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I don’t think I’ve drawn scum against you yet bell.

Ninja-
I’ll ask if he still thinks so when he’s around but he hasn’t been around today

I also wanted to get the show over here on the road because over there’s been waiting for us for a bit

Ninja-
As ffery would say, adorable bell is town bell

BELL PRIDE

I'm not giving you a reads list when I've read less than half this game.
I'm not your monkey.

In post 1986, unwnd wrote:

In post 3291, Deacon Blues wrote:

In post 1960, unwnd wrote:

Spoiler:

I think LLD is scum and I can't even reach the barbarians because they won't stop fighting. Skitter is in a dangerous position and I don't know where the bus starts and where town being right ends. In that sense, I haven't been able to track why Skitter is being voted. It just literally happened, like a murmur that turned into a bunch of loud voices convinced that Skitter was scum. The progression is concerning, and if there is a bus in play it is far more subtle and not even being tracked. The few who are town and voting Skitter are likely just sheeping someone they believe is town, but again I refer back to the whole contingency plan. There is none.

IWhy do you think LLD is scum?

I'll try to illustrate this because a lot of your side doesn't like to read walls. Please tell me if this is confusing.

Progression for town players usually follows a recognizable pattern to me. I can usually understand why they went from Here (Inquiry of alignment) ➜ Here (Reasoning of vote) ➜ Here (Applying pressure to individual) ➜ Vote. LLD so far does not follow this pattern.

Her thought process on Superbowl went like this:
Here (Inquiry of alignment) ➜ Here (YOU ARE SCUM YOU ARE BEING COACHED I SEE THROUGH YOU YOU ARE SCUM UGHHHH PROCEED TO THROW FUCKING EVERYTHING AT SUPERBOWL PERFORMATIVE NONSENSE) ➜ Vote. She outright skipped a few steps and went from 0 to 100 on one person, and if her intent was to merely pressure Superbowl, then something must've come out of it right? Not really. LLD's one big moment was her fight with Superbowl and then the rest is just (performative nonsense). Look at her posts and tell me if you can gauge where her next thought has lead since that fight and if you can I'll take back everything I've said.

Requesting beam and maybe some responses

also, my reads are interspersed all over the place.
It's not like I don't have any.

@Skitter-
I have a N2 date with them. I agreed to the imperium n1 long before the IC. Town works together with their townreads to solve and advance town wincon.

I’m working with my townreads.

Shelly's my primary concern, that's all. I can't keep up with everything or be aware of everything.
Especially not in this town. With my game load.

229-250, I pretty much agreed that shelly's early take on Bell seemed totally fair
296 was in response I think to my reads in 290 and that reaction I think made sense to me, not insofar as shelly was agreeing with my reads but she understood I was offering an against-the-grain perspective for the time
301 is pretty even-tempered for someone tunneling
308 is totally fair if not townie in itself
319 could be shelly as scum picking up that brian was off tonally as a TPR but certainly reflects my sentiments at the time which was that brian seemed 'off'
371 seems townie tone
872 -- I agree with every single read. Are you assuming this is TMI?
1388 -- makes sense for gamestate to me

She's been absent a lot but this is not the slot that would immediately jump out at me for a flip. I am not familiar with scum shelly and don't have a meta argument here at all. I could be wrong, and I'm not so dead certain on this read that I'm really planning to pollute this thread a lot if the IC is just decided, but the scumread here is *not obvious* to me, the scumread on you *seems fair*, and I'd like a lot more explanation from annie on what the meta case here is supposed to look like because I have literally no context for shelly's range as scum

I lost to Shelly and bulge because they put too much pressure on me in cylo and I cracked.

In post 2001, Bell wrote:I'm not giving you a reads list when I've read less than half this game.
I'm not your monkey.

why not say that the first time instead of trying to deflect onto shading me? You have so little content and so little engagement and Annie's entire towncase/sheep on you is predicated on your WIM... and you're acting like that is not something that is worth asking questions about. What the fuck is with this tone, dude? Since when is asking for reads lists rude in a fucking game of mafia? Get off your high horse and play the game or don't

In post 2007, Annie Edison wrote:I lost to Shelly and bulge because they put too much pressure on me in cylo and I cracked.

ok then how much of this is "I want shelly out of the game" and how much is it "shelly is scum"?

In post 1999, Hench Princesses wrote:

In post 1993, Bell wrote:I'm giving my perspective, whether you agree or think it's scummy or not, that's what you're here for, to solve.

but I just asked for a readslist and you responded with condescending bullshit and an extremely

badfaith tinfoil

maybe you could just give the reads list instead of doing this AtE whine?

I am really tired of seeing this be the way you argue with people, using mafia jargon or logical fallacies out of context in order to seem like your argument holds more weight than it actually does. You voted Bell in the exact same way you voted me too. What are you doing? Disagreement does not mean someone is scum. You did the same shit with me and I didn't have the mind to call it out.

In post 2008, Hench Princesses wrote:

In post 2001, Bell wrote:I'm not giving you a reads list when I've read less than half this game.
I'm not your monkey.

why not say that the first time instead of trying to deflect onto shading me? You have so little content and so little engagement and Annie's entire towncase/sheep on you is predicated on your WIM... and you're acting like that is not something that is worth asking questions about. What the fuck is with this tone, dude? Since when is asking for reads lists rude in a fucking game of mafia? Get off your high horse and play the game or don't

Is this hub?

In post 2010, unwnd wrote:You voted Bell in the exact same way you voted me too. What are you doing? Disagreement does not mean someone is scum. You did the same shit with me and I didn't have the mind to call it out.

characterizing "you scumslipped because you assumed shelly would post more in this game" as a "badfaith tinfoil" is *extremely generous*

Also do you think I think Bell is scum right now?

Anytime Hench feels even a bit of ounce in pressure her thoughts go from

You are scummy

to

Your cognitive bias diassociation theory of town is prominently attributed to the badfaith argument of a scum member who is onto-logically giving you the burden of proof is equating to you being scum

There should be some nuance to your read of me that is severely lacking here if you are.

In post 2011, Bell wrote:Is this hub?

scorpia has yet to post, yes

In post 2014, Bell wrote:There should be some nuance to your read of me that is severely lacking here if you are.

Do you think I think you are scum right now?

In post 2013, unwnd wrote:Your cognitive bias diassociation theory of town is prominently attributed to the badfaith argument of a scum member who is onto-logically giving you the burden of proof is equating to you being scum

you do not even understand this conversation

Feel free to spout another worthless logical fallacy on why you are right because that's what you think town does lol

ftr, 2014 by unwnd is way scummier than anything bell or annie has done here

[quote="In post 3350, superbowl9"]Trust me I’ve played >10 games with LLD, she wouldn’t do this as scum[/quote

You are a goddamn fool and your wall on Gamma shows it

In post 2019, Hench Princesses wrote:ftr, 2014 by unwnd is way scummier than anything bell or annie has done here

Vote me like you vote anyone who disagrees with you

How the fuck did you townread this slot, Tammycho?

In post 2021, unwnd wrote:Vote me like you vote anyone who disagrees with you

I already did but you're being shielded right now

...By who?