In post 1987, Dumb and Dumber wrote:I mildly townread Pooky's posting. I have seen Pooky deathtunnel before, I do not think that makes him scum.
This is a very reductive version of why Pooky is scum
OK, can you explain the non-reductive version, with a tldr?
As best as I can understand, your case basically boils down to pooky deathtunneling Clover, and we're trying to get a sense of what else is impacting your Pooky read.
In post 1988, Klick wrote:You're wrong; it's {1v3|1v4} going into the night, which nullifies the rest of your logic.
I read this wrong, sorry, 1v3/1v3 is correct
Also, why are we viable?
Do you think this is likely or just that there's nothing particularly ruling it out
-Dumber
Posted: Fri Jul 10, 2020 7:31 am
by Dumb and Dumber
Klick can you give a high-level summary of your progression on pooky throughout the game?
I think that would be really helpful.
- Dumber
Posted: Fri Jul 10, 2020 7:33 am
by DonCorleone
VOTE: pooky
Posted: Fri Jul 10, 2020 8:27 am
by PookyTheMagicalBear
just checking in
still alive somehow.
I think it's kind of suspicious how DnD is playing as if he already knows I'm going to flip as town and setting up for the 1v1 tommorrow - makes me lean towards Klick town and DnD scum ~ but the choice is going to be up to you guys.
Posted: Fri Jul 10, 2020 8:36 am
by PookyTheMagicalBear
DonC's vote here is pretty susp - if he really thinks I'm scum I don't think he puts me at L-1 this early in the day
Posted: Fri Jul 10, 2020 8:37 am
by PookyTheMagicalBear
Like we have 5 days to talk things over - pretty obvious at this point everyone except for DnD prefers a pooky lynch by a mile - there's no reason to rush things except to stop discussion prematurely.
Posted: Fri Jul 10, 2020 8:55 am
by Dumb and Dumber
In post 2006, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:I think it's kind of suspicious how DnD is playing as if he already knows I'm going to flip as town and setting up for the 1v1 tommorrow - makes me lean towards Klick town and DnD scum
We do not seem to be in a position where we would necessarily need to set up for a 1v1 tomorrow. The potential value of whatever additional preparation we may be doing would still be a lot lesser than the lost value in derailing the wagon on you.
Do you think the case on you is sound? Why do you townread Klick?
-Dumbass
Posted: Fri Jul 10, 2020 9:00 am
by Dumb and Dumber
Klick/Aldusskel is our very preliminary solve.
It's interesting to see that Aldusskel barely mentions Klick or engages with him in his first 50 posts (which I assume are before coalition) except for a light townread.
-Dumbass
Posted: Fri Jul 10, 2020 9:03 am
by PookyTheMagicalBear
It doesn't make sense for Klick-scum to defend Clover that hard and attack me for a lynch on D1 - I flip town and he is in a way shittier position D2. He's much better off getting a Clover lynch followed by me getting lynched.
Pretty sure it's impossible to derail the wagon on me
I have 3 votes on and 2 people who have signaled intent to hammer.
Posted: Fri Jul 10, 2020 9:12 am
by Dumb and Dumber
A Clover firing would have to be consistent with his previous stances. Also, i feel like you overestimate how shitty of a position it should leave someone in, and I also feel that people are generally overestimating how scummy it is to tunnel on town.
Well, perhaps the idea that I am scum posturing around your townflip shall derail it! DonCorleone, please unvote and engage with us.
-Dumbass
Posted: Fri Jul 10, 2020 9:40 am
by PookyTheMagicalBear
In post 2010, Dumb and Dumber wrote:Klick/Aldusskel is our very preliminary solve.
It's interesting to see that Aldusskel barely mentions Klick or engages with him in his first 50 posts (which I assume are before coalition) except for a light townread.
if Klick is scum - Aldus doesn't make sense as a partner - me flipping town would hurt Klick-scum - they'd rather have clover flip town yesterday.
Posted: Fri Jul 10, 2020 9:50 am
by Deimos27
UNVOTE:
There's more analysis I want to do but I'm busy till Sunday so will unvote for now
Posted: Fri Jul 10, 2020 10:09 am
by DonCorleone
I mean, I could unvote, but I’d rather just lynch pooky
Posted: Fri Jul 10, 2020 10:16 am
by DonCorleone
First we lynch pooky
If town, re-evaluate
If scum, lynch wug
Posted: Fri Jul 10, 2020 2:40 pm
by Alduskkel
it's easy to tell D&D hasn't read the game from how they're actually voting someone other than pooky
Posted: Fri Jul 10, 2020 2:47 pm
by Alduskkel
D&D if klick were confirmed town then what would your pick for the scumteam be?
Posted: Fri Jul 10, 2020 9:50 pm
by Datisi
Prodding Wug.
Posted: Sat Jul 11, 2020 12:46 am
by Dumb and Dumber
Then surely it must be easier to describe the case on Pooky? What did we miss from not having read the game?
DC, why not re-evaluate today? We go into 3:2 FiLo if we choose wrong.
-Dumbass
Posted: Sat Jul 11, 2020 12:54 am
by Deimos27
FTR I think Pooky/D&D just became somewhat less likely because if that team NK's in-coalition it's to sacrifice Pooky and get the other coalition member hyper townread — and D&D is now trying to save Pooky.
Posted: Sat Jul 11, 2020 12:57 am
by Deimos27
Just saying I'd expect a bus here to lock in the D&D WIFOM protection with Wug/Aldus/DC on the chopping block.
Posted: Sat Jul 11, 2020 12:58 am
by Deimos27
Assuming scum!D&D this play makes a lot more sense as setting up Klick -> Pooky or Pooky -> Klick miseliminations.