up about him and because he is being a retard..
If Mutley could pull off a gambit like that as scum, he wouldn't be so shitty at keeping people from voting him.In post 1893, Amethyst Actor wrote:Nacho, I'm not sure if I can buy your reason for thinking Mutley is town. You know that the Survival tell, or lack of it, is one of my favorite in determining alignment but I'm thinking that the way he tried to pull it off was a means to try and get people off his back. I'm not sold on the genuineness of that entire spiel.
(joke)In post 1896, Skullduggery wrote:I think maybe you're giving yourself a little too much credit.
You don't; I do.In post 1896, Skullduggery wrote:Krab is ridiculously scummy but Mutley is Town as shit...even though they're occupying the same slot. How does that work? Why such a drastic change in opinion? I don't see what Mutley has done to atone for Krab's scummy behavior.
My main account is Ravenpaw.In post 1907, Ravenpaw wrote:Fun fact: the "Lynch all liars" motto is actually a shortened version of "Lynch all liars but Ms Marangal because she will lie as either alignment"
I think he's town too but I want to see who hops on the easy wagon.In post 1914, Amethyst Actor wrote:Nacho/Kise, care to give mom your thoughts on Ferret?
I liked that you looked into his meta. Malcolm will stand united with his brothers, especially when they are being voted for their ethnicity.In post 1917, ferretlover wrote:Mutley's Meta:
Definitely hard to read.
Just found out Mutley is African so the English is a second/third language.
There was confidence in mutley town, not Goat scum. Goat scum was a kise-ordered lynch that I liked yesterday. I'm not so sure I like it today, so I'm giving him room.In post 1927, Skullduggery wrote:And yet, you were confident enough that Goat was Scum to push for his lynch over Mutley's at the end of day one. Where did that confidence go?
If this is coming from scum, I'll really kill Goat.In post 1938, ferretlover wrote:You said you were African. So now you're saying that you were lying?In post 1534, Mutleyddmc wrote: Me mutleyddmc the guy they say is from jamaica but really I am from africa, Kofi kingston
Where is your catchup post? Did I miss it?In post 1947, penguin_alien wrote:Yet you're voting xMalcolmx. And I don't see how this works, that because Goat should be voting Malcolm, the latter is scummier than the former. Looks opportunistic to me, having failed to push a viable case on Malcolm before. This kind of singular focus with shaky reasoning reminds me of scum-MonkeyMan576.
He replaced out because he was bored.In post 1963, Nero Cain wrote:no one else finds this strange? Not even Goat or Despo replaced out and I argued with them more.
Probably not scum though.In post 2006, Mac wrote:the last > i've listed is pretty selfish and anti-town, sadly.
Yes, what difference it makes? And why are trying to who is from where...and that whole african conversation.In post 1912, ferretlover wrote:Most of the player list is inactive, so only giving tells on active people wouldn't work.
@AA9, this has nothing to do with the game and I don't want to distract you, but you live in India?
Malcolm had six or seven votes on him at one point before the daykill(including Goat). Then after the vote reset Goat's first vote was an OMGUS against Nero. This looks very opportunistic to me.Skull wrote: When? The only time that Malcolm really seemed like a legitimate lynch choice was right before GCBC got triple powerbombed. As the day came to a close, Goat and Mutley were the only two viable choices. Why would Goat vote for Malcolm at that time? How is Goat failing to vote for Malcolm viewed as him "protecting" Malcolm when Malcolm was in no danger and a vote for him would have accomplished nothing?
Why do you think he is attacking two strong town players, and why do you think those two players are town?In post 1854, Darthe wrote:First and foremost, two votes on two strong town players this game. I would also like to note before I get into this that Ferret knows how to play mafia, and is not new to the game despite being new to site. This is important to note because he is making clearly basic mistakes and seems to be playing up his newness and experience simultaneously.
I tell people to stop being stupid when they're being stupid regardless of my alignment. What is ferret doing as scum?In post 1854, Darthe wrote:Here we see something not overtly scummy. However, it is notable because this is a player setting themselves up as a median.
Different mindset; that doesn't mean scum. Unless you think that he's experienced scum who is confident that he can change the opinion of the site meta while maintaining the image of the innocent newbie, it's not that good of a tell; it's just wrong. Early reveals are good in formats where plurality lynch rules and majority doesn't always go through because scum always like to claim near the end of the day so they can grab a few panic unvotes and not be in fear of being counterclaimed.In post 1854, Darthe wrote:Random discusson about a breadcrumb and is arguing that early reveals are pro-town because of their effect on wigggle room? How did this slide?
I sort of agree with the submissive part, but that's distinctly a newscum scumtell and inconsistent with the rest of your case.In post 1854, Darthe wrote:See now, this is why I called that earlier thing bullshanks (refer to {1}), because he has yet to vote anyone else and voted her on the policy of...pretty much nothing by his own admission?.. and then he is being submissive towards her.
Just because you don't understand him doesn't mean that an explanation exists. I've never seen someone with a "I don't know what he's saying, thus scum" case actually hit scum.In post 1854, Darthe wrote:And then he votes Goat. It's been a while here, but pressure is off him and goat is getting traction so this is a vote "for being drunk". That is four throwaways in a row, not somethng I feel happens from townies, especially not ones who seem so involved in the game. Why is this person not casing or advocating anyone? Why does he not have reads? Why is he playing an erratic game? To avoid looking too false. That is literally the only reason that I can come up with that makes any sense, because for someone who "can't reply to the big pile of questions/casing/etc" made against him he is remarkably active.. and unfocused.
OK. So you think that this inconsistent thought process is coming from him because he's pretending to be bad? But, why play like that anyways? Why not just play well as scum?In post 1854, Darthe wrote:Defending? Before you voted him for being drunk, then you said he appeared genuinely drunk (forgot to quote guys, sorry), now you're defending him for drunkenness because the act of intoxication somehow makes someones statements less likely to reflect their alignment in your eyes? This is again contrary with various things ferret stated before regarding his views on playrs, playstyle, scumminess, and the like. It doesn't add up at all for a player who is not inexperienced.
I see so much "this is bad" but not enough "this is scum". You haven't been helping town worth shit and now you're flying after an easy target.In post 1854, Darthe wrote:In summation, this is why Ferret stuck out to me. He is trying to get by, but not helping town. While others are doing so as well his reads to me as the most false and manipulative example.