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Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2016 9:18 am
by DiamondSentinel
Claim your damn guilty, FB. You will die anyways tonight. No scumteam would let someone who crumbed that live.

Also, I swear, if you were faking a guilty...

Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2016 9:18 am
by Spiffeh
Is it possible for bastard elements to be present in this game?

Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2016 9:19 am
by DiamondSentinel
Also, DO NOT HAMMER


THIS IS EXACTLY THE SORT OF BS THAT HAPPENED IN MACHINA WHERE SOMEONE HAD A "GUILTY" ON SOMEONE ELSE AND WE HAMMERED THEM IN UNDER 24 HOURS!

I DON'T KNOW HOW THIS WILL TURN OUT, BUT THAT TIME IT WAS A FUCKING GAMBIT. 2 TOWN DIED BECAUSE OF THAT BULLSHIT PLAY.

Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2016 9:19 am
by Firebringer
Also I really do think theres likely a protective in this game. Call it gut.

Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2016 9:19 am
by Cephrir
In post 1998, Firebringer wrote:
In post 1995, Cephrir wrote:FB, do you really truly think there's no reason for you to claim -- it's not like you arent going to be an nk target, literally no matter what
Not really, but with scum like Spiffeh so desperately trying to push for me to claim, not eager to as well.
he's already claimed VT, what could he say to contradict you? I want to know exactly how hard and fast this is, personally. if you're x-shot or restricted somehow leave that out

Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2016 9:19 am
by Cephrir
eh, then again, i dont care that much

Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2016 9:20 am
by MagnaofIllusion
In post 2001, Spiffeh wrote:Is it possible for bastard elements to be present in this game?
Nope.
In post 94, Eleven wrote:Is it possible your game has any of the following: cults, mid-game alignment changes, moderator lies that cannot be reasonably anticipated (for example, Godfather, Tailor, Miller, Ninja, and mechanics like that are generally fine. Telling someone they are a reflexive doctor when they're actually a PGO is not), secret win conditions, un-divulged non-randomness in player role/alignment generation, direct moderator influence during the game? (Yes/No) - No

Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2016 9:20 am
by Spiffeh
Ceph unvote me then

FB can you like

Reread your role PM/results and make absolutely sure you have a guilty on me?

Because beyond bastard stuff or scum having a framer or something you really shouldn't have a guilty on me unless you're faking it

(which I highly doubt you would do so)

Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2016 9:21 am
by Cephrir
good point UNVOTE:

Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2016 9:21 am
by Spiffeh
Do different sanities for cops count as bastard?

Or framers?

Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2016 9:22 am
by Cephrir
fwiw i do not think the current emotional response is particularly beyond spiffeh as scum

Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2016 9:23 am
by Spiffeh
It probably isn't but I'm town :(

Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2016 9:23 am
by DiamondSentinel
Yes. A cop that doesn't know they are another sanity is 100% bastard.

Framers, I'm pretty sure are considered pretty bastard.

Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2016 9:23 am
by MagnaofIllusion
In post 2009, Spiffeh wrote:Do different sanities for cops count as bastard?

Or framers?
Nope.

Neither also precludes you being the lynch today on the off chance they might be in the game given your and your predecessor's play.

I'm not going to not follow a claimed Guilty for "What If"?

Now if Firebringer retracts his guilty the issue is moot. But until that point there is no reason to let you hang around.

Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2016 9:24 am
by Firebringer
I believe as long as you don't hide the fact that a cop is insane/sane then its not bastard.

I believe framer is non normal, but not bastard.

Pretty sure my results aren't screwed with.

Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2016 9:28 am
by Spiffeh
MoI I realize I'm getting lynched today

I'm fighting for a what I think is very likely town!FB to not get lynched tomorrow

I don't want FB to get lynched for "lying" if there are other possibilities that people should be considering

It would be VERY STUPID for scum!Firebringer to fake a guilty and stick his head out to get me lynched WHEN I WAS ALREADY IN THE HOTSEAT

It would just make him look very bad the next day needlessly

And Firebringer doesn't strike me as the type of scum player to do this

Which is why I think he's town and there's other shenanigans going on that shouldn't be put on the back burner in favor of quick lynching him tomorrow when I flip

Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2016 9:28 am
by DiamondSentinel
Ok, I would like everyone to flavorclaim. That would be optimal.

Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2016 9:29 am
by Spiffeh
I really don't see why that is necessary

Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2016 9:29 am
by Spiffeh
But hey there's a guilty on me so my opinion won't be taken into consideration lol

Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2016 9:33 am
by Eleven
Votecount 2.2


[4] Spiffeh ~ BROseidon, Grib, MagnaofIllusion, kraska77
[1] hiplop ~ SnarkySnowman
[1] keyenpeydee ~ DiamondSentinel

Not Voting (9) - Spiffeh, Transcend, farside22, hiplop, Kdowns, Medical Junkies, Firebringer, Cephrir, keyenpeydee
With 15 alive, it's 8 to lynch![/color]



Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2016 9:35 am
by Spiffeh
I am pretty confident farside is town based on Imperium's scum flip. If she were scum with them I don't think she would oppose them at every turn like she did, especially with how widely town read they were.

Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2016 9:36 am
by Medical Junkies
In post 1942, Spiffeh wrote:hey hiplop can you stop calling people fuckos and do something useful
In post 1958, Cephrir wrote:Why BROseidon?
He's capable like MoI, but with much less likely to get killed night one.
And mostly, how in the FUCK did they think they would not get roleblocked?
What makes you think there's a role blocker? What makes you think our role is worth being blocked?
Because I'm currently entertaining the idea of MJ and BRO being scum together.
Oh, you're just adorable.
In post 1945, Firebringer wrote:I had an interesting night....

VOTE: Spiffeh
Aroo?

pedit: omg stop[/quote]

VOTE: Spiffeh
Yeah. Good enough for me.
In post 1962, Grib wrote:RB could have assumed they were an IC and didn't want to bother when there could be Vigs/Cops/what-have-yous running around.

But eh, Bro + MJ scum is possible.
Of course it's possible, but I don't understand why we're wasting so much time on the low probability when we have a high probability.
In post 1988, Spiffeh wrote:I'm VT

Clifford from Clifford the Big Red Dog
I believe your flavor.

Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2016 9:38 am
by DiamondSentinel
In post 2017, Spiffeh wrote:I really don't see why that is necessary
If at all possible, could you trust me on that?

Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2016 9:38 am
by Spiffeh
I still stand by my Grib town read

DS's play looks business as usual for him; I identified his scum game pretty quickly in Soccer Spirits and none the stuff he's saying here feels forced and his reads are more consistent and believable than they were there. (tbf this game was awhile ago)

Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2016 9:39 am
by Spiffeh
In post 2022, DiamondSentinel wrote:
In post 2017, Spiffeh wrote:I really don't see why that is necessary
If at all possible, could you trust me on that?
I'm open to hearing more opinions on it