electoral college mafia (now its done watch it go)

[lendunistus]

if nobody objects within an hour, i’m hammering

[MathBlade]

if nobody objects within an hour, i’m hammering

I object.
Let bugspray catch up and if they don’t post anything in two-three hours then hammer.

But they expressed an interest let them post a thought before hammering.

[lendunistus]

if nobody objects within an hour, i’m hammering

I object.
Let bugspray catch up and if they don’t post anything in two-three hours then hammer.

But they expressed an interest let them post a thought before hammering.

i’ll go to sleep in ~1 hour

if bugspray consents and I get no other objections, hammering in 1 hour

[MathBlade]

if nobody objects within an hour, i’m hammering

I object.
Let bugspray catch up and if they don’t post anything in two-three hours then hammer.

But they expressed an interest let them post a thought before hammering.

i’ll go to sleep in ~1 hour

if bugspray consents and I get no other objections, hammering in 1 hour

Looks like bugspray isn’t posting any catchup. Still wait the whole hour but objection removed.

[T3]

5:08 PM.....

[T3]

By the way, could people please explain their reads on me?

[T3]

Tsu, moz, tris, lend could hammer.

[Flea The Magician]

I think lend went to bed again...

[MathBlade]

By the way, could people please explain their reads on me?

In PoE but I want G and Moz more in that order.

[mastina]

I think you or this alien are scum due to the one too many PRs problem.

I don't.

This is a Large Normal, reviewed by Isis.

With 19 players and 4 scum, that's 15 town. ~6-8 TPRs is what I'd expect.

Quote me where you said what they said again please Mastina.

They said they were a town odd-night combined mailman alien, that I was both roleblocked and rolestopped. (They apologized for blocking my actions, which is unfortunate, because I did use an action last night--ironically enough, *I* targeted *you*.) They then said they didn't have much more to say, other than townreading you, thinking I am town, and wanting thoughts on Auro; they gave me a code word to confirm it was from them. They also specified a way beyond the code word to reveal to me.

[mastina]

How exactly did Mastina both be blocked and target tsu with an action?

Sure it does. I targeted Tsutsu with a night action--it was roleblocked. Meaning the night action didn't succeed. But that doesn't mean I didn't submit the night action; I still did. It just didn't go through because it was roleblocked.

[MathBlade]

Oooh a Mastina.

Look at G’s response.

G = scum yeah? You were scum with G before. This should be easy for you?

[mastina]

Alright... I really don't see Anya playing like this as town.

Eh, I do, but I understand the policy-elimination there. I'm not going to hard-defend Anya as Anya was never north of null prior to now (I actually think the claim shenanigans are indicative of town), but I don't think Anya flips scum. I get the basically mandatory need for an Anya elimination; "Lim All Liars" has been a site policy since before I joined for damn good reason, and this sort of play should not be allowed to scathe by because it is the type of play that we should punish, with eliminations, to show that it is not okay to do.

But while it is the type of play to policy-eliminate because there's a chance it comes from scum (even if I don't think Anya is scum) and was incredibly anti-town and worthy of elimination, I personally won't vote there, because I prefer to vote scum.

And given that I'm voting bugspray and have been the entire game, I feel pretty damn good about me voting scum.

[mastina]

i swear i need to get a maths degree in set theory to understand half these posts
i was gonna reread the theory and then talk about why it's right but last night some bullshit and i got distracted and now there's like five pages?

And people wonder why I'm voting bugspray.

[mastina]

The other part that worries me is let’s assume Mastina is Mason + PR since she said she sent out some targeting action.

I am indeed conftown with a targeting action.

Elaborating beyond that is never protown here.

[MathBlade]

The other part that worries me is let’s assume Mastina is Mason + PR since she said she sent out some targeting action.

I am indeed conftown with a targeting action.

Elaborating beyond that is never protown here.

If Anya is town as you say (I sure as fuck hope you’re wrong) you need to conf yourself when I am dead and drive.

I know you’re going through shit right now but I am pretty sure G is scum here and I am going to ask you to drive when I die.

[mastina]

My top 4 are lend, bugspray, Anya, Auro.

Replace Anya with...well, not quite sure who, but someone else, and you get where I'm at, too.

I'm willing to buy that MathBlade's town here since PR-wise we have room for him to be town without it overloading the town PRs here and the claim did seem highly town under the circumstances. I am pretty damn sure bugspray is scum here. Auro could be town but his play by and large says otherwise. lend looks like scum through and through, tho I'm not as sure on him as I am on bugspray.

The fourth might be one of {tris, Almost50}, although I admit that's more a combination of setup spec than a read.

[MathBlade]

My top 4 are lend, bugspray, Anya, Auro.

Replace Anya with...well, not quite sure who, but someone else, and you get where I'm at, too.

I'm willing to buy that MathBlade's town here since PR-wise we have room for him to be town without it overloading the town PRs here and the claim did seem highly town under the circumstances. I am pretty damn sure bugspray is scum here. Auro could be town but his play by and large says otherwise. lend looks like scum through and through, tho I'm not as sure on him as I am on bugspray.

The fourth might be one of {tris, Almost50}, although I admit that's more a combination of setup spec than a read.

I think your reads suck imho. Probably why you’re not dead.

[mastina]

Didn't Mastina say she'd be confirmable or something to that effect?

Correct. I am literally conftown. Not metaphorically--literally. As in my role is one that is on the list of Normal roles that

cannot

be scum; it is listed as a Town-only role.

Claiming further than that is antitown. My word should be enough given that I've never lied about having this type of role before.

[mastina]

By the way, could people please explain their reads on me?

Well basically, I feel like you are coming from a place of genuine game solving. I don't really have any meta on you or much in the way of substantial evidence, but you look and feel town. In particular, your theory yesterday, while wrong, felt like EXACTLY the type of theory I would make as town, to the point where yesterday when you said you had a theory, I knew EXACTLY what your theory was! And that theory is one that I struggle to see coming from scum, especially with such conviction.

So you're a pretty damn good townread, but not a locktown read.

[mastina]

G = scum yeah? You were scum with G before. This should be easy for you?

It is easy for me, incredibly so in fact: Gypyx is so town this game that he might as well be a mason.

[MathBlade]

*confused Math face*

Does not compute.

Looks forward to dying so confusion doesn’t drown thread.

[mastina]

I think your reads suck imho. Probably why you’re not dead.

I mean my reads seem pretty fine thusfar. I was townreading Momrangal, Xtoxm, and VFP; I feel pretty damn confident in Gypyx being town and fairly good about mozamis and Vaxkiller being town, too. T3 and Tsutsu, while not conftown, do have fairly strong reason to be town imo.

And if Anya flips town like I think, that'll be another read I was right on.

And if you're town like I currently believe, that leaves the pool of 4 scum as being:
{Flea, Almost50, tris, Outworlder, lendunidis, Auro, bugspray}.

And in that group I'm pretty damn sure this is Flea as town.

Which means 4 scum in {Almost50, tris, Outworlder, lendunidis, Auro, bugspray}.

6 names for 4 scum; that's a pretty damn good POE imo.

So I think my reads are just fine.

[mastina]

Gypyx
Randy Savage/MathBlade
Vaxkiller
mozamis

T3
Noraa/Tsutsu
Flea the Magician

quiet/Almost50
OutWorldER

tris

lendunistus

Auro

bugspray

Updated readslist. (Anya deliberately removed because Anya should be a policy-elimination today due to the chance she's scum even though I don't think she is.)

[MathBlade]

I think your reads suck imho. Probably why you’re not dead.

I mean my reads seem pretty fine thusfar. I was townreading Momrangal, Xtoxm, and VFP; I feel pretty damn confident in Gypyx being town and fairly good about mozamis and Vaxkiller being town, too. T3 and Tsutsu, while not conftown, do have fairly strong reason to be town imo.

And if Anya flips town like I think, that'll be another read I was right on.

And if you're town like I currently believe, that leaves the pool of 4 scum as being:
{Flea, Almost50, tris, Outworlder, lendunidis, Auro, bugspray}.

And in that group I'm pretty damn sure this is Flea as town.

Which means 4 scum in {Almost50, tris, Outworlder, lendunidis, Auro, bugspray}.

6 names for 4 scum; that's a pretty damn good POE imo.

So I think my reads are just fine.

If you’re right do what you want but like you’re PoE is literally all my town reads.