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Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2020 2:15 pm
by shellyc
In post 1905, UNOwen wrote:Despite this focus, there is still an interest in the rest of the game throughout his posts and I can't detect any scum agenda.
why is “interest in the game” alignment indicative though?
also can you quote the posts in which a town agenda is shown
Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2020 2:17 pm
by shellyc
In post 1927, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Our argument on him voting Hectic seemed like something scum wouldn’t bother with. I really liked how he kept his stance of voting Odd-Day Jester for policy reasons. It’s the kind of silly argument scum likely wouldn’t bother with.
how is policying people town indicative
this is flawed logic
Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2020 2:18 pm
by davesaz
Yeah I know, that development showed up after I had noticed that Jester was referring to meta that a new person wouldn't have.
Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2020 2:18 pm
by shellyc
In post 1942, Tayl0r Swift wrote:well im not sure about you atm. i still dont really buy a lot of the reasons you gave in your defense and i think your playstyle is lazy and helps scum. but i can sorta see the town mindset, and the way our wagons formed today suggests to me that this is TvT, more likely than not. its more that im fairly convinced that norwee and mundivore are scum, and i dont see you being scum with them.
can you like, explain why its TvT for once
if you think their play is anti-town cant you policy them?
Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2020 2:21 pm
by shellyc
lets push taylor to E-1 and get a claim, i think thats the most protown thing to do today
the day has been derailing
Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2020 2:23 pm
by davesaz
Here is a partial look on where I am. Still lots to look at.
duppin looked scummy from posts like
601 which looks somewhat evasive, and
610 which looks like an overt attempt to be chill about being scumread. Later posting like
1701,
1718,
1757 look like they are trying to find out other players alignments via discussion which is pretty towny. On balance I'm thinking town though my early reads are never strong.
Tayl0r was involved in a lot of the questioning from duppin, and the way she handled those posts seems to ignore the topic that duppin is trying to explore/explain/question and continue as though her version is truth. By not quoting the things she's asserting about duppin and failing to acknowledge the rebuttal points it makes it look like she wants to fit evidence to the read instead of the read to the evidence. I need to read her more but these interactions look scummy.
Jester / Hectic had a really good post that I spoilered in an earlier post -- looks town to me with the usual caveat that it's weak.
I need to re-read Norwegian's interactions with Tayl0r. I think there were points where I thought each of them looked like scum during the first reading, and that makes me doubt that it's coherent. Also looking at just those interactions is too narrow a focus, need to look at Norwegian's overall approach. Rather than try to make a call from possibly bad memory gonna have to make it a to-do.
Mundivore admitting they're working on a case but becoming less convinced
1989 is a good sign but not enough to get a real read from by itself.
I've seen Noraa post but can't remember the substance of her positions. Her iso is too long to approach it that way. Some of the tone as I've spot checked is cheerful and friendly enough but I'm unsure what that should mean.
Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2020 2:30 pm
by Noraa
My first town game finished. Go get meta if u want it. Newbie something ANCIENT ARTHROPODS
Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2020 2:31 pm
by Tayl0r Swift
In post 1997, Mundivore wrote:I'm not fond of my reads being easy to follow, unless it's a read that I think will save a townie or sink some scum.
shouldnt that be all your reads? i dont understand tbh.
Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2020 2:31 pm
by shellyc
do I not exist Dave?
yeah I was kinda heavily tpr reading you scanning that game which is why I said I had info on your meta
Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2020 3:39 pm
by Redados
In post 2004, shellyc wrote:lets push taylor to E-1 and get a claim, i think thats the most protown thing to do today
the day has been derailing
talk me through how forcing claims is pro-town.
Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2020 7:57 pm
by bugspray
@mod are you looking for a replacement for saud?
Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2020 8:24 pm
by Morning Tweet
When I originally prodded Saudade, I had missed that he went on V/LA. I am retroactively counting his V/LA as being from Sep 26 - Sep 28 ("a few days"). However, he then went 48 hours without posting (Sep 29 - Sep 30).
Saudade's prod timer is now active. He has 24 hours to post before I start searching for a replacement.
Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2020 8:25 pm
by NorwegianboyEE
In post 2006, Noraa wrote:My first town game finished. Go get meta if u want it. Newbie something ANCIENT ARTHROPODS
Oho,.
This really cute.
Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2020 8:35 pm
by bugspray
Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2020 10:11 pm
by bugspray
VOTE: duppin
Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2020 10:30 pm
by shellyc
force claim = scum may claim wrong role, real PR outs scum
Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2020 10:59 pm
by bugspray
shelly then we also lose a tpr to the night kill, do you think there's a more efficient way?
Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2020 11:00 pm
by shellyc
In post 2016, bugspray wrote:shelly then we also lose a tpr to the night kill, do you think there's a more efficient way?
1 scum for 1 town benefits us, as even with the PR kill its one red player down
do YOU have a more efficient way?
Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2020 11:01 pm
by shellyc
like no matter what I still want to hear claims from people at E-1 so we know we’re not lolhammering a PR
Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2020 11:02 pm
by bugspray
not do you know a better way. Do you believe there could exist a better way for town to obtain info leading to a successful scum elimination than just by making people claim? Scum will often claim vt for WIFOM purposes so on average we are more likely to lose a tpr than elim scum
Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2020 11:02 pm
by bugspray
If someone lolhammers then the circumstances around it are always very suspect and often it would just be scum outing themselves.
Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2020 11:07 pm
by shellyc
In post 2019, bugspray wrote:not do you know a better way. Do you believe there could exist a better way for town to obtain info leading to a successful scum elimination than just by making people claim? Scum will often claim vt for WIFOM purposes so on average we are more likely to lose a tpr than elim scum
yes. by scumhunting
. I didn’t say claiming was the only way for us to lim scum
Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2020 11:07 pm
by shellyc
im also not professor mafia and do not have a huge database of mafia theory
Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2020 11:09 pm
by bugspray
"by scumhunting" that means literally nothing. any action that can be construed as helping town gain info to elim scum is scumhunting. getting people to l1 to claim is under the category of scumhunting
Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2020 11:11 pm
by bugspray
me: shelly is there a better way to find scum?
shelly: yeah scumhunting
???