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Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2016 2:50 am
by Gamma Emerald
@MDS
Kagami's flip-flopping may be indicative of me/Vedith/Maria/Shadow being Town
If so I'd also expect one of HS/Parama to be scum
I may just need HS/Parama to flip because so many scenarios involve scum in that pair

Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2016 2:51 am
by Gamma Emerald
Edit
Indicative of that IF KAGAMI FLIPS SCUM

Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2016 2:52 am
by Human Sequencer
'If so I'd also expect one of HS/Parama to be scum
I may just need HS/Parama to flip because so many scenarios involve scum in that pair'
Throw shade a little harder next time, we're town

'I'm just concerned that my reads are probably going to be ignored later on.'
If you are town I will absolutely use your reads post-flip.

Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2016 2:55 am
by Shadow_step
In post 1836, inspectorscout wrote:You're paranoid because there were at least the majority of th people who didn't see it as a scumslip, but you are paranoid of me because I'm the one that voiced it?
Yeah.

Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2016 3:27 am
by Vedith
In post 1999, MiniDeathStar wrote:
In post 1994, Vedith wrote:You are the only person who doesn't think scum is in our 4, to my knowledge anyway.
Have you considered that Gamma might just be scummy and the mafia are taking advantage of it? Because honestly Kagami is a lot scummier to me than Gamma atm and I don't see them being scum together. I don't know what's been going on in your lover PT but if you're that strongly convinced then maybe my reads just suck.

I'm not opposed to our pair's lynch though, even if it ends up being a policy lynch in the end. Too many scumbags have tried to use us to further their agenda and I want to put an end to that. I'm just concerned that my reads are probably going to be ignored later on.
I can assure you that there won't be a policy lynch on you and Jester. If you're lynched it's because Gamma is scum.
I've considered that scum are trying to take advantage of it, but I've considered more than scum do not want me/Gamma or Maria/Shadow lynched as it turns back to them.

Scum Gamma - Points to you
Scum Maria - Points to you and Dunn
Scum Shadow - Who the fuck knows, eh?

Your reads aren't being ignored, by me at least, but I want more with the backing of them.

Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2016 3:31 am
by Gamma Emerald
In post 2002, Human Sequencer wrote:'If so I'd also expect one of HS/Parama to be scum
I may just need HS/Parama to flip because so many scenarios involve scum in that pair'
Throw shade a little harder next time, we're town

'I'm just concerned that my reads are probably going to be ignored later on.'
If you are town I will absolutely use your reads post-flip.
I suggest that because I don't want to be basing everything on assumptions, which is what I'm doing when I analyze things based on your pair.

Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2016 3:31 am
by Vedith
Make sure you get your last thoughts and reads out, Gamma.

Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2016 3:32 am
by MiniDeathStar
You do realise that if neither you nor Shadow are lynched, my wagon is the next biggest contender, right? If I were scum and you town, I'd absolutely want you all lynched.

I've explained my reads in detail, please ISO me.

Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2016 3:33 am
by Cerberus v666
In post 2006, Vedith wrote:Make sure you get your last thoughts and reads out, Gamma.
Last thoughts and reads? Are you seriously going to leave the dance? Like fuck the plan whoever suggested if certain people leaving right now.

THIS IS NOT A NORMAL GAME.

You leaving does NOTHING to help the game state that just lynching you wouldn't do, while giving us more information, so don't fucking do it.

Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2016 3:34 am
by Gamma Emerald
In post 2006, Vedith wrote:Make sure you get your last thoughts and reads out, Gamma.
WE ARE NOT LEAVING YET
HAVE YOU NOT READ THAT IT'S BETTER TO BE LYNCHED?
AND I DON'T LIKE THE DICHOTOMY WE'RE CURRENTLY IN

Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2016 3:35 am
by Vedith
In post 2007, MiniDeathStar wrote:You do realise that if neither you nor Shadow are lynched, my wagon is the next biggest contender, right? If I were scum and you town, I'd absolutely want you all lynched.

I've explained my reads in detail, please ISO me.
I'll ISO again later. If it's been in the last day I haven't really payed full attention to this game as it's in a stale state.
As it stands, I don't think your agon is at risk on being lynched, and not that I am saying this is the case, but you could have a scum buddy as Gamma and sitting back on the most popular lynch of Shadow/Maria for town cred.
Again, I'm not saying that's the case, but it's situations to consider why you are not voting either of us.

Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2016 3:37 am
by Vedith
In post 2008, Cerberus v666 wrote:Last thoughts and reads? Are you seriously going to leave the dance? Like fuck the plan whoever suggested if certain people leaving right now.

THIS IS NOT A NORMAL GAME.

You leaving does NOTHING to help the game state that just lynching you wouldn't do, while giving us more information, so don't fucking do it.
We already know peoples views on wagons etc.
Voting at this point is pure vanity. Leaving gives us information of another pair having scum or not. That is greater than the other suspects trying to push away from these lynches.

Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2016 3:38 am
by Vedith
In post 2009, Gamma Emerald wrote:WE ARE NOT LEAVING YET
HAVE YOU NOT READ THAT IT'S BETTER TO BE LYNCHED?
AND I DON'T LIKE THE DICHOTOMY WE'RE CURRENTLY IN
I disagree, just because others say it's better to be lynched doesn't mean I have to think like that.
Information before scum make a kill is better than after...

Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2016 3:41 am
by Cerberus v666
No, it does not Vedith. The information lynch arguments are also shitty.

Pedit: Vedith, did you even read my posts about this matter? How is it better for us to have information before scum make their kill? Seriously?

Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2016 3:42 am
by Vedith
Because I'm right.

Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2016 3:42 am
by Gamma Emerald
Let me state this: LEAVING IS EQUIVALENT TO SELF VOTING
EXCEPT IT'S NOT AS USEFUL FOR SCUM TO DO SO
STILL, DON'T LEAVE

Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2016 3:44 am
by MiniDeathStar
In post 1907, MiniDeathStar wrote:I was sort of torn up between Shadow and Gamma for the third contender but wasn't sure on either, which is why I wasn't voting either. But now I think Shadow is town and Gamma is more back to null. I'd seriously look at the people who use me and Jester as a safe wagon in case Shadow flips town.

Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2016 3:46 am
by Gamma Emerald
Actually now that I think about it, leaving means people don't get towncred for being on your wagon if you are scum

Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2016 3:46 am
by Gamma Emerald
I'D LIKE TO OFFICIALLY DECLARE THAT I NOW PERCEIVE THREATS TO LEAVE AS SCUMMY

Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2016 3:48 am
by Vedith
Mines not a threat. When I'm home we gone yo!

Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2016 3:49 am
by Gamma Emerald
NO YOU DO NOT YOU IDIOT

Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2016 3:51 am
by Gamma Emerald
If you do not change your mind I will advocate a quicklynch on us, because I'm having trouble viewing you as town rn.

Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2016 3:52 am
by Vedith
Look at how worried Gamma is at leaving...
That's not a town reaction for thinking I'm scum for threatening.

Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2016 3:52 am
by MariaR
Gamma wouldn't be this worried as town btw

Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2016 3:53 am
by Gamma Emerald
I'M WORRIED BECAUSE ALL MY READS ARE GETTING FLIPTURNED UPSIDE DOWN AND I NEED TIME TO SORT THINGS