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my current thoughts are bef-dann?
I might be completely wrong though.

The early day interaction of omgus-push looks kinda feigned.

@DDL That would mean I've been hard bussing since I came into the game... which... idk maybe that's a play in some universe.

whats going to happen if we don't lynch bef is we are going to probably then mislynch today because odds are stacked against us heavily now, town n2 gets nk'd, and bef claims that either the person he checked was killed or he was rb'd and then we are here again except w two less town members. yeah there is this unlikely scenario where bef straight up did all this nonsense as a real 1-shot neopolitan, but playing for the 1% scenario to sabotage 99% other scenarios is not worth. if there was a way to make sure 100% it was safer, id do it, but this isn't that case.

Bright's OMGUS on Dann is pretty bad. Didn't address a single point. Didn't say why Dann's case makes him scum rather than wrong. Just got defensive and voted. Also, I think I already commented on the claim but just in case I didn't, I don't buy it. I don't see any reason he'd actually wait to use a 1-shot investigative. It sounds like scum trying to buy another day. I wouldn't be surprised if he's like a scum rolecop or something looking for another night to get another result. Oka's point about the vig claim is spot on too. A town investigative should never try to make themselves a NK target, especially if they are holding shots for some reason.

Pretty much all this ^^^

Right now the only other lynch I feel close to comfortable with is Varsoon. His "haven't loved the slot, but let's lynch somewhere else instead" attitude in conjunction with everything that's happened doesn't look good. But I would not want to push this before BEF.

VOTE: BEF

I think the odds of BEF being a scum PR is greater than being a town PR, and I don't want that surviving another night.

In post 1999, OkaPoka wrote:yeah

but what i feel is what i feel

u being obv town and then impossible for me to mislynch happened to correlate directly w lylo

correlation != causation but i guess u can prove me wrong by obv towning now

Meh. I was only obvtown after katyusha did all her hammer tests and I didn't have any possible partners left lmoa

lmao also, this is hilarious:

In post 1834, BrightEyedFish wrote:Yeah dannflor is not looking good.

I would expect that detective dann inspect the Nero NK but I have a feeling he knew it was coming.

If anyone wants to follow dann, go ahead. In the meantime I'll see if there is anything to learn from nero's flip.

I ask him a few times to follow up on his findings. There is no follow up.

In post 1666, Nero Cain wrote:

In post 1665, Dannflor wrote:Nero, if Vork flips town, do you not agree BEF is likely scum?

not really, no.

Who else is scum besides BEF?

He wants us to come to the conclusion that Nero was killed because he was "opposition" to a BEF mislynch, but he can't come out and say it himself. Maybe that's a stretch, but if he's actually town, I don't know why he makes a specific statement like that and then literally never follows up. Just sounds like it's goading other people to have a look and hopefully come up with a specific conclusion.

VOTE: BEF

Aight then

We are lynching BEF today, this is not news.

VOTE: Bright

kmd tomorrow!

Well, my plan for the day was to lurk and find who I think the last scum is because I think I'm probably dying next. I haven't cleared anybody including Dannflor for ~paranoia~.

That said, because there's a hammer my reads are about this:
Dannflor / Creature*
Varsoon / Oka / Suka
DDL
Kmd

and please don't get unmotivated if we don't lynch right first try, 1 scum to a lot of townies is bad odds and I've seen towns drop games due to apathy that comes with a big early lead.

I WAS waiting, but since the days done:
Kmd, why am I and Suka likely scum to you? Talking about Suka being an odd pick for a Fish partner, and you are now the only player scumreading me I believe.
That leads to Oka, what made you change your mind on my slot?

DDL and Varsoon, you have both done little which makes your jabs at each other amusing to me. Varsoon and Creature, what is overtly scummy about DDL? Why have you been tunneled on bum since day 1?

Better reads, mbaki. I'm glad you're turning it around.

I shouldn't post now because I'm tired but here we go.

@kmd maybe that's true, and if it is yikes for me, ill need to reread ddu to verify some stuff

for mbaki
just had one of those lightbulb moments and decided that maybe ur just town. kinda like an on/off switch. After BEF stuff happened, by PoE/associatives you being scum just no longer made logical sense.

Varsoon and DDL look kinda similar, but Varsoon is scummier IMO.

feeling real good about dann flipping scum if bef is red.

"He wants us to come to the conclusion that Nero was killed because he was "opposition" to a BEF mislynch, but he can't come out and say it himself"

this seems like something taken directly out of the scum thread

In post 1944, DrDolittle wrote:

In post 1930, Dannflor wrote:What if he's scum and just decides to confirm DDL as town in an attempt to prove his own innocence?

I thought you thought I was scum?

plus this thing, where dann has been flipping flopping over whether im scum or not.

dann is varsoon your top scum read after bef?

In post 2008, mbaki wrote:DDL and Varsoon, you have both done little which makes your jabs at each other amusing to me.

just because im not writing novellas doesn't mean I'm doing nothing.

In post 2014, DrDolittle wrote:dann is varsoon your top scum read after bef?

rnow, yes

im feeling better about kmd as town.

mbaki's 2008 pings me in a really bad way

In post 2016, Dannflor wrote:

In post 2014, DrDolittle wrote:dann is varsoon your top scum read after bef?

rnow, yes

so essentially among the players that are not lynched, im extremely close to your top scum read since I and him look "kind of similar"

as a former mbaki hater

mbaki town here

whats your lightbulb idea oka?

In post 2017, DrDolittle wrote:im feeling better about kmd as town.

mbaki's 2008 pings me in a really bad way

This pings me in a bad way, and that's not snark my friend.

In post 2012, DrDolittle wrote:feeling real good about dann flipping scum if bef is red.

"He wants us to come to the conclusion that Nero was killed because he was "opposition" to a BEF mislynch, but he can't come out and say it himself"

this seems like something taken directly out of the scum thread

Dann has done more analysis than his scum game looks to be capable of, but he is less eye blindingly obvious town than he was in our last game. I've also kind of had a pet theory that Dann townread me as strong as he did on entrance to pocket me. Of course, the flip side of this is he's just a good player and had some correct reads which is town indicative. He even defended Vorkuta a bit and pushed a Fish lynch yesterday if I recall.

I agree him being scum is a possibility, but I believe this is out of his range is the point of this post. I don't agree with the scum thread stuff, that's not really how people play.

DDL you are a very mixed read to me with some of your slot reading very scummy and some of your slot reading very town, so I don't really know where to sort you. I would lean more town than scum just based on gut though. At a surface level, yours and Varsoon's posts do look similar.

Curious that there's so many people who seem to have scumreads on me,
yet I am kept alive, as if they want to lynch me closer to or in LYLO
and haven't wagoned me yet because they know I'll flip green and they'll catch shit for it
They're just waiting for a good time to pounce when I am lowest hanging and ripe
It's so painfully transparent.

Is 2023 supposed to be satire?