A Musical Mafia! (Game over)

[pistachi0n]

We have less than 24 hours though, so VOTE: friendless seniors

[Skybird]

Now that I see who True Ogre is an alt of, I'm more convinced he is town. And before anyone asks, that is more a meta read but one I do feel good about.

[pistachi0n]

At this point, why does it matter?

[Malakittens]

Tbh I thought TO was Thor. Anyways I'm kinda around and haven't gotten in touch with GM.

VOTE: FS.

M

[THE WRONG WAGON]

Tbh I thought TO was Thor. Anyways I'm kinda around and haven't gotten in touch with GM.

VOTE: FS.

M

That's what I get for switching accs during class

[podoboq]

Unless I'm missing something, FS is at L-2.

Ogre, can we get you back over here so that we can get a claim?

[podoboq]

Only seven hours left. Sorry if I'm being a bit pushy, but we're on a deadline.

[The Pied Piper]

Yeah it's like 11am tomorrow my time and it's currently 9pm.

True Ogre probably isn't awake yet; it's about 4am there now.

[podoboq]

Yeah it's like 11am tomorrow my time and it's currently 9pm.

True Ogre probably isn't awake yet; it's about 4am there now.

damn it

OK, so I could be missing something but it appears that Tammy, dramonic, Cerberus, and Cakez are also on useless wagons right now. Can somebody please jump on so that we can put the pressure on for a claim? Or somebody from the Rangers wagon. Beeboy, I know you've been back and forth.

[Cerberus v666]

Or people could just unvote the Rangers wagon, and that would represent the same pressure as actually voting for FS, without the risk of a hammer before we get a claim. ^^

[Cerberus v666]

Also, again, TPP, could you point me to where/why you decided FS was scum? Your posts are quite lengthy and cover a lot of topics, I'm having trouble finding the points you made which related to FS.

[Axelrod]

This is exactly what I was afraid was going to happen.

[Cerberus v666]

Which part of the situation is what you were afraid was going to happen?

[Axelrod]

I want to be mad at FS, but I know one of the heads is having personal issues. I don't know what the other one is doing though.

[Axelrod]

Which part of the situation is what you were afraid was going to happen?

That we were going to go right down to the last second without any kind of claim, leaving essentially zero time to change direction if the claim (if it comes at all) turns out to be something we don't want to lynch.

[Cerberus v666]

Ah. Well, if the other option was still Mirhawk, rather than Ranger, I would be quite willing to hop over to it after putting him at L-1, but...that doesn't seem to be the case.

[podoboq]

Which part of the situation is what you were afraid was going to happen?

That we were going to go right down to the last second without any kind of claim, leaving essentially zero time to change direction if the claim (if it comes at all) turns out to be something we don't want to lynch.

Yeah, that's why these vanity wagons are anti-town.

[Cerberus v666]

Which part of the situation is what you were afraid was going to happen?

That we were going to go right down to the last second without any kind of claim, leaving essentially zero time to change direction if the claim (if it comes at all) turns out to be something we don't want to lynch.

Just a point. In this situation, what does scum do? They fake claim something town is not going to want to lynch/something which might draw out a counterclaim. Once the timer got below 2 days, based on the activity of this game, there was no claim FS could give that would stop the wagon, because any claim that's good enough to stop the wagon is a great claim for scum to make to buy a day.

[podoboq]

Or people could just unvote the Rangers wagon, and that would represent the same pressure as actually voting for FS, without the risk of a hammer before we get a claim. ^^

Intent to L-1 sounds odd. Is that something people normally do? I thought anyone who hammers without giving intent is understood to be claiming scum, so anyone who hammers gets auto-lynched by town the next day.

This is my first large game, so I don't know the etiquette here. As long as we put the correct pressure on FS to denote that we intend to lynch, I don't care how we do that.

[podoboq]

Which part of the situation is what you were afraid was going to happen?

That we were going to go right down to the last second without any kind of claim, leaving essentially zero time to change direction if the claim (if it comes at all) turns out to be something we don't want to lynch.

Just a point. In this situation, what does scum do? They fake claim something town is not going to want to lynch/something which might draw out a counterclaim. Once the timer got below 2 days, based on the activity of this game, there was no claim FS could give that would stop the wagon, because any claim that's good enough to stop the wagon is a great claim for scum to make to buy a day.

Exactly. FS can't really save themselves, but in the case that they are actually town, they can provide some last words before the hammer.

I would highly suggest nobody counterclaim whatever FS claims.

[Cerberus v666]

Or people could just unvote the Rangers wagon, and that would represent the same pressure as actually voting for FS, without the risk of a hammer before we get a claim. ^^

Intent to L-1 sounds odd. Is that something people normally do? I thought anyone who hammers without giving intent is understood to be claiming scum, so anyone who hammers gets auto-lynched by town the next day.

This is my first large game, so I don't know the etiquette here. As long as we put the correct pressure on FS to denote that we intend to lynch, I don't care how we do that.

Oh, I wasn't saying the intent to L-1 thing(though that may be a thing in certain mechanical situations, such as where double votes may be expected). I was saying if there is no pressure on Ranger, so it's clear that the lynch will be defaulting on FS, that has the same "pressure" effect as putting them at L-1, because either way, if they show up and see the situation, they will realize that nobody else will be getting lynched today.

Which part of the situation is what you were afraid was going to happen?

That we were going to go right down to the last second without any kind of claim, leaving essentially zero time to change direction if the claim (if it comes at all) turns out to be something we don't want to lynch.

Just a point. In this situation, what does scum do? They fake claim something town is not going to want to lynch/something which might draw out a counterclaim. Once the timer got below 2 days, based on the activity of this game, there was no claim FS could give that would stop the wagon, because any claim that's good enough to stop the wagon is a great claim for scum to make to buy a day.

Exactly. FS can't really save themselves, but in the case that they are actually town, they can provide some last words before the hammer.

I would highly suggest nobody counterclaim whatever FS claims.

Oh, I should probably say something: I have knowledge of the existence of flavor which is tied to my own, which, mechanically, gives me cause to believe that that slot would be town.

If he happens to claim that particular flavor, I won't be hammering. Regardless of all other factors.

Just thought I should probably mention, since I know I claimed that it was guaranteed that I would be here(and I will be) but in that circumstance I *will* prefer a no lynch over knowingly lynching town.

[Friendless Seniors]

against all odds (seriously, and I can't believe i'm actually putting mafia even close to my priorities right now), ep is here- albeit for a short time. because i don't wanna let hiplop down.
someone point me to the case(s) and i'll talk about it.
are we at L-1?

[Spiffeh]

Claim

Also make your vote count for five so Ranger is hammered and we lynch scum

[Friendless Seniors]

fruit vendor- hedwig and the angry inch
we give people wigs.

-EP

[podoboq]

For reference, a similar series of events happened in my newbie game. We had about two hours on deadline, and scum claimed jailer. Amihan and I pushed for no counterclaim, and lynching anyway.