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In post 2024, Green Cap Boys wrote:though i am kind of interested in why you plan on rereading rather than making me produce more content? i thought you townread or earlier contributions

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In post 2029, schadd_ wrote:The Limit Does Not Exist (3): Green Cap Boys, Aristeia

In post 1874, Fairy Circle wrote:More over, why are you giving up on plurality elim?

In post 1873, Fairy Circle wrote:What are you doing?

In post 1876, Fairy Circle wrote:I also feel like a strong earlt game presence and then a tapering off could be scum indicative for the green bois.

In post 1879, Fairy Circle wrote:I dont see any scum motivation is confirming that we and only we shot st bingle if they are scum with bingle.

In post 1922, NorwegianboyEE wrote:I can kinda see what Mastina is saying now. But it took some time to translate it internally within myself to really understand what they were saying.
I get thr vibe that Bingle is playing very reactively and trying to do exactly what is required to avoid the lim. Rather than solving for real and of their own voalition.

In post 1902, Bingle wrote:Limit is a pretty shit wagon, tbh. It gives no more info than Titus’ did yesterday.

In post 1947, Bingle wrote:Mind explaining why? I don’t see a particularly strong case to town or scum them.

In post 1640, mastina wrote:

In post 1600, Fairy Circle wrote:I feel like the biggest thing on lilith is lack of presence

It's more than lack of presence.

In post 1059, mastina wrote:

In post 873, The Limit Does Not Exist wrote:I haven't read most (any) of the long posts. I won't have time to catch up fully until next week probably

Oh? Then why did you put so much time/effort into reading MY long posts on Bingle all of a sudden?

Could it be because you felt the need to protect him?

It's what they've done while present. For a player who had said they hadn't read the long posts, TLDNE seemed strangely knowledgeable about my push on Bingle and had a lot to say there, showing them to be weirdly informed on the subject beyond what they said.

Beyond that,

In post 1096, mastina wrote:

In post 1075, Bingle wrote:Mastina, sell me on LimitScum.

Don't really need to. It's mostly POE. I have townreads on most players in the game. I don't have a townread on TheLimitDoesNotExist. This, in spite of both heads being heads that I would expect to be able to generate townreads on. They're too reserved, too passive, too not-making-wavesey. They're doing basically nothing, and certainly nothing which looks town.

Does that make them lockscum? Where an absence of doing much of anything makes them be definitely scum? No, not on its own. But when you combine it with a combination of expecting them to radiate town + everyone else looking town + their defense of slots I am suspicious of + their lackluster content + other players I'd expect to be able to read them not having lock-solid townreads on them (basically, I would expect other players who're town to be able to locktown them if they were town and yet as far as I can tell that hasn't happened) all adds up to a lean scum read.

I have townreads on most players to reasonable strengths--TLDNE is not among them. While POE is not damning on its own in of itself, there's also the fact that in the entirety of their content, there is nothing that I can townread. Something_Smart is a slot that I would expect to be able to get a read on one way or another but his lack of content here makes it basically impossible to get a read on him one way or another, which is a red flag.

lilith is not a slot that I know much about, lacking much history there but for some reason I seem to recall hearing that lilith is very very easily obvtown when she is town, that she has a very easy time displaying herself to be town, and that is utterly absent from this game. Both to me, and largely, to others who can read her.

While being busy with other stuff can be understandable, it's not what they're not doing which bothers me; it's what they're doing when they're around. Which is to say, a lot of this:

In post 1400, Green Cap Boys wrote:but if you wanna go that route, fine. you feel flat as fuck and for someone who's supposed to be very easy to obvtown, it's a horrible look. i don't care you had the other game where you were in f3. i don't care about who has more or fewer posts, when most of your posts were either screaming at mastina, throwing a fit at anyone looking at you for acting scummy, or s_s throwing out unmemorable comments. the way that you're latching onto things like this and spewing ate while not actually offering content to solve looks bad.

but you're free to actually offer some content and lay out how this is apparently not all that different from us last game.

The little content they HAVE shown DOES have a huge amount of focus in areas that simply put: don't look like town areas for them to have focused on. There's very little in the way of gamesolving or trying to further the gamestate. There's a decent amount of defense of Bingle, which is mutual, as Bingle has also been defending TLDNE somewhat.

It's a bunch of things adding up.
POE and them being outside of it.
A lack of them looking town at all.
The content they post being lackluster when it is posted.
The content they post focusing on areas that don't look like areas town would focus on.
Associatives with Bingle.

Nothing on its own is damning, but it adds up to a pretty damn high likelihood that they're just scum.

In post 1969, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Where is Mastina anyway.

In post 1975, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Btw i don’t know if this has been brought up earlier. But if you have healing potions it might be wise to use them on slots that are likely nightkill targets for scum.