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Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2018 12:23 pm
by Nosferatu
fyi, I checked, and they're not able to use it on anyone but themselves. but you didn't know that either otherwise you would have said so I assume.
That means my scenario is false but the rest still stands.
Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2018 12:23 pm
by Shoshin
I wasn't scumreading you over others, but your blatantly pro-scum play today and lack of thought process is scummy as hell. Your certainty that Koki is town is also scummy. Your lack of trust is unfounded. Everything about your play feels fake.
Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2018 12:24 pm
by Nosferatu
everything about your play to me feels bad
Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2018 12:25 pm
by Nosferatu
I have made multiple posts on why I think that gamma is scum
Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2018 12:26 pm
by Shoshin
Why'd you change your reads when you did? That's the question.
Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2018 12:27 pm
by Nosferatu
because he did scummy things and I pointed it out
Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2018 12:28 pm
by Nosferatu
We can actually make this a lot simpler and I think would make me understand what you don't understand, as fruitless as that might be.
Where do YOU think my read on gamma changed?
Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2018 12:29 pm
by Nosferatu
you can say "its between this post and this post" or just one single inflection point, I just want to know where you think my read changed.
Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2018 12:31 pm
by Shoshin
In post 1241, Nosferatu wrote:gammag is definitely scum but i will not vote in the interest of more relevant people getting gold
How do you reconcile this with your claim that we shouldn't guarantee ourselves another night of actions because you don't trust us to use the investigations well?
Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2018 12:32 pm
by Shoshin
In post 2006, Nosferatu wrote:We can actually make this a lot simpler and I think would make me understand what you don't understand, as fruitless as that might be.
Where do YOU think my read on gamma changed?
I pointe it out twice in my questions to you already. Between post 1277 and 1347.
Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2018 12:33 pm
by Shoshin
In post 1969, Shoshin wrote: In post 1277, Nosferatu wrote:xRECKONERx
skitter30
northsidegal
Kokichi Oma
Gamma Emerald
Porkens
Creature
Shoshin
i guess this is where i am now?
In post 1342, xRECKONERx wrote:Sorry for being gone, had company (actually, the dearly departed Gammagooey) at my house all weekend!
Looking back at the shit with RC D1 I feel like Gammagooey's interactions w/ RC could easily be Gamma trying to distance from RC's meltdown while also getting in my good graces by white knighting me to an extent
I've played a shitload of games with Gamma and I think he'd know that's the best way to get me sedated and off his trail?
Couple that with Varsoon's list which potentially was breadcrumbing RB targets and I think I wanna
VOTE: Gamma Emerald today
I don't understand how Nos chooses to follow Reck (a Nos scumread) onto Gamma (a Nos townread) instead of voting Kokichi (a Nos scumread)... what's the underlying thought process that leads to this?
Nos, you replied to this post. It clarified where the read changed. This is something you should know for yourself and not need me to point out
Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2018 12:34 pm
by Shoshin
I'm on my phone. When I get home tonight, I'm going to dive into all the problems I'm having with you, Nos.
Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2018 12:36 pm
by Nosferatu
In post 2008, Shoshin wrote:How do you reconcile this with your claim that we shouldn't guarantee ourselves another night of actions because you don't trust us to use the investigations well?
my reads were different, the player list was different, different people were alive, the gamestate was different, we weren't one day before lylo.
all of these things factored into my confidence level, and I also had a different amount of confidence in the people who were alive then and are still here now.
Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2018 12:39 pm
by Shoshin
Like who? Only difference is sircake, creature, and reck (who you scumread at the time). Cake and Creature were the two you wanted to vote for Gamma instead of you?
Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2018 12:40 pm
by Shoshin
Because they were already voting Gamma. So that seems like you're just making shit up.
Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2018 12:41 pm
by Nosferatu
my read changed here.
how does that make you feel.
Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2018 12:41 pm
by Shoshin
And now that's it's one day before LYLO, isn't getting night actions and potential investigative results MORE important? Wtf
Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2018 12:42 pm
by Nosferatu
In post 2013, Shoshin wrote:Cake and Creature were the two you wanted to vote for Gamma instead of you?
can you unpack what you mean here cause like you just said words one after another and i dont understand why
Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2018 12:42 pm
by Shoshin
He votes your scumread and defends your new townread and that's scummy? Explain.
Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2018 12:44 pm
by Nosferatu
I try not to let my previous reads affect my interpretation of actions that are happening in the now now
Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2018 12:46 pm
by Nosferatu
gamma made a survivalistic switch to reck that I didn't like. My read on gamma's slot didn't really matter, especially cause my read was a holdover from rc's posts d1. gamma has been slowly disintegrating that for me since he replaced in. this was simply the tipping point.
Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2018 1:49 pm
by Shoshin
What was survivalistic about gamma's vote on reck? Who was he switching from, and why was that a survivalistic move?
Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2018 1:50 pm
by Shoshin
In post 2020, Nosferatu wrote:gamma made a survivalistic switch to reck that I didn't like. My read on gamma's slot didn't really matter, especially cause my read was a holdover from rc's posts d1. gamma has been slowly disintegrating that for me since he replaced in. this was simply the tipping point.
If it was survivalistic, why not vote Koki? Koki was at L-1 when Gamma voted Reck...
Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2018 1:51 pm
by Shoshin
What'd Gamma do prior to this point to make you suspect him?
Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2018 3:03 pm
by Nosferatu
nothing
he just didnt feel town like rc did