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In post 2021, BROseidon wrote:I'm pointing out that your 2015 is predicated on me not having claimed yet.

Which is false.

Do you want to try to manipulate narrative further?

Everyone knows that i wasn't here on Day1
So.. if there is any room for MANIPULATION... Everyone knows that it is you doing it now to SAVE your ARSE!!!!

It's not a counter claim if you're just saying "he's faking a result."

Like, what should I expect scum to do, say "Oh yes, he caught me. Now I'll just lie down and get lynched."

pedit: I CLAIMED AFTER YOU JOINED THE GAME. ARE YOU JUST NOT READING MY POSTS?????

LIKE HOLY SHIT, WTF IS THIS SHIT.

In post 2023, pieguyn wrote:and I seriously can't see how a 1-shot flavor cop is a good idea in a setup where bork explicitly said it was a bad thing for people to know flavor knowledge. IMO the situation of scum getting some benefit if they know someone's flavor is the most likely.

Even with the claim yesterday I was thinking we should lynch BRO until all that crap with wayne.

In post 2024, morph the cat wrote:

In post 2018, ArcAngel9 wrote:

In post 2013, morph the cat wrote:

In post 2007, pieguyn wrote:ohok

now can we be sure that BRO isn't just pulling a gambit to score a mislynch, since he was more than likely going to get lynched anyway?

No we can't be sure. Does it make sense for him to do this on day 2, though? With 11 alive, it's probably 8-3. If AA is town and we lynch her, then tomorrow would be 6-3 with a BRO autolynch on deck.

ffery, You know me verywell..... I am town. and I believe you're too. And I need you to join with me and lynch this scum RAT right now.
Remember the games when we teamed up as town.. We will win this... now join me!!

I want Cabd to catch up on the game and then he and I need to talk.

I also want Nacho's opinion. Some of the stuff you've said very much resonates as your town game. In fact even the phrasing of some of your posts reminds me of when you were mislynched in the Hyrule game.

I'd like for Mac to have a look and think about that game too.

I can bet with my life to say that Nacho will vote BRO and will tell you that I am town. there is no deal to that part.
Anyone who knows me in this game tells you that I am town and my argument is logical.

I will tear this world if i have to but I AM HAVING THIS SCUM BRO LYNCHED TODAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

In post 2026, BROseidon wrote:It's not a counter claim if you're just saying "he's faking a result."

Like, what should I expect scum to do, say "Oh yes, he caught me. Now I'll just lie down and get lynched."

pedit: I CLAIMED AFTER YOU JOINED THE GAME. ARE YOU JUST NOT READING MY POSTS?????

Join and playing.. they are two different things!!!!
And I dont expect you to notice that becuz your the SCUM RAT!!!!

wayne this is why it's better to just be honest about shit like this as town

In post 1994, Mac wrote:im just gonna go right on and ignore arcangel for the rest of this game.

Stuff like this, Mac? Is one reason I think you could be scum. Because this isn't pro-town. At all. Even remotely so. AA9 is not a player you want to ignore. Period. She's a competent town player, and surprisingly-effective scum player, both assuming she has her head in the game. Which...she is doing.

In post 1995, BROseidon wrote:I'm a 1-shot flavor cop.
I use my 1-shot on you because I'm not going to be able to read you w/o it.

Why, of all people, AA? Why not someone like me? Or zMuff? Or Psychlone? Or Mac? Or, hell, even TNE? Why AA9?

There's zero town motivation for her to be your first target, but plenty of scum motivation present.

In post 1999, pieguyn wrote:

@Mac:

I could see TNE just derping around the whole night. seems like something he'd do as town or scum. so I'm not sure on him atm, especially if BRO flips scum

This is something I didn't want to bring up. I was kinda waiting to see what TNE would say, if TNE would say anything at all. (I sorta picked up the gut vibe from Mac's description that TNE is flaking.) But it's what I was thinking as well, though my opinion of it is that if true, TNE is town.

Also. Mac was a town role with a neighborize ability last game. He'd be the LAST person I'd think would call TNE scum for it in this game, another reason I'm strongly considering Mac for being scum.

In post 2007, pieguyn wrote:now can we be sure that BRO isn't just pulling a gambit to score a mislynch, since he was more than likely going to get lynched anyway?

Case-'n'-point: Antihero Reboot Mafia, where AngryPidgeon used this exact same tactic to get Thor mislynched and sow the seeds of discord in the town. Before BROseidon goes "But I'm not AP!", a reminder that he himself has admitted that AP and he have become eerily similar thanks to the AFB hydra between the two, and AP could have even cited this move somewhere in their dialogs with one another.

In post 2008, pieguyn wrote:like I don't see how a flavor cop is a town role in this setup. we already had a watcher, and there was a big fkin warning saying not to flavor claim. > <

Precisely. BRO is not scum for the claim, but the claim indicates he is scum. BRO is not scum for his play, but his play indicates he is scum. BRO is not scum for the handling of the claim and the interactions yesterday and the wagons formed to counter his, but they indicate he is scum. When combined together, you get one simple fact.

BROseidon. is. scum.

In post 2027, BROseidon wrote:LIKE HOLY SHIT, WTF IS THIS SHIT.

Shut up you SCUM dog!!!!

AA9 IT'S ON:

In post 2032, mastin2 wrote:Why, of all people, AA? Why not someone like me? Or zMuff? Or Psychlone? Or Mac? Or, hell, even TNE? Why AA9?

There's zero town motivation for her to be your first target, but plenty of scum motivation present.

I had 1 shot. I'm using it on the person I'm most confident I'm not going to be able to read otherwise.

Also Mastin you're scum for playing dumb on morph's crumb.

And for those of you who're too lazy to track down the game, read AP's posting from here-onward, where he makes the claim.

Same damn thing here. Except that BROseidon is almost certainly not lying about his role. Just his results. Because there's another situation this is similar to. With a SIMILAR SCUM-ORIENTED POWER. The recently-completed Xenogears mafia which featured...yep! You guessed it. A mafia. Rolecop. Yeah, rolecop not quite the same as flavorcop. Yeah, non-consecutive is different from 1-shot. But the basics are the same.

BROseidon. is. confscum.

I still think my VCA seems pretty accurate

that BRO wagon took forever and then everyone just jumped on wayne when that wagon started taking off. I get a totally different vibe from the two wagons there.

inb4 both BRO and AA9 are scum and they're just mindfucking the shit out of all of us

In post 1753, BROseidon wrote:Fuck this shit I'm claiming:

I'm a 1-shot flavor cop you bitches.

AA didn't post in the game after BRO claimed.

But, I don't get how she could figure out that the wayne wagon was terrible without seeing WHY the BRO wagon faded - it was a combination of BRO's claim and Wayne's derpy reaction to his not noticing pieguyn said he had counterclaimed cop instead of watcher.

In post 1957, ArcAngel9 wrote:

In post 1956, morph the cat wrote:

In post 1955, ArcAngel9 wrote:

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In post 1951, ArcAngel9 wrote:I can assume why i wasn't the nightkill choice..
and what exactly you find cheeky in me?

Being all fuck you I'm not catching up after day 1 ended.

you read me wrong. I never said that i wont catch up.. I said i will ISO whoever I feel it is must.
there are benefits in this way..

A) I am active this way more
B) this is far better idea becuz if i re-read, i will mess up my reads by mixing early d1 discussions which are not the same after three filps..

No, I'm talking about your not catching up during night 1.

Moot point, though. You didn't.

Mac made it clear that his vote on TNE has to do with being neighborized by TNE and then nothing happening in the neighborhood qt.

Yes, I didn't becuz i didn't care.
I very pissed that this group didn't wait even after i said there is a day left and i asked them to wait. I was at work, I went home..had my dinner and decided to quickly skim through but there it was.. A Quick wagon built out of no where... suddenly BRO wagon vanished and a townie got lynched. Now after three filps.. I rather want to continue in my fashion then mixing up my thoughts by reading early d1 gambits.

If MAC is neighborized with TNE, that explains one of them is totally Town. it is possible both of them could be town...
I want to know more about this flip.. Were there nieghbours on their choice? or did Mac made him as his neighbour and viceversa?

In post 1974, ArcAngel9 wrote:Well, its too soon for me to get a list but i have my doubts..
there is more i need to check especially about Varason.. I wonder if mafia choice to kill him was anything releated to his post or just random.
as of now.. BRO is in my scum list. His goal seems to frame a townie and save his ass. I still can't believe how he managed to flip his wagon on to waynee so quickly.

In post 2036, BROseidon wrote:Also Mastin you're scum for playing dumb on morph's crumb.

I'm ignoring their crumb. There are roles they can be. I have ideas. But I'm specifically AVOIDING figuring it out, because it's a town claim, and that's all I need to know. They're town. I'm town. So I don't about the specifics of their role.

Okay. Not quite ignoring. I've acknowledged it, and have it in my mind on occasion. But it's basically a non-factor.

1) Xenogears didn't have a role cop.

2) AP and I are different players with different playstyles. I only play like him when I'm in hydra with him; I do the same thing with penguin when I'm in hydra with penguin. I'm pretty sure this'll continue as a trend as I gain more hydras.

what the fuck does me being a neighbourizer last game have ANYTHING to do with this game, mastin? seriously, you're actively looking for reasons to find me scum and manipulating evidence in your favour.

if role x was town last game, is it autotown this time?

im not ignoring arc for what it's worth, im just bored of her attitude towards me. i said that out of frustration.. also it looks to me like she doesn't have her head in the game, since, you know, she hasn't read day one.

ffery - i agree it seems similar from memory. i have no problems reading that game again buuuut im tired atm. also, fyi, you are the townread i've kinda 180'd on.

p-edit - i think im the only person in this game unaware of morph's crumb.

In post 2034, BROseidon wrote:AA9 IT'S ON:

BRO,

You better BACKOFF!!!!

STOP WITH THE FUCKING HE SAID SHE SAID

In post 958, mastin2 wrote:1. BROseidon
2. Ghostly Penguin (Ghostlin + penguin_alien)
3. Mac
6. Morph the Cat (fferyllt + Cabd)
8. Psychlone (GuyInFreezer + Nachomamma8)
9. thenewearth
10. thezmon221
11. Varsoon
13. zMuffinMan

The relevant players. (SSK we'll know the alignment of soon enough assuming the shot was legit, which it definitely looks like it is. Pie's town, and wayne also is pretty damn town. Consider them my tier-1 town.)

Varsoon looks town, zMuffin looks like town, and I *think* Mac's town as well, though I admittedly don't know him well enough to be sure. (Let's call those my tier-2 townreads.) Which leaves...

1. BROseidon
2. Ghostly Penguin (Ghostlin + penguin_alien)
6. Morph the Cat (fferyllt + Cabd)
8. Psychlone (GuyInFreezer + Nachomamma8)
9. thenewearth
10. thezmon221

...Six names, for 2-3 (depending on SSK) scum slots. Now, that's not to say I don't have reads on these players. I just feel like I need to explore each of them a bit. Be back in a while, to see if I can elaborate on my feelings about each. Because, bluntly, aside from BRO, I can see any of them being town (though Psychlone is probably the most concerning to me, with the other two hydras not far behind) or any of them as scum (though I'm admittedly on a purely-HOPING basis looking mainly at TNE and thez).

After morph crumbed.

Nice consistency there. Wait...

In post 2043, Mac wrote:p-edit - i think im the only person in this game unaware of morph's crumb.

...

Don't make me doubt my townread on you. You're one of the few people I'd expect to get it.

???

im not going to actively look for it. tough shit.

In post 2043, Mac wrote:what the fuck does me being a neighbourizer last game have ANYTHING to do with this game, mastin? seriously, you're actively looking for reasons to find me scum and manipulating evidence in your favour.

if role x was town last game, is it autotown this time?

im not ignoring arc for what it's worth, im just bored of her attitude towards me. i said that out of frustration.. also it looks to me like she doesn't have her head in the game, since, you know, she hasn't read day one.

ffery - i agree it seems similar from memory. i have no problems reading that game again buuuut im tired atm. also, fyi, you are the townread i've kinda 180'd on.

p-edit - i think im the only person in this game unaware of morph's crumb.

Are you brain damaged?
How many times i have to repeat myself..

Your case to call TNE is scum is that "TNE neighbourized you but didn't have any conversation with you". THIS STATEMENT IS NOT ENOUGH TO CALL SOMEONE SCUM. PERIOD. IF YOU HAVE OTHER REASONS. YOU HAVE THE RESPONSIBILITY TO PRESENT YOUR CASE TO TOWN AND HAVE THIS TOWN SEE THE TRUTH

Now stop blamming for something you obviously failed to do so. And talking about attitudes.. you're the one first started being mean to me.. Not me. My attitude is like a mirror. I only reflect things.. I dont intitate.. I am not going to sit and entertain your lousy ass just becuz i dont play in your terms.

Now, Try again..and Be nice!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!