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Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2016 8:28 am
by Lowell
In post 1978, Shaziro wrote:No lynching day 1 is almost always detrimental to town, isn't it? I believe I read that or something.
This is...I don't know. Anyone have experience with this guy? I'm dying to cast a vote here, this looks as contrived as anything I've seen.
Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2016 8:34 am
by Persivul
Look at his history - one newbie game. Isn't really surprising.
Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2016 8:35 am
by Shaziro
In post 2000, Lowell wrote: In post 1978, Shaziro wrote:No lynching day 1 is almost always detrimental to town, isn't it? I believe I read that or something.
This is...I don't know. Anyone have experience with this guy? I'm dying to cast a vote here, this looks as contrived as anything I've seen.
Just this morning I finally completed my first newbie game, link at the bottom. I saw somebody suggest no-lynching, and I was confirming that it was a bad idea with others before trying to parse out if it'd be worth it today. Given that I then saw that Titus had said it was, in fact, a bad idea, I left it at that.
In this game, I was Town 1-shot Bulletproof
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=66318
Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2016 8:45 am
by Killthestory
this game is fucking hilarious lmao
Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2016 8:47 am
by Killthestory
I don't want to be force replaced since this is so fun, but like, I'm also tired and don't want to try.
Also, Persivul is town that wagon is trash tier.
Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2016 8:47 am
by drmyshottyizsik
Wait we aren't mod killed yet?
Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2016 8:48 am
by Killthestory
Nah I'm talking from the grave dawg, so I think I'm gonna be banned or something lmao
Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2016 8:50 am
by drmyshottyizsik
You know if you were to sign up for maybe a hypothetical micro theme I'm running I wouldn't replace you.
Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2016 8:53 am
by Killthestory
I don't get replaced usually cuz at one point or another I'll start doing something, and my reads will be so good they'll have to keep me in so scumteam doesn't straight win.
Pers is straight town though please don't vote him
Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2016 8:55 am
by Persivul
Who specifically on the wagon is scummy?
Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2016 8:56 am
by Killthestory
Not sure, I haven't really looked. It's just trash tier and probably heavily scum driven. ETL is town, unsure of Titus pushing you, sort of weird since p sure your obvtown by my skim of your ISO
Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2016 8:58 am
by Shaziro
In post 2008, Killthestory wrote:I don't get replaced usually cuz at one point or another I'll start doing something, and my reads will be so good they'll have to keep me in so scumteam doesn't straight win.
Pers is straight town though please don't vote him
Ok, I'll bite. I haven't seen what you see in the ISO, but I'll look through it again. In the meantime, can you give a -reason- you feel he's town?
Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2016 8:59 am
by Killthestory
VOTE: Zakk
I need more pressure on this
Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2016 9:00 am
by drmyshottyizsik
Thank you!
And I agree pers wagon is shit
Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2016 9:01 am
by Killthestory
In post 2011, Shaziro wrote: In post 2008, Killthestory wrote:I don't get replaced usually cuz at one point or another I'll start doing something, and my reads will be so good they'll have to keep me in so scumteam doesn't straight win.
Pers is straight town though please don't vote him
Ok, I'll bite. I haven't seen what you see in the ISO, but I'll look through it again. In the meantime, can you give a -reason- you feel he's town?
He's too focused on out of game situations rather than grabbing needless towncred. When I stated I knew his town meta, he focused on saying that his meta is unreliable rather than trying to appeal to me by either playing exactly to his meta, or him just pushing me in general. I also like his general content, and his tone is good. Overall solid town
Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2016 9:02 am
by Killthestory
In post 1970, zakk wrote:Yeah. you're right. And he'll probably get vigged. But damn that felt good.
I reserve the right to hammer Persivul.
Scummy af post tbh
Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2016 9:34 am
by Shaziro
Ok, so I can kinda see the tone thing with his "I knew there might be neighborhood scum so that's why I did X" thing. I still don't like
1671 and
1513 though. Are you seeing something there I'm not? In my newbie game, we caught somebody contradicting themselves like this and let it slide despite them just saying "Nah it was just a mistake". He was scum, and made it to endgame. I also still don't like the dividing ETL and Titus stuff. What were your thoughts on it?
Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2016 9:39 am
by Nosferatu
In post 2014, Killthestory wrote: In post 2011, Shaziro wrote: In post 2008, Killthestory wrote:I don't get replaced usually cuz at one point or another I'll start doing something, and my reads will be so good they'll have to keep me in so scumteam doesn't straight win.
Pers is straight town though please don't vote him
Ok, I'll bite. I haven't seen what you see in the ISO, but I'll look through it again. In the meantime, can you give a -reason- you feel he's town?
He's too focused on out of game situations rather than grabbing needless towncred. When I stated I knew his town meta, he focused on saying that his meta is unreliable rather than trying to appeal to me by either playing exactly to his meta, or him just pushing me in general. I also like his general content, and his tone is good. Overall solid town
saying the meta is unreliable is just as bad as appealing by changing his play to fit it.
Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2016 9:44 am
by Shaziro
In post 2017, Nosferatu wrote: In post 2014, Killthestory wrote: In post 2011, Shaziro wrote: In post 2008, Killthestory wrote:I don't get replaced usually cuz at one point or another I'll start doing something, and my reads will be so good they'll have to keep me in so scumteam doesn't straight win.
Pers is straight town though please don't vote him
Ok, I'll bite. I haven't seen what you see in the ISO, but I'll look through it again. In the meantime, can you give a -reason- you feel he's town?
He's too focused on out of game situations rather than grabbing needless towncred. When I stated I knew his town meta, he focused on saying that his meta is unreliable rather than trying to appeal to me by either playing exactly to his meta, or him just pushing me in general. I also like his general content, and his tone is good. Overall solid town
saying the meta is unreliable is just as bad as appealing by changing his play to fit it.
I almost feel like saying it's unreliable might be worse? Seems like that'd be a scumflail, whereas changing your play could be town trying to do better?
Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2016 9:49 am
by Nosferatu
nah, changing your play to fit someone's perceived town meta of you is absolutely abhorrent and scummy af
Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2016 10:15 am
by cytheflyguy
In post 1976, Titus wrote: In post 1974, cytheflyguy wrote:Well with one day to lynch, wouldn't it be better just to lynch someone over not at all?
Or should we go to no lynch today?
In 99.99999% of circumstances, we lynch Day 1.
Are you townreading Persivul?
More or less, but I don't mind getting on a wagon for him.
Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2016 10:31 am
by Killthestory
nos you think Pers is scum? If he doesn't flip scum know that I'll deathtunnel you.
Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2016 10:31 am
by Killthestory
In post 2017, Nosferatu wrote: In post 2014, Killthestory wrote: In post 2011, Shaziro wrote: In post 2008, Killthestory wrote:I don't get replaced usually cuz at one point or another I'll start doing something, and my reads will be so good they'll have to keep me in so scumteam doesn't straight win.
Pers is straight town though please don't vote him
Ok, I'll bite. I haven't seen what you see in the ISO, but I'll look through it again. In the meantime, can you give a -reason- you feel he's town?
He's too focused on out of game situations rather than grabbing needless towncred. When I stated I knew his town meta, he focused on saying that his meta is unreliable rather than trying to appeal to me by either playing exactly to his meta, or him just pushing me in general. I also like his general content, and his tone is good. Overall solid town
saying the meta is unreliable is just as bad as appealing by changing his play to fit it.
not really lmao
it seems like he's more concerned with me getting that right rather than forcing a townread on himself
Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2016 10:32 am
by Killthestory
In post 2016, Shaziro wrote:Ok, so I can kinda see the tone thing with his "I knew there might be neighborhood scum so that's why I did X" thing. I still don't like
1671 and
1513 though. Are you seeing something there I'm not? In my newbie game, we caught somebody contradicting themselves like this and let it slide despite them just saying "Nah it was just a mistake". He was scum, and made it to endgame. I also still don't like the dividing ETL and Titus stuff. What were your thoughts on it?
k thats weird so i see what you're saying there. However, I contradict myself all the time as town and scum so im not actually sure what to make of that. id have to look at it closer, but the first feeling i get from those two posts is scum
Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2016 10:41 am
by Shaziro
Hence why it was part of my reason for voting. I actually didn't notice it on first glance at the ISO, but when looking for context on things I saw it'd come up and seemed to be quickly brushed under the rug.