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Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2021 1:16 pm
by Bingle
Sure, but this isn't talking about strength, this is talking about style. FL's game is built around a core of never arguing from a position where he thinks he's wrong, which is relatively easy to pull off if you're an ego player. His strength is in knowing when to back down, wanting to win really badly, and how to manipulate people into doing his dirty work.

I could be wrong and paranoid, but I don't think anything Guillotina has done is clearing, because I think regardless of alignment Guillotina has been arguing things he believes to be true. I don't think Guillotina stepping to the bat against me is clearing because I think scum Guillotina absolutely believes he wins that fight. I don't think any of the plays he's made aren't adequately explained by "Guillotina genuinely believes himself to be right here".

Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2021 1:17 pm
by Chara
In post 2022, White Fire wrote:
In post 2018, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
In post 2016, Something_Smart wrote:Is a full claim from morph going to shed any more light on this?
Yeah it's gonna illuminate whether I need to fucking full claim or not.
lol day1 massclaim. It isn't a large theme without this kind of stuff.

@pedit i never forgot u notsci u doing better today?
i'm not seeing why anyone needs to be claiming from this. it seems really unnecessary, even if you scumread Arte it's a good enough reason to allow them to live d1.

Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2021 1:17 pm
by Lady Lambdadelta
In post 2024, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 2018, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:Yeah it's gonna illuminate whether I need to fucking full claim or not.
...Do you have reason to believe that morph's claim can't be true? or what?
Like three of them.

And one of them is "Immune to Stat Changes, but only if scum target you?!?!"

Like that is such a bullshit claim? Like, for real.

It reads like the kind of nonsense Cabd invents

Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2021 1:18 pm
by White Fire
In post 2026, Chara wrote:i'm not seeing why anyone needs to be claiming from this. it seems really unnecessary, even if you scumread Arte it's a good enough reason to allow them to live d1.
idc about claims. I just want arte to talk about her reads

Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2021 1:20 pm
by Something_Smart
My townread on Guillotina is primarily based on . was a potential townslip, but an easy dumbtell for scum to fake. But after people called it out as being wrong, he totally missed what people were saying and doubled down on the dumbtell. I think that it's unlikely that scum-Guillotina thinks to do that, regardless of what his personality is like.

Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2021 1:20 pm
by White Fire
also LLD u did this thing before where someone claimed someone was off table then u pretended u had some big counter claim. Do u think anyone is buying this?

Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2021 1:21 pm
by Artemiana
I probably won't expand on any of my opinions for a couple of days

Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2021 1:21 pm
by Lady Lambdadelta
In post 2030, White Fire wrote:also LLD u did this thing before where someone claimed someone was off table then u pretended u had some big counter claim. Do u think anyone is buying this?
Bruh I did have a counter claim that game.

And if the person I had asked to claim had just CLAIMED IN THAT GAME

IT WOULD HAVE BEEN RESOLVED FASTER.

Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2021 1:22 pm
by Lady Lambdadelta
In post 2032, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
In post 2030, White Fire wrote:also LLD u did this thing before where someone claimed someone was off table then u pretended u had some big counter claim. Do u think anyone is buying this?
Bruh I did have a counter claim that game.

And if the person I had asked to claim had just CLAIMED IN THAT GAME

IT WOULD HAVE BEEN RESOLVED FASTER.
like this is actually giving me berserker flashbacks

cause it is LITERALLY the same circumstance

and I'm making the same play

and I'm being told the same thing

and if people would just let me ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

fuck this game man

Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2021 1:23 pm
by notscience
I feel like I think both of lld and morph are town though

Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2021 1:23 pm
by White Fire
how about u just push ur read. instead of threatening to detonate the bomb

Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2021 1:24 pm
by Chara
In post 2025, Bingle wrote:Sure, but this isn't talking about strength, this is talking about style. FL's game is built around a core of never arguing from a position where he thinks he's wrong, which is relatively easy to pull off if you're an ego player. His strength is in knowing when to back down, wanting to win really badly, and how to manipulate people into doing his dirty work.

I could be wrong and paranoid, but I don't think anything Guillotina has done is clearing, because I think regardless of alignment Guillotina has been arguing things he believes to be true. I don't think Guillotina stepping to the bat against me is clearing because I think scum Guillotina absolutely believes he wins that fight. I don't think any of the plays he's made aren't adequately explained by "Guillotina genuinely believes himself to be right here".
i'm not sure i would be comparing Guillotina's potential scumplay to a scum FL situation.

Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2021 1:24 pm
by Lady Lambdadelta
In post 2035, White Fire wrote:how about u just push ur read. instead of threatening to detonate the bomb
My read is now being called confirmed town

by the person I am trying to get to clarify

how tf am i meant to push on someone who has someone I think is town calling them confirmed town

are you fucking with me rn

Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2021 1:25 pm
by White Fire
In post 2037, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
In post 2035, White Fire wrote:how about u just push ur read. instead of threatening to detonate the bomb
My read is now being called confirmed town

by the person I am trying to get to clarify

how tf am i meant to push on someone who has someone I think is town calling them confirmed town

are you fucking with me rn
do u see where i am voting?

Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2021 1:25 pm
by Something_Smart
In post 2027, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:And one of them is "Immune to Stat Changes, but only if scum target you?!?!"

Like that is such a bullshit claim? Like, for real.

It reads like the kind of nonsense Cabd invents
It... seems like a reasonable role to me.

Besides, even if you think it's fake, what would it help if they (or you) full claim?

Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2021 1:26 pm
by White Fire
In post 2031, Artemiana wrote:I probably won't expand on any of my opinions for a couple of days
and so my watch begins

Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2021 1:30 pm
by Bell
What happened.

Also, S_S has started dipping into scum pile, but he's at the top of that pile.
Notty i'm leaning somewhat town on.

Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2021 1:31 pm
by Bell
I am concerned that Cabd made a chart with everyone's reads on it.

Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2021 1:32 pm
by morph the cat
In post 2042, Bell wrote:I am concerned that Cabd made a chart with everyone's reads on it.
I didn't do shit lol.

Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2021 1:33 pm
by White Fire
In post 2042, Bell wrote:I am concerned that Cabd made a chart with everyone's reads on it.
fferyllt doesn't get credit for anything rip

Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2021 1:33 pm
by Bell
I am concerned that FF made a chart with everyone's reads on it. *Barrels on*

Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2021 1:33 pm
by notscience
In post 2042, Bell wrote:I am concerned that Cabd made a chart with everyone's reads on it.
In concerned you’re nullreading me

Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2021 1:34 pm
by Bell
I consider FF the better scum hunter.
That counts for a lot.

Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2021 1:34 pm
by White Fire
I am concerned that this tastes just like butter but isn't butter.

Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2021 1:35 pm
by Lady Lambdadelta
In post 2043, morph the cat wrote:
In post 2042, Bell wrote:I am concerned that Cabd made a chart with everyone's reads on it.
I didn't do shit lol.
OI

YOU

C'MERE