1542: Book of Shadows Vol. 1 ~ Game Over


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Post Post #2000 (ISO) » Mon Mar 17, 2014 11:43 am

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In post 1998, Nero Cain wrote:I think its lylo and we still have a few days so I'm not in a rush. I also wanted to hear others opinions 'cause now that I can post more I can actully get some disscussion going.
PS this is why ProHawk needs to die--he's been slipping all day that he knows his death doesn't end the game (because he's scum).

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Post Post #2001 (ISO) » Mon Mar 17, 2014 11:50 am

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Look at you sucking up to Nero, Tell me Messiah, what kinda tricks do you think you have up your sleeve to win this thing? You are DEAD after I flip.
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Post Post #2002 (ISO) » Mon Mar 17, 2014 11:54 am

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In post 2001, ProHawk wrote:Look at you sucking up to Nero, Tell me Messiah, what kinda tricks do you think you have up your sleeve to win this thing? You are DEAD after I flip.
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Please die now.

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Post Post #2003 (ISO) » Mon Mar 17, 2014 11:55 am

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Preferably dead before I flip, but I find that a hard and futile battle considering he has to convince one scum and/or one town that is death-tunneling me.
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Post Post #2004 (ISO) » Mon Mar 17, 2014 11:56 am

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In post 2002, Messiah Complex wrote:Please die now.
You should have night-killed me instead of deciding it would be a good idea to 1v1 me.
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Post Post #2005 (ISO) » Mon Mar 17, 2014 2:22 pm

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In post 1977, ProHawk wrote:And how about you explain this "pseudo-miller" claim? Nero didn't confirm them town, and Mastin didn't explain it when you asked but decided to answer a different question about flavor which I find to be far-fetched anyway, more along the lines of Mod gave me a fake-claim but didn't put flavor with it.
I agree that they are not talking about it and that is what's leaving me here not voting.
In post 1986, Nero Cain wrote:So yeah...anyways FMPOV these posts don't look like you wanting to talk. We are also in possible lylo (unless the 2nd kill is a third party) so you could easily cast doubt on me and then hammer me all easy like. So lets do some talking today while I'm still here. Whats your theory on the 2nd kill n1 and why shouldn't I think its from you?
I don't think you know what titillated means and I also think it's kind of awkward to suggest I was pushing on you when you are V/LA when I didn't start pushing on you until you promised you'd chat with me tomorrow. You were the one who made the promise, I didn't suddenly just start pushing at you for no reason.
In post 1990, Nero Cain wrote:an MC/Mastin team isn't impossible either and with prohawk NOT being hammered yet it lends some cred to the theory of scum already siting on him (if he's not scum himself.) Either way all these point to MC being scum.
So I'm taking this as "not confirming masons with Mastin"

@Mastin - what about your role was a counter to my role?
In post 1994, Nero Cain wrote:So does Mastin and NmantS still needs to explain why SG's pr makes it town.
Mastin is claiming his role makes me more likely scum, not the opposite. though she does seem to have forgotten that she suspected me in her most recent comments. That or her read changed...and I don't think the gamestate changed at all betwixt and between, so it's an odd shift.

What PR are you claiming, Nero?
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Post Post #2006 (ISO) » Mon Mar 17, 2014 4:54 pm

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In post 1998, Nero Cain wrote:I think its lylo
Does either Shrimp or Mastin or Squirrel deny this possibility?
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Post Post #2007 (ISO) » Mon Mar 17, 2014 5:47 pm

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hmm. starting to believe prohawk and not believe MC.

sorry NS, gonna do this for now, till we chat again
UNVOTE: prohawk

thinking MC's last 2 posts look especially bad. last post moreso
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Post Post #2008 (ISO) » Mon Mar 17, 2014 5:47 pm

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plus nero might have a point about MC being the odd claim out
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Post Post #2009 (ISO) » Mon Mar 17, 2014 5:48 pm

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MC & mastin ?
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Post Post #2010 (ISO) » Mon Mar 17, 2014 5:49 pm

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In post 2001, ProHawk wrote:Look at you sucking up to Nero, Tell me Messiah, what kinda tricks do you think you have up your sleeve to win this thing? You are DEAD after I flip.
for example, this looks very much town^
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Post Post #2011 (ISO) » Mon Mar 17, 2014 9:02 pm

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In post 2006, ProHawk wrote:Does either Shrimp or Mastin or Squirrel deny this possibility?
I think with a poisoner it could potentially be. It also could not be. I'm willing to consider both possibilities.
In post 2007, scienceshrimp wrote:thinking MC's last 2 posts look especially bad. last post moreso
Any particular reason?
In post 2009, scienceshrimp wrote:MC & mastin ?
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Post Post #2012 (ISO) » Mon Mar 17, 2014 9:05 pm

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because it looks like he doesn't have any fight in him. (on MC's part)
is that pic indicating that you agree?
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Post Post #2013 (ISO) » Mon Mar 17, 2014 9:07 pm

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prohawk looks like he's arguing from honesty...
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Post Post #2014 (ISO) » Mon Mar 17, 2014 9:08 pm

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ya, MC and mastin.
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Post Post #2015 (ISO) » Mon Mar 17, 2014 9:09 pm

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I think the best argument for ProHawk town is that Nero probably has a point with the Vanilla count (depending on what he ever gets around to claiming) and also that we are probably PR heavy. With a PR heavy setup, MC's claim is the wonkiest simply for having apparently unlimited shots (or at least more than me, the up to this point most powerful claimed PR). I think if MC is scum then, by definition, scum have poisoned someone and we're getting two kills tonight and that's why he's willing to attempt the gambit.

The biggest pro scum on ProHawk argument is that he *is* a poisoner and I'm dead. I can't think of many other powers they'd bother to tag me with unless the theory was I lied about my powers and they have a RBer.

I think MC makes sense with a Mastin buddy. I think the only partner that makes sense with ProHawk is me...except then you'd need to justify what power a scum team has in this setup that they opted to target their scumbuddy with. Does anyone else make sense as a ProHawk buddy? I seem to recall parnoi-ing it as Mastin as well at some stage, which still leaves me wanting to lynch Mastin, I'll admit.

@ProHawk - how do you see Shrimp working with MC as a buddy, if at all?
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Post Post #2016 (ISO) » Mon Mar 17, 2014 9:11 pm

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In post 2012, scienceshrimp wrote:because it looks like he doesn't have any fight in him. (on MC's part)
is that pic indicating that you agree?
Yeppers.
In post 1847, Squirrel Girl wrote:MC is a lesser scum read for me than Mastin that I was on yesterday because there just wasn't time to do Mastin (turned out, apparently there wasn't time to do anyone, but...) however now with a full day phase for people to lurk through and not post or vote I can at least push the one I'm more confident about.
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Post Post #2017 (ISO) » Mon Mar 17, 2014 9:14 pm

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k. so let's vote MC, don't you think?
i'm more sure of him now (as scum)... now that prohawk seems town.

you agree with me that nero is town, right? i have had a few reservations on him... when he was v/la. but when he posts, i always think town.
so ya, let's do MC
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Post Post #2018 (ISO) » Mon Mar 17, 2014 9:15 pm

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Post Post #2019 (ISO) » Mon Mar 17, 2014 9:21 pm

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In post 2015, Squirrel Girl wrote:@ProHawk - how do you see Shrimp working with MC as a buddy, if at all?
nah he's just mistaken. it doesn't work
if we were scum with MC, we'd continue pushing prohawk
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Post Post #2020 (ISO) » Mon Mar 17, 2014 9:23 pm

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In post 2017, scienceshrimp wrote:you agree with me that nero is town, right?
Am I the only one who remembers anymore that I'm claiming a cop investigate clear on him?
Because I am claiming that.

I don't want to rush vote MC right now. I'm...(sigh) still trying to talk o Nero, even if every time I admit or insist on it he thinks I'm calling him scum and starts random screaming at me. But...well, i still want to talk to him more and get a better feel for things.

Why would you like to do MC prior to, say, Mastin?
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Post Post #2021 (ISO) » Mon Mar 17, 2014 9:24 pm

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In post 2019, scienceshrimp wrote:if we were scum with MC, we'd continue pushing prohawk
Maybe you would maybe you wouldn't.
I just think that if he wants to call you scum that I'd like to hear his logic, and maybe also hear him address Nero's point about the number of VTs in the game.
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Post Post #2022 (ISO) » Mon Mar 17, 2014 9:31 pm

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In post 2020, Squirrel Girl wrote:
In post 2017, scienceshrimp wrote:you agree with me that nero is town, right?
Am I the only one who remembers anymore that I'm claiming a cop investigate clear on him?
Because I am claiming that.

I don't want to rush vote MC right now. I'm...(sigh) still trying to talk o Nero, even if every time I admit or insist on it he thinks I'm calling him scum and starts random screaming at me. But...well, i still want to talk to him more and get a better feel for things.

Why would you like to do MC prior to, say, Mastin?
cause MC seems more scum. remember i was the one going all out before saying that mastin seemed town? but now, process of elimination says he is probably scum. i dunno if NS is going to agree.. cause he had a for sure town read on titus. so that still needs to be sorted... the titus/mastin slot.
and last time i talked with NS, we both agreed that prohawk seemed scum. but honestly, from his latest posts... he seems town to me. he's putting up a good fight, and actually, putting up a better fight than MS is. seems more real.
so ya, that combined with the fact that NS had a solid town read on titus/mastin... makes me put MC first in terms of wanting to lynch.
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Post Post #2023 (ISO) » Mon Mar 17, 2014 9:33 pm

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i have you and nero as town, for certain.
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Post Post #2024 (ISO) » Tue Mar 18, 2014 6:16 am

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Vote Count 5.05With six alive it takes four to lynch.

Messiah Complex: ProHawk [1]
Scienceshrimp:
Mastin2: Squirrel Girl [1]
Squirrel Girl:
ProHawk: Messiah Complex, mastin2 [2]
Nero Cain:

Not voting: Nero Cain, scienceshrimp [2]


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