Mini Normal 2081 — My First Game! [Game Over]

[Dannflor]

unless exilon is a PR I suspect chenn is telling the truth about his role

[Exilon]

I'm on mobile so imagine some kind of flourish here :


I am the beloved princess.

[Dannflor]

huh

I've never seen that role before

as it seems like negative utility I'm still very much inclined to believe Chenn

A gated Doctor + beloved princess vs. even just 2 goons? No way

Chenn is truthing

[Exilon]

What a plot twist!!


no but Actually just a vanilla townie.

[Dannflor]

I'm gullible

[Exilon]

Back on track yes I'm inclined to believe chenn here.

[Dannflor]

still

a gated doctor vs. 1 informed + ? mafia seems scum sided in a 9 player game

right? am I doing setup WIFOM correctly

[Dannflor]

The ascetic modifier fits and everything about the way he's handled his claim since he entered the game just doesn't make sense from a scum perspective imo

[Dannflor]

although I kinda doubt there is actually a roleblocker like Chenn is suggesting

[Dannflor]

So this means that for now:

Exilon - VT

Chennis - Ascetic Jailkeeper

Menalque - Doctor Enabler

Dannflor - VT

skitter - VT
Cinnamon - VT
Creature - VT

we lynch Creature today, let's say he flips town

let's say chennis dies

It's then 4:1

We lynch cinnamon, let's say he flips town

let's say Exilon dies

It's then 2:1

then we can lynch skitter in lylo

so basically, if you believe in all the claims and you believe that I am town we have auto victory here.

chennis must be killed tonight or he produces more results, which makes scum even more mechanically fucked

We could even just have him target me/menalque really confirm us for auto win

what am I missing

[Dannflor]

like fmpov we only lose here if Menalque is somehow fake claiming

If we direct Chennis to target Menalque, either then if Chenn is killed we have a conf inno on Menalque. If there's a no kill, it's trickier, because scum could have tried to kill Menalque for the WIFOM. but that works out in our favor still. We just jail Menalque again and keep lynching off the POE, only we're even safer because scum lost a NK

we could do the above plan with me as well instead if the consensus is that I'm less towny than Menalque

[Dannflor]

yeah actually

You only need to trust that 1 of me or menalque is town for us to win this game

im pretty sure

[Cinnamon]

Chennis should probably be targetting me or skitter here (if we're doing a creature lynch) from general town consensus that's more likely to hit scum and if there is scum in dannflor/menalque then we would know that in lylo

[Dannflor]

yea that might be more optimal even

Regardless, I do think chennis should actually announce his target beforehand in case he dies tonight

[Dannflor]

it risks scum targeting the same slot chennis does in an attempt to create a false guilty, but that can be worked around

[Dannflor]

because we just jailkeep the same slot again and scum is forced to kill elsewhere if they did that otherwise they lose 2 NKs and we definitely have auto

I'd prefer chennis to jailkeep skitter tonight

[Dannflor]

Yeah, actually, I think it’s luv and that he’s this comfortable pushing for a lynch on pisskop bc of cover from exi and robb also arguing it’s a fakeclaim

VOTE: luv

VOTE: Menalque

doubt menalque and luv ever pick this time yesterday to start hard bussing

also the setup makes less sense without menalque's role

[Cinnamon]

A scum no kill (which is what I assume chennis means by a fake guilty) isn't even that bad here.

Say creature is the lynch and is town and I get jailed, and there's no kill

I get lynched tomorrow and it's 4:1, chennis announces a skitter jail. Mafia have to kill or we get an extra lynch so either skitter gets conf towned for lylo and you decide between dannflor and menalque or there's no kill, you lynch skitter and the game is auto assuming chennis is town since there will only be one unconfirmed in lylo (chennis would announce who they jailed)

[Dannflor]

yea that works out

basically we have enough time and scum couldn't abuse it since if they tried they'd just be giving us a free lynch, which gives us auto anyway

[Dannflor]

Fair enough.

I think town is a lot more cautious than you in that scenario anyways, though? Like your progression on that slot came out of nowhere and then you're suddenly okay with hammering a claimed doctor.

town don’t lynch lolhammers as often as you would think.

qft

I don't really see anything AI in that case. Fluff is annoying, maybe anti-town, but it isn't AI. I am not even mad at the intent post because piss was the one acting squirrely and the way he was acting doesn't make sense for a PR under pressure.

I appreciate the attempt.

also maybe im wrong on robb/luv not being S/S

I guess it doesn't really matter at this point I'd just really like to end the game immediately if possible

[Exilon]

Wow suddenly Menalque Dann and Cinn are all confirmed town

This is a great game with a great payoff, an 80-page day 1 game that got solved in a comeback twist case for the scum hit?

I'm trembling slightly here

*oof*

Creature it is.

[Dannflor]

Chenn should announce his target before we lynch

[chennisden]

yea that might be more optimal even

Regardless, I do think chennis should actually announce his target beforehand in case he dies tonight

which ive agreed on

dann literally cant be scum

suggesting the optimal strategy that literally auto wins with or without him fucks him over as scum.

[chennisden]

im targetting skitter

if we get a no kill then no lynch and jailkeep skitter pls ty

[skitter30]

I'm cool with the proscribed plan

Dont have too much to add really, i'm fine with ending the day now