Mafiascum.net

In post 1998, Taly wrote:

In post 1993, T-Bone wrote:

In post 1991, Taly wrote:pooky/t-bone i want to hear your take of marci!scum

I'ma be honest I don't know who Marci is.

off the hook

hydra

In post 1998, Taly wrote:honestly the vibe in our PT feels moment-to-moment but im trying to avoid paranoia as much as possible.

In post 1998, Taly wrote:pooky's the closest to build a consensus actively within this plist, you think that is town or scum motivated?

In post 1999, Dancing Puppets wrote:

In post 1991, Taly wrote:

johnny

did you get to my thoughts about slots im familiar with earlier?

i vaguely skimmed

BBT's

takedown on a post, i dont think "LAMIST" is ever an appropriate depiction of my playstyle.

cor

, you made a post implying you felt the same but wanted

BBT

to expand - what is your vex with me?

pooky/t-bone

i want to hear your take of

marci

!scum

kind of lost on the

johnny

scumreads

I read those as joke posts re: Marci.

I don’t think he is either. Think Cephir could be town because he sounds different than in PA. I’m so lost as to who’s scum. :/

In post 1704, Taly wrote:? null
Klick ***
MalcolmTucker
Cephrir ***
Malakittens
PenguinPower ***
Frogsterking
Cat Scratch Fever ***
Enchant

- null
BlueBlooded Toffee
The Toad
OffTheHook
T-Bone

T-Bone wrote:

In post 1998, Taly wrote:

In post 1993, T-Bone wrote:

In post 1991, Taly wrote:pooky/t-bone i want to hear your take of marci!scum

I'ma be honest I don't know who Marci is.

off the hook

hydra

I was joking cause they are in a hydra.

I have Off the Hook as a scumlean but I don't remember why off the top of my head and I haven't reevaluated as of yet since I haven't found anything they've posted recently that caught my eye. But like if you have a meta reason for reading them town, that doesn't resonate with me, so I couldn't engage you on that point.

JohnnyFarrar wrote:

In post 1998, Taly wrote:honestly the vibe in our PT feels moment-to-moment but im trying to avoid paranoia as much as possible.

I sympathize

In post 1998, Taly wrote:pooky's the closest to build a consensus actively within this plist, you think that is town or scum motivated?

I like pooky for town. The list would be a brilliant thing to hide behind as scum, but I think he's being forthcoming with his own thoughts as well

In post 2003, Taly wrote:but 6-7 seem safe

In post 1, Save The Dragons wrote:1. Roles are not revealed upon kills, but alignment is. There may or may not be ways to uncover roles. Flavor is not revealed upon flip.

2. There are 5 mafia and 21 town.

3. This game is bastard because it contains something bastard. It is relatively minor, don't expect tons of bastard mechanics.
4. Mafia is not determined by flavor. That means roles were mostly selected at random to determine which roles would be mafia.
5. There are ways for dead players to interact with the game, so it's important to not spoil anything or talk about the game while it's ongoing with anyone.
6. There is at least 1 vanilla townie in this game. The vanilla townie role PM looks like this:
7. Daychat and multitasking are in effect.

Spoiler: cursed GIF

Dancing Puppets wrote:

Spoiler:

In post 1995, Taly wrote:

In post 1772, Dancing Puppets wrote:

In post 1580, Taly wrote:

taly's besties

gamma:

passive vibes, especially from that

"hello taly"

post. I get the impression their mentality towards mafia has changed from last year where we played several games as opposing alignments. I missed their thought on

Titus

head in the skim and inquire on that.

marcistar:

I don't feel much depth to their questions or the opinions they've given, IE, skimming the hydra I don't know their reads well. I also see a lack of townreads despite the volume of people they're talking to.

OTH, vibe with me bbs<3

-townreads
-energy level/WIM
-memes

galron:

Coming from someone who has hydra'd with

Galron

before, I see nothing in

Galron's

ISO that's atypical. Doesn't like to give info about townreads but I am curious about

Klick

. What townpings is the consistency with

Rad

-town and

Frogs

-scum. I feel good about doubling down on my initial T/T read of

Gal/Rad

but I'd like to hear more from them about other slots. (Does "null" equal no thoughts or net neutral?) But I don't think that's very productive approach in sorting him this early in a large playerlist.

Galron

,

Frogs

PoE was 1000 posts ago, do you think their progression matches that original post?

titus:

TI

TU

S

I

EXI

ST

<3

. i declare myself a

titus

whisperer, my read on her is law.

nancy:

isn't mercilessly beating down players with scrutiny, so +town

ALSO HI NANCY <3

dwlee:

drowned out by the playerlist as expected, me want them around when they feel good i feel confident in my ability to sort them with some tea and lemon cakes.

dunn:

Much more active than scumgames I've seen of them and is attentive to how people respond to their roles and mechanics, which was different from how they approached a scumgame like Slaughter Hour. I'm not worried with this slot off their posts thus far. I'll be honest, this isn't an in-depth read specifically because

Dunn

is more active off first glance and so my initial ping is town, me no want to vote, me move on. I think someone voted

Dunn

? If so, I'd like to hear why.

pooky

poopy:

my strategy is to just meme until the vibe is off. me have done ugly TvTs and me have been fence-sitty T/T besties with this one. i dont have a strong first-hand perspective of their scumplay but their push for content is helpful in discerning a motive.

theMAFIAbear

, what do you get out of having the thread spew a readslist?

bell:

My focus is to parse the origin of their caution towards this slot and how that progresses to see if it comes from an informed perspective. So far I got townpings but I'm still thinking.

I just realized

Toog

has only posted twice and now I'm tilting my head at the suspicion there.

I'm failing to see the issue with

Toog's

413 since it's practically standalone, there was not much time for

Toog

to follow-up with his perspective before an accident (I hope he's okay ). And as a first post, the context of claiming role information and conflating it with alignment has a town motive in gauging reactions.

johnnyfarrar:

johnny

you prompted this from me, so thoughts?
rough feels of this group is that I'm still sorting but they're either null or townlean. which is interesting as that implies scum are players i am unfamiliar with.

i also have some familiarity with

ceph/penguin/mala/enchant

but nothing to construct much insight into them as a player.

Interesting post. Do I actually “beat down players with scrutiny as scum”? That’s actually news to me but your read is still right regardless.

I don’t know what you’re seeing BBT, this looks like Taly in pretty much every towngame I’ve played with them.

its akin to that

"you use a magnifying glass as town V something else as scum"

analogy

any read outside of your slot that you disagree with?

I think you said that scum!me is like hot knife through butter and town!me looks at everything through a magnifying glass. I ought to know it’s in my sigline.

To answer your question, I’m pretty much vibing with this read. I think J probably misconstrued your earlier comment about me, which is why I was confused.

I would be more than happy to mercilessly beat down scum, once I have a much more confident idea on who they are.

One thing I don’t vibe with you on is your Pooky read, I think he’s seems pretty town here. At first I also didn’t get wtf he was doing with that but it reminds me of Ari in PYP, she also made a lot of charts in that. Pooky also lacks that menacing tone he has as scum. Maybe the readslist thing could possibly be role related? \_0_/

In post 2010, Dancing Puppets wrote:

Spoiler:

In post 2008, Taly wrote:

In post 1, Save The Dragons wrote:1. Roles are not revealed upon kills, but alignment is. There may or may not be ways to uncover roles. Flavor is not revealed upon flip.

2. There are 5 mafia and 21 town.

3. This game is bastard because it contains something bastard. It is relatively minor, don't expect tons of bastard mechanics.
4. Mafia is not determined by flavor. That means roles were mostly selected at random to determine which roles would be mafia.
5. There are ways for dead players to interact with the game, so it's important to not spoil anything or talk about the game while it's ongoing with anyone.
6. There is at least 1 vanilla townie in this game. The vanilla townie role PM looks like this:
7. Daychat and multitasking are in effect.

[cursed GIF]

pedit

Dancing Puppets wrote:

Spoiler:

In post 1995, Taly wrote:

In post 1772, Dancing Puppets wrote:

In post 1580, Taly wrote:

taly's besties

gamma:

passive vibes, especially from that

"hello taly"

post. I get the impression their mentality towards mafia has changed from last year where we played several games as opposing alignments. I missed their thought on

Titus

head in the skim and inquire on that.

marcistar:

I don't feel much depth to their questions or the opinions they've given, IE, skimming the hydra I don't know their reads well. I also see a lack of townreads despite the volume of people they're talking to.

OTH, vibe with me bbs<3

-townreads
-energy level/WIM
-memes

galron:

Coming from someone who has hydra'd with

Galron

before, I see nothing in

Galron's

ISO that's atypical. Doesn't like to give info about townreads but I am curious about

Klick

. What townpings is the consistency with

Rad

-town and

Frogs

-scum. I feel good about doubling down on my initial T/T read of

Gal/Rad

but I'd like to hear more from them about other slots. (Does "null" equal no thoughts or net neutral?) But I don't think that's very productive approach in sorting him this early in a large playerlist.

Galron

,

Frogs

PoE was 1000 posts ago, do you think their progression matches that original post?

titus:

TI

TU

S

I

EXI

ST

<3

. i declare myself a

titus

whisperer, my read on her is law.

nancy:

isn't mercilessly beating down players with scrutiny, so +town

ALSO HI NANCY <3

dwlee:

drowned out by the playerlist as expected, me want them around when they feel good i feel confident in my ability to sort them with some tea and lemon cakes.

dunn:

Much more active than scumgames I've seen of them and is attentive to how people respond to their roles and mechanics, which was different from how they approached a scumgame like Slaughter Hour. I'm not worried with this slot off their posts thus far. I'll be honest, this isn't an in-depth read specifically because

Dunn

is more active off first glance and so my initial ping is town, me no want to vote, me move on. I think someone voted

Dunn

? If so, I'd like to hear why.

pooky

poopy:

my strategy is to just meme until the vibe is off. me have done ugly TvTs and me have been fence-sitty T/T besties with this one. i dont have a strong first-hand perspective of their scumplay but their push for content is helpful in discerning a motive.

theMAFIAbear

, what do you get out of having the thread spew a readslist?

bell:

My focus is to parse the origin of their caution towards this slot and how that progresses to see if it comes from an informed perspective. So far I got townpings but I'm still thinking.

I just realized

Toog

has only posted twice and now I'm tilting my head at the suspicion there.

I'm failing to see the issue with

Toog's

413 since it's practically standalone, there was not much time for

Toog

to follow-up with his perspective before an accident (I hope he's okay ). And as a first post, the context of claiming role information and conflating it with alignment has a town motive in gauging reactions.

johnnyfarrar:

johnny

you prompted this from me, so thoughts?
rough feels of this group is that I'm still sorting but they're either null or townlean. which is interesting as that implies scum are players i am unfamiliar with.

i also have some familiarity with

ceph/penguin/mala/enchant

but nothing to construct much insight into them as a player.

Interesting post. Do I actually “beat down players with scrutiny as scum”? That’s actually news to me but your read is still right regardless.

I don’t know what you’re seeing BBT, this looks like Taly in pretty much every towngame I’ve played with them.

its akin to that

"you use a magnifying glass as town V something else as scum"

analogy

any read outside of your slot that you disagree with?

I think you said that scum!me is like hot knife through butter and town!me looks at everything through a magnifying glass. I ought to know it’s in my sigline.

To answer your question, I’m pretty much vibing with this read. I think J probably misconstrued your earlier comment about me, which is why I was confused.

I would be more than happy to mercilessly beat down scum, once I have a much more confident idea on who they are.

One thing I don’t vibe with you on is your Pooky read, I think he’s seems pretty town here. At first I also didn’t get wtf he was doing with that but it reminds me of Ari in PYP, she also made a lot of charts in that. Pooky also lacks that menacing tone he has as scum. Maybe the readslist thing could possibly be role related? \_0_/

oh i felt better with

pooky

!town after they gave me like 6 reasons to suggest why doing a readslist is good.

tbh i get the argument that, yes, readslists from all players are very effective for scum to manuver, but for a D1 with 26p, it feels necessary and pro-town

It’s not his asking for the readslists themselves that I tr, it’s what he did with them: the graphs. He’s keeping an ongoing record of the gamestate - something that is generally counterintuitive for scum to do.

Bell wrote:Pooky does that as scum too, tho usually later in the game. Sometimes as cover while calling other ppl lazy.
I’m correcting the record.

In post 2011, T-Bone wrote:Explain that please. Why?

In post 2012, Bell wrote:Pooky does that as scum too, tho usually later in the game. Sometimes as cover while calling other ppl lazy.
I’m correcting the record.

In post 2017, JohnnyFarrar wrote:

Spoiler: Johnny's Poe

BlueBloodedToffee
Dancing Puppets (Nancy Drew 39 and Titus)
Malakittens
MalcolmTucker
Off the Hook (Gamma Emerald and Marcistar)
Galron
Roden
The toad
Enchant
Dwlee99
Bellaphant
Klick
PenguinPower
Bell
Cephrir
Frogsterking

Spoiler: Taly's Poe

In post 2003, Taly wrote:Klick
MalcolmTucker
Cephrir
Malakittens
PenguinPower
Frogsterking
Cat Scratch Fever
Enchant
BlueBlooded Toffee
The Toad
OffTheHook
T-Bone

@Taly when comparing our lists, these are the people you've removed but I haven't:
Bell (we discussed, feel free to skip explanation)
Bellaphant
Roden
Galron
Mala
Nancy and Titus

Do you care to help me remove them from mine?

I'm missing:
T-Bone, and I don't think T-Bone scum goes after the post restricted Ircher slot. Seems actively un-fun, unless they're scum together but we're gonna save that paranoia for later

In post 2018, MalcolmTucker wrote:I agree with CSF and Frogster that Johnny's read on Frog seems quite weak. If nobody else had been particularly SR'ing the slot then I'd put it down to town just having a gut-read early on. But given Frog got quite a lot of attention early on I think it's possible Johnny saw some momentum on a player that looks townie now and felt like it would be an ideal place to put their vote as scum.

From one POV you'd expect them to have backed off by now considering there's essentially an admission their read isn't that strong, but I think it's also possible Johnny could be fairly self-aware scum here if they haven't pushed much elsewhere and want to look as if they're at least trying to maintain some sort of pressure on a slot.

In post 6, Cytosine and Guanine wrote:VOTE: Corwin
100 D1 Words Total PR Excluding Quotes (Jin)
-Guanine

In post 2017, JohnnyFarrar wrote:

Spoiler: Johnny's Poe

BlueBloodedToffee
Dancing Puppets (Nancy Drew 39 and Titus)
Malakittens
MalcolmTucker
Off the Hook (Gamma Emerald and Marcistar)
Galron
Roden
The toad
Enchant
Dwlee99
Bellaphant
Klick
PenguinPower
Bell
Cephrir
Frogsterking

Spoiler: Taly's Poe

In post 2003, Taly wrote:Klick
MalcolmTucker
Cephrir
Malakittens
PenguinPower
Frogsterking
Cat Scratch Fever
Enchant
BlueBlooded Toffee
The Toad
OffTheHook
T-Bone

@Taly when comparing our lists, these are the people you've removed but I haven't:
Bell (we discussed, feel free to skip explanation)
Bellaphant
Roden
Galron
Mala
Nancy and Titus

Do you care to help me remove them from mine?

I'm missing:
T-Bone, and I don't think T-Bone scum goes after the post restricted Ircher slot. Seems actively un-fun, unless they're scum together but we're gonna save that paranoia for later