3d20 – The Great Board Game War [GAME OVER]


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Post Post #2000 (ISO) » Sat Sep 11, 2021 9:57 am

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I'm town Rampaging Parity cop. I targeted Kyo both nights. N1 she got no visitors. N2 she had one visitor visible to me, and that visitor had a different alignment than Kyo. Kyo is claiming she was roleblocked. Obviously if that's a lie, she's scum. If that visitor was Mara, then Kyo is scum because Mara flipped town. If that visitor was Gamma, then gamma is scum because they're the only other roleblocker and they're lying about targeting RMH.

The possibility of a bus driver muddies things, but I think it's most likely that Gamma is scum and lied about being a bus driver. Even if there's a bus driver, we effectively have 2 1v1s. Redtea vs Nero and Gamma vs Kyo and the bus driver couldn't have swapped people in a way that makes both of these 1v1s TvT. I think flipping Gamma is the correct first move because that will help us confirm the existence of a bus driver. If they flip town, then I think it's most likely Kyo is scum.
But I also think Gamma & Nero make the most sense as remaining scum partners
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Post Post #2001 (ISO) » Sat Sep 11, 2021 9:59 am

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So Nero's roll or SirCakez roll (assuming he told the truth) would be possible for Redtea's claim. Marashu's roll confirms the existence of an even-night parity cop, so unless there's a CC I believe Nero.
We live in at least one of the following worlds: redtea scum, Nero scum, or 3p bus driver exists. Idk what to do with that exactly
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Post Post #2002 (ISO) » Sat Sep 11, 2021 9:59 am

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In post 2000, Dragon of the West wrote:I'm town Rampaging Parity cop. I targeted Kyo both nights. N1 she got no visitors. N2 she had one visitor visible to me, and that visitor had a different alignment than Kyo. Kyo is claiming she was roleblocked. Obviously if that's a lie, she's scum. If that visitor was Mara, then Kyo is scum because Mara flipped town. If that visitor was Gamma, then gamma is scum because they're the only other roleblocker and they're lying about targeting RMH.

The possibility of a bus driver muddies things, but I think it's most likely that Gamma is scum and lied about being a bus driver. Even if there's a bus driver, we effectively have 2 1v1s. Redtea vs Nero and Gamma vs Kyo and the bus driver couldn't have swapped people in a way that makes both of these 1v1s TvT. I think flipping Gamma is the correct first move because that will help us confirm the existence of a bus driver. If they flip town, then I think it's most likely Kyo is scum.
But I also think Gamma & Nero make the most sense as remaining scum partners
I missed the claims. Did Gamma say they targeted Kyo last night?
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Post Post #2003 (ISO) » Sat Sep 11, 2021 10:01 am

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In post 1989, Gamma Emerald wrote:I’m 4 shot, and yes I targeted RMH last night
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Post Post #2004 (ISO) » Sat Sep 11, 2021 10:05 am

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I think if town visited Kyo they should claim they did so
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Post Post #2005 (ISO) » Sat Sep 11, 2021 10:10 am

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In post 2000, Dragon of the West wrote:Gamma is scum and lied about
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Post Post #2006 (ISO) » Sat Sep 11, 2021 10:11 am

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In post 1996, Dragon of the West wrote:One of Kyo or Gamma is scum
Walk me through how I'm scum with my claim
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Post Post #2007 (ISO) » Sat Sep 11, 2021 10:15 am

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Has everyone role claimed?
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Post Post #2008 (ISO) » Sat Sep 11, 2021 10:16 am

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guy has a result that either you or the person that targeted you is scum. Has nothing to do with your claim.
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Post Post #2009 (ISO) » Sat Sep 11, 2021 10:19 am

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Gamma Emerald-4x roleblocker
ssbm_Kyouko-even night tracker
Dwlee99-complex jailkeeper
Nero Cain-even night parity cop
Robert M Hunter-1x vig
Dragon of the West-rampaging parity cop
redtea-even night rolecop
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Post Post #2010 (ISO) » Sat Sep 11, 2021 10:24 am

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Mfw I realize that those are all on the list except for me and gamma
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Post Post #2011 (ISO) » Sat Sep 11, 2021 10:25 am

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Oh and vigilante.
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Post Post #2012 (ISO) » Sat Sep 11, 2021 10:26 am

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VOTE: Gamma
I feel comfortable voting here I think.
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Post Post #2013 (ISO) » Sat Sep 11, 2021 10:28 am

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gammas claimed role is RMH's claimed roll
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Post Post #2014 (ISO) » Sat Sep 11, 2021 10:28 am

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Honestly if Gamma flips red it doesn't clear Kyo either...because Mara could have still been the one to target Kyo...I thought Kyo was mega scummy for derailing the Gamma wagon yesterday and turned it into a Thor mislim. I wonder if Mara thought the same thing and used his roleblock on Kyo
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Post Post #2015 (ISO) » Sat Sep 11, 2021 10:29 am

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Well Gamma's role is 4-shot and RMH claimed no modifiers.

Oh hm maybe Kyo is a better vote cause the roleblock could have been Marashu?
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Post Post #2016 (ISO) » Sat Sep 11, 2021 10:33 am

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VOTE: kyo
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Post Post #2017 (ISO) » Sat Sep 11, 2021 10:34 am

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I also thinks she just makes a ton of sense as scum playwise as well. And I like to be right. :lol:
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Post Post #2018 (ISO) » Sat Sep 11, 2021 10:34 am

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VOTE: Kyo
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Post Post #2019 (ISO) » Sat Sep 11, 2021 10:36 am

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In post 2009, Nero Cain wrote:Gamma Emerald-4x roleblocker
ssbm_Kyouko-even night tracker
Dwlee99-complex jailkeeper
Nero Cain-even night parity cop
Robert M Hunter-1x vig
Dragon of the West-rampaging parity cop
redtea-even night rolecop
Putting it together with rolls:
Gamma - Cult Multitasking Bus Driver, unconfirmed
Kyo - Mafia parity cop, fudged/confirmed
Dwlee - rampaging parity cop, confirmed
Nero - ugly rolecop, fudged/claimed
RMH - 1d4 roleblocker, claimed
DotW - Doubled neighborizer, confirmed
Redtea - Mafia fruit vendor, unconfirmed
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Post Post #2020 (ISO) » Sat Sep 11, 2021 10:37 am

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if kyo flips scum then it just resolves that 1v1 but like DOTW says if we flip Gamma and he's town then it doesn't and its just that mara targeted her.
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Post Post #2021 (ISO) » Sat Sep 11, 2021 10:38 am

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A scum flip either way doesn’t resolve the 1v1 tbh
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Post Post #2022 (ISO) » Sat Sep 11, 2021 10:39 am

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In post 2015, Dwlee99 wrote:Well Gamma's role is 4-shot and RMH claimed no modifiers.

Oh hm maybe Kyo is a better vote cause the roleblock could have been Marashu?
I think the bus driver messiness means it makes sense to go Gamma first

Pedit: if we flip Gamma and he's town then Kyo is scum unless bus driver got her N2
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Post Post #2023 (ISO) » Sat Sep 11, 2021 10:40 am

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In post 2021, Gamma Emerald wrote:A scum flip either way doesn’t resolve the 1v1 tbh
This is true but it also can come from scum to make sure a mislim is left on the table if it's TvS and they're limmed first
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Post Post #2024 (ISO) » Sat Sep 11, 2021 10:40 am

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If bus driver and roleblock then either the 3p role is a combined roleblocker bus driver (not the case) or two people would have visited Kyo, not one. So there wasn't any bus driving.
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