it looks like you need to attend the next lecture in addition and subtraction.
Out of curiosity... would a Vanilla Cop find a Goon to be Vanilla? For some reason I'm thinking yes.. which would mean probably only traitor and or final scum found. Again 2-shot not that impressive anyways.. nor is a 1 shot vig where vigs hit town more oft than not. Balanceshmalance.
Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 3:59 am
by Benmage
In post 2012, Tammy wrote:Why? Why are you sucking up to the dead at? And why we're you sweating bullets in the wire? I was the one with the scum read on you. I was the one questioning you. Empire's gut might have been paranoid, but every time I brought up reasons why you were scum, he's the one who said your iso screamed town to him.
Empire seemed a lot more confident and level headed whereas you, like now second guess too much. i.e. I was more confident in playing you like a fiddle than I was Empire.. If you read the scumqt I mention that as reasoning for killing Plessie over you.
I MISSED ANOTHER great question brought to us by TAMMY!!!!!!! Let's see... I talked to the dead, like I talk to the mod, like I go on random tangents/posting sprees.. because I'm bored? (Plus I like to read the responses later if there are any) PHEW! That was a toughy... Now after that awesome question surely you must know my alignment! RIght?!?!
WOuld it help if I started claiming scum... would that make me town?
The next time you have a question, with an answer in mind.. pretend I gave you that answer.
In post 2018, Tammy wrote:Okay other than me being a bit crabby because I haven't slept yet and really need to,
I'm actually leaning town on both Ben and deasvail at the moment. I'll get back to this after some sleep.
Oh lol... Maybe I ought to start reading posts.... mmmm.... no promises.
So..
@Llamarable
I tink the ball is in your court now... You know that plan we talked about a week ago but opted to keep talking for a week for shits n giggles.. the one where Tammy wins if its her, otherwise shadoweh/dv goes and does it really matter at this point which first? I.E. VOTE SHADOWPUHLEASSSE
Your wahmbulance sounded genuine enough, thats the beauty of getting into a "shouting" match.. see if you take the blinders off you can read alignment (Its hard/ I'm good, as for taking credit sue me for not thinking everything should be a tie these days
*looking at you STILL Faraday*
... fucking Peyton manning wins a game with less than 15 minutes of offense. Instead of going "Ya well I'm the effing man"... its all the team was good the blocking the catching the yada yada team team coaching team....That is the modern mentality. All children tie. Then we grow up and wonder why we don't have a job and the economy sucks and everyone should be equal and everything should be free and a tie... because as kids we never appreciated competition/working hard to achieve things! (winning) Consider me an ancient fucking Greek. The Greeks turned everything into a competition. Killing the most people in battle/ Getting to the enemy lines first, dodging more enemy missiles... they didn't go it was the team derpherpderp. No they said FUCK did you see me I killed 30!! That guy over there only killed 29 see how awesome I am. The point is... It is okay to take credit for being good at things)
The point isn't that being proud of oneself when appropriate is bad.
You spent half of today insulting me when I've clearly done more to make town win this game than you have. That's just irritating.
Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 9:28 am
by Benmage
Cause I disagree that you did "more" to help this town win.
And*** it's you dragging your feet that is keeping us from winning.
Not to mention it's easy to call me the bad guy.. I embrace it, it's cool everyone's too hand-holding anyways. But don't act like non of your commentaries were belittling and that you're just a shining beacon of chivalry.
Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 9:44 am
by Llamarble
Yeah, I did belittle a bit. That is a fair statement.
I never thought of myself as a similar player to you before this game, but we do seem to have a lot of behaviors in common.
We're both kinda callous, we both don't always bother to explain our thoughts clearly, and we both have good results because we don't get lynched or NKed often and have solid reads.
Also inflated egos.
I'll reread this evening and we'll see where I get to.
Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 11:55 am
by Benmage
No comment on switching vote over to shadoweh? By your own logic it is literally, if not today than tomorrow win...
Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 1:06 pm
by Llamarble
I haven't totally ruled you out, mostly for lack of a strong enough positive on Shadoweh or DV.
A Shadoweh vote from me isn't all that unlikely. It could definitely be her.
Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 3:09 pm
by Shadoweh
In post 2015, Tammy wrote:Deasvail who would you have left alive here at the end?
Shadoweh you keep saying you would have killed me first. Why?
Kind of busy and literally woke up thirty minutes ago literally don't have time to read anything yet, but to answer this because at the time you would have been the person I saw as most likely to not stop being on me. Kind of like how you've decided I'm the worst right now? (The thing about Tierce was a joke about who would be worth more entertainment value)
..Are we talking about there only being three scum now? What the fuck kind of koolaid do you guys get off on when I'm asleep seriously?
Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 6:03 pm
by Shadoweh
Mmm, you're talking about magical autowin lynching again. Right now I'm stalling becausse Deasvail's posst isn't what I would expect from him as scum.. at all.. and I'm just going in circles because there aren't other options. But it doesn't look like anyone else is going to turn this car around so back to the reading board. i'm jusst missing anotheer point of reference.
Ben: I'm pretty sure people answered the question about the cop earlier in that Goons don't have Vanilla in their name and the cop worked that way in some other game. You would know that if you'd ever read anything. And yes, it does read as if you're trying for Refuge in Audacity. Your plan for Tammy auto-winning also auto-wins you, you know.
Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 6:45 pm
by Shadoweh
God damn I really want you to be scum Benmage. I really want it and it's just not happening. There is just no way you and The Wire are the same Benmage. It's not even just the middle game reaction or the difference in the end game spamming (which you are mimicing right now and should stop) it's even the language between. It makes me sick to my stomach how impossible it is for me to believe you're scum. Are you just trying to annoy the everloving hell out of Tammy until she votes you or do you actually have a point in trying to belittle her until she goes insane? I was doing it because I suspected her.
Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 7:10 pm
by Shadoweh
Tammy did you know when you're scum you sound like you're permenantly tipsy?
##Vote: Deasvail
Sorry buddy but you're the only one who sounds close to scum you. Well maybe Llamarble does because I haven't looked for one of his scum games but I -think- I can trust him on this one. Benmage doesn't sound British and Tammy doesn't sound wishy washy enough. I guess in theory we'd still win even if you doofuses throw me off the bus again, but I said that about OGML too and I'd really like for that wagon dodge to actually last instead of being delaying the inevitable.
Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 7:12 pm
by Shadoweh
And I wish it didn't have to be this waaaay, quick trade role pm's with Benmage, Faraday won't notice he's too drunk. Then we can all have a happy ending!
Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 7:21 pm
by Shadoweh
PS: I would say something in my defense from these terrible accusations of my character, except there's still no reason being presented to vote me besides 'let's wrap this game up and vote Shadoweh/whoever for the win!'. It's frustrating that I'm the only one who seems to be having a conversation with people here.
Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2013 12:39 am
by Faraday
Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2013 1:20 am
by DeasVail
Shadoweh, if you're town, you need to reconsider Benmage. You and I both know that if I'm lynched today, it's probably not going to be Benmage that's lynched tomorrow.
Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2013 1:55 am
by Tammy
Which game were you looking at shadoweh? Sounding tipsy and being wishy washy actually aren't scumtells for me. I'm probably wishy washy in a different way when scum, but yeah.
I'm having a bit of a problem in that everyone here sounds town to varying degrees. I'm still bothered by shadoweh's early play and the seeming to not read the game and some of the off meta accusations. I'm still bothered by ctd's treatment of deasvail as well as nachos. I'm still bothered by Benmages attitude, but that's not alignment relevant. I just wanted to register being bothered. :p. And I know I'm voting shadoweh, and that empire gave a really good town read to deasvail which I'm taking into account, but in the overall scheme of things he makes sense as scum here.
I'm actually starting to get paranoid that the scum team was given an extra kill, but I'm not sure how likely that is. So if anyone wants to talk me down from this ledge I'd appreciate it.
I'm giving the last of my final exams today, so I'll be able to give more attention to this tomorrow. It will be a nice break from grading.
Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2013 2:26 am
by Tammy
I totally was going to comment on the whole benmage is ancient Greece thing and about how the hubris of at least one city state helped to lead to its weakening, and how the inability to work together and stop fighting each other and make good decisions helped to weaken Hellas as a whole so that they became pretty easy fodder for invaders and was able to be colonized. I even had a nice Trojan war reference and how those who rode in the Trojan horse don't get credit for creating the Trojan horse. But it's lost some of its pizzazz now. Actually it never had it, and I only need the tiniest provocation to talk about ancient Greece.
Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2013 3:05 am
by Benmage
FINALLY!!!
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unvote vote Deavsail
The trend of suspecting benmage and being lynched continues! Huzzahscrubs.
Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2013 3:07 am
by Benmage
Tammy dodged my question. (seehoweasyitistopaintpeoplescummy)
Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2013 3:21 am
by Faraday
Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2013 3:46 am
by Faraday
Deasvail -
Mafia Goon
was lynched Day 6.
A win Condition has been reached. The
Town
have won!
Llamarble -
1-shot vigilante
, survived and won!
Tammy -
Vanilla Townie
, survived and won!
Benmage -
Vanilla Townie
, survived and won
Shadoweh -
Vanilla Townie
, survived and won!
Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2013 3:55 am
by Faraday
Setup:
1 x 2-shot Vanilla Cop (Gets vanilla/not vanilla)
1 x 1-shot vig
1 x Town tracker
1 x town roleblocker
8 x vt
3 x mafia goons. No Daytalk. Know of traitors existence. Know he's not recrutiable.
1 x unrecruitable traitor. Knows mafia.