Mafiascum.net

I plan to be fully caught up by tomorrow evening so I can start engaging in real time which is where I do my ~best work~

In the meantime, I should be here on and off to eviscerate any horrendous allegations against me

In post 1998, Spiffeh wrote:

In post 1977, Dannflor wrote:Honestly, I don't super enjoy how Spiffeh's analysis of my slot is largely limited to feelings about my tone. It's not that I don't read it as genuine but he's basically taken two opposite standpoints on how my posting feels, either one of which could be reasonable and credible to lean into depending on how the thread shifts — i.e. morph gives permission for my lim.

I have been successful in the past identifying scum based on tone (borkjerfkin in Warehouse 13, for example) and my ~feelings~ about people are like 90% of how I form my reads so I don't really know what to tell you.

Where I'm at in my catchup, your slot is THE hot topic and I find it worthwhile to list things that bother me and things that I like so I can come to a conclusion when I'm finished reading. That's why I asked Titus to link the game she was talking about in regards to T3, though I misunderstood and thought she meant he had fake-scumslipped in the past, which would have affected how I viewed the validity of the scum slip in this game.

that's fair. I just can't shake the squeamish feeling that you came to basically two different ~feelings~ about my slot that you can lean into as you go on

I guess I'll be most interest in what your ultimate conclusion is on my slot after you're done catching up

In post 1999, unwnd wrote:Share your tierlist and I'll make one of my own

https://tiermaker.com/create/reads-1081311

In post 2000, Spiffeh wrote:I plan to be fully caught up by tomorrow evening so I can start engaging in real time which is where I do my ~best work~

In the meantime, I should be here on and off to eviscerate any horrendous allegations against me

What page are you on now?

In post 2002, Dannflor wrote:

In post 1999, unwnd wrote:Share your tierlist and I'll make one of my own

https://tiermaker.com/create/reads-1081311

[Vecna, Dann]
[Anya, unwnd, Taco, morph, Kazyan]
[Celestial, petapan, Addicts]
[everyone else (null)]
[Echolocation]
[Whemestar]

I think my issue when playing mafia is i really easily develop townreads on people but noting things i scumread is a lot harder :/

Reeeeeeegardless, my read on wheme remains rather firm in that i believe he is mafia for reasons i've previously stated, looking through his ISO theres actually a lot of fluff that has clogged up the thread. dont like the slot or many of his takes.

Celestial slot has been pretty solid so far, i find myself agreeing with a lot of their takes, though theres been a few i've similary strongly disagreed with. overall, i think their thread presence has been pretty positive. they probably should be higher but i'd need to revisit their iso

Echo probably goes lower actually yea theyre going below nullscum. SO MUCH fluff in thread like i can recall at least two instances where they've popped into thread to say nothing meaningful and then promptly exit. probably missing some meaningful content from them but nothing sticks in my head

cant quite remember the reasoning for my petapan read so it was probably just gut

i still think a majority of addicts posts have been pro-town and pro-discussion but im a little skeptical at their willingness to give up the read they held SO strongly on dann to listen to what morph had to say on the matter. still town in my books.

Anya is a pretty cool player, i think my read is more based around my comfort surrouding her, but i really like how laid-back and willing to engage she is.

unwnd ummmmmmmm i dont remember why theyre town in my books remind me to come back to this one

Taco's frustration at that one dannflor post read forever ago read as really towny to me... based on that they should probably be lower so remind me to revisit that one

morph i missed in the original but i've generally held confidence in their posting and style to hold a townread.

im still of the mindset dann was tmi'ed by wheme and im ready to believe theyre town for quite a while

Kazyan's reaction to the votes on him (also forever ago) i think absolutely comes from town worried theyll be targetted over someone they believe is obvscum. i'll probably move this one down cos i havent really paid attention to any other content they've posted but i'd be hard pressed to read that interaction as anything but town.

Vecna i cannot for the life of me remember why i put so high but im gonna keep him here. just reread his iso and theres a lot of engagement and i like their willingness to have opposite opinions to widely townread players and i generally cannot understand why they've ended up so low on a lot of peoples reads

In post 1997, Lukewarm wrote:

In post 1991, ManateeDude wrote:GUHHHHHHHHHHHHHH ok i will not be doing a catchup wall i will probably just elaborate on my reads list bc prospect of a wall makes me want to topple over

Manatee, any response to the charges Morph has laid against you?

in regards to the hood theyre reading me as scum for the wrong reasons

If you want my opinions on anything just ask me, my engagement with this game will probably be minimal.

In post 2006, ManateeDude wrote:

In post 1997, Lukewarm wrote:

In post 1991, ManateeDude wrote:GUHHHHHHHHHHHHHH ok i will not be doing a catchup wall i will probably just elaborate on my reads list bc prospect of a wall makes me want to topple over

Manatee, any response to the charges Morph has laid against you?

in regards to the hood theyre reading me as scum for the wrong reasons

This is an interesting word choice.

Are there right reasons to think you are scum this game?

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Do you think their scum read on you is genuine, even if they are wrong?

In post 2008, Lukewarm wrote:

In post 2006, ManateeDude wrote:

In post 1997, Lukewarm wrote:

In post 1991, ManateeDude wrote:GUHHHHHHHHHHHHHH ok i will not be doing a catchup wall i will probably just elaborate on my reads list bc prospect of a wall makes me want to topple over

Manatee, any response to the charges Morph has laid against you?

in regards to the hood theyre reading me as scum for the wrong reasons

This is an interesting word choice.

Are there right reasons to think you are scum this game?

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Do you think their scum read on you is genuine, even if they are wrong?

yea i definitely used the wrong words to get across what i meant. i guess the way i shouldve worded it would be something along the lines of "theyre drawing the wrong conclusion from my behavior" which doesnt really correspond to what i meant LMAO. whether those are the right reasons or not idrk.

i think their read on me is definitely genuine even though it's incorrect

In post 2005, ManateeDude wrote:im still of the mindset dann was tmi'ed by wheme and im ready to believe theyre town for quite a while

how does this work with multi-ball

I find it hard to believe this is the only reason I went from 100% the elim today to your top town read category?

I'm liking manatee a little better.

We talked a bit about why she's been quiet in the neighborhood. She said it had to do with being locked up with a big noisy hydra (an over simplification on my part, but accurate, I think). I want to move the conversation into this thread so that other players have data and generate data for developing read(s).

Which is happening, so yay me.

I didn't remember who the last two were

-Mister Ocean

In post 2010, Dannflor wrote:

In post 2005, ManateeDude wrote:im still of the mindset dann was tmi'ed by wheme and im ready to believe theyre town for quite a while

how does this work with multi-ball

I find it hard to believe this is the only reason I went from 100% the elim today to your top town read category?

i mean............. thats kind of it. youve generally been pretty towny from my perspective though i really did not like what T3 did so i guess its a combination of my theory and warming up to your slot. i still dont think your slot is wolf based around what happened, and my theory is that wheme is specifically mafia

In post 2005, ManateeDude wrote:I think my issue when playing mafia is i really easily develop townreads on people but noting things i scumread is a lot harder :/

but most of your post is about things that you scum read ;~;

-Mister Ocean

In post 2014, Celestial Powerhouse wrote:

In post 2005, ManateeDude wrote:I think my issue when playing mafia is i really easily develop townreads on people but noting things i scumread is a lot harder :/

but most of your post is about things that you scum read ;~;

-Mister Ocean

yeah i tend to actively engage with things i scumread though i dont point out things i townread. when i end up posting a larger readlist like that one i realize the aforementioned statement

In post 2007, Echolocation wrote:If you want my opinions on anything just ask me, my engagement with this game will probably be minimal.

can you read pooky

In post 2013, ManateeDude wrote:

In post 2010, Dannflor wrote:

In post 2005, ManateeDude wrote:im still of the mindset dann was tmi'ed by wheme and im ready to believe theyre town for quite a while

how does this work with multi-ball

I find it hard to believe this is the only reason I went from 100% the elim today to your top town read category?

i mean............. thats kind of it. youve generally been pretty towny from my perspective though i really did not like what T3 did so i guess its a combination of my theory and warming up to your slot. i still dont think your slot is wolf based around what happened, and my theory is that wheme is specifically mafia

I feel like Manatee has been asked about this post like at least 4 times now (one of which admittedly was from me lol)


T3's "slip" post would make T3/you specifically Mafia.

In post 83, T3 wrote:Anyways, I think we should try to kill the

werewolves.

So she is saying that members of the Mafia could TMI that T3 was bullshitting there.

I do not agree with her conclusions, but she has explained this a couple of times.

In post 2017, Lukewarm wrote:

In post 2013, ManateeDude wrote:

In post 2010, Dannflor wrote:

In post 2005, ManateeDude wrote:im still of the mindset dann was tmi'ed by wheme and im ready to believe theyre town for quite a while

how does this work with multi-ball

I find it hard to believe this is the only reason I went from 100% the elim today to your top town read category?

i mean............. thats kind of it. youve generally been pretty towny from my perspective though i really did not like what T3 did so i guess its a combination of my theory and warming up to your slot. i still dont think your slot is wolf based around what happened, and my theory is that wheme is specifically mafia

I feel like Manatee has been asked about this post like at least 4 times now (one of which admittedly was from me lol)


T3's "slip" post would make T3/you specifically Mafia.

In post 83, T3 wrote:Anyways, I think we should try to kill the

werewolves.

So she is saying that members of the Mafia could TMI that T3 was bullshitting there.

I do not agree with her conclusions, but she has explained this a couple of times.

I guess not this post specifically, but on what she meant by tmi in a multi-ball game

right, but... we can't assume Wheme is mafia if he's scum - that's more what I'm getting at

but i think he has tmi... thats part of my scumread on him

In post 2013, ManateeDude wrote:

In post 2010, Dannflor wrote:

In post 2005, ManateeDude wrote:im still of the mindset dann was tmi'ed by wheme and im ready to believe theyre town for quite a while

how does this work with multi-ball

I find it hard to believe this is the only reason I went from 100% the elim today to your top town read category?

i mean............. thats kind of it. youve generally been pretty towny from my perspective though i really did not like what T3 did so i guess its a combination of my theory and warming up to your slot. i still dont think your slot is wolf based around what happened, and my theory is that wheme is specifically mafia

okay. I can see it. and I missed the part where your theory was specifically that he was mafia

I'll be honest in that I'm not sure personally that your theory has a ton of weight

but I have also been in that exact situation before where I have a slightly convoluted theory that I increasingly conf-bias into (whether you're right or not) and get super excited about it

also I guess scum are less likely to suddenly put one of their top scum reads as one of their top town reads out of moon-logic type progression

In post 2007, Echolocation wrote:If you want my opinions on anything just ask me, my engagement with this game will probably be minimal.

What have you chosen to skim/read thus far

Mastina entry defending Dann reeks.

What does scum Ythan look like

Tonally speaking you're pretty pure