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In post 2021, Wiki wrote:Yeah, im James. This is true

In post 1964, Datisi wrote:

In post 1784, Three wrote:

In post 1779, Datisi wrote:"i change my mind, three is scum, i will elaborate a bit later as i don't have time right now"
"wow what a wild progression"

like, you're just looking at the fact that i changed my read without even giving a shit why. so either you think i'm scum regardless of why my eead changed (which is bad) or you're jumping at the opportunity to attack me now that the dorsey wagon is dwindling down (which again, bad)

How can you actually believe I don't give a shit about why you changed your read on me? I asked how you changed your read on me so quickly with zero interaction and little content between you town reading me and then scum reading me. I asked why you think I'm scum and why you believe I spewed Dorsey as town. You're just wrong here.

What makes you think I think you're scum regardless of why your read changed? What makes you think switching votes after getting a reaction to pressure,

which I've literally been begging to happen for days now,

is scum-indicative?

i can believe it quite easily, considering your 1773 was seeing me change my read on you, immediately jumping on voting me and calling me full of shit. that doesn't sound very interested in what i have to say. though the answers to those questions should be in 1799 and 1826.

again, immediately voting me and calling me full of shit generally gives off that impression. and i'm not sure what you're referring to "switching votes when getting a reaction to pressure", but assuming you're talking about you switching from dorsey to me - that action in a vacuum is fine. the way you did it and your narrative around it is what makes it scummy. don't simplify my arguments to the point of obvious wrongness, please.

In post 1964, Datisi wrote:

In post 1784, Three wrote:

and here's the problem i have with you, like it's plainly obvious i meant "i didn't have the most recent progression on you explained yet", because that is clearly what part of my progression you're attacking in 1773

but in 1778, you're taking the literal meaning of progression as a whole (when again, not what we're talking about) and attacking *that* part of my post, despite that not being relevant and not what we're talking about

I'm not a mind reader! I am going to take things literally instead of trying to guess what somebody "really means"! I'm not going to see "I don't have a progression yet" as "I don't have an updated progression yet" because it only makes sense to me that if that's what you'd meant, you would just

say it

! I really don't think that's unreasonable that you should just say what you mean instead of leaving it up to interpretation in a game about communication! And I don't think it's fair that you're attacking me for being literal minded!

i thought i might have been confusing here, but going back to check, no, actually. you were the first one to refer to it simply as "progression". in 1773, you said "This is such a wild progression", clearly referring to me going from "leaning on town!three" to voting you. my response "i haven't had a progression on you yet" was replying to that, saying that i haven't given out my reasoning yet (so it's lowkey unfair to assume the progression is scummy etc), to which you then responded with that i have had a progression on you because i've mentioned you in my iso or whatever.

like, you were the first one to bring up a progression, and i was replying to that. it's not about you being literal minded, it's about you forgetting your own questioning

i'm feeling chiller now so it's not annoying me as much as it was earlier today, but it still doesn't take away from the fact that you kinda voted me and called my progression ~wild~ (implying it's scummy) before even hearing it

In post 1964, Datisi wrote:

In post 1784, Three wrote:

In post 1780, Datisi wrote:i'm getting heated because a good part of the game is not playing, so if they're town the game is unnecessarily harder, wiki is being denser than a neutron star and refusing to listen to *anything reasonable* someone else is saying, and i'm seeing so much pussyfooting around my slot but almost nobody is willing to actually go and talk to me or argue

like how tf am i supposed to not get pissed at this game?

???

You're literally scum reading me and saying I'm attacking you for doing exactly what you're asking people to do. Maybe people don't want to deal with you because you're throwing your weight around and lashing out at anyone who dares to try to read you or argue with you?

nope, i'm scumreading and attacking you for cherrypicking and misrepping the everloving shit out of my post when you realized the thread might want to yeet me.

In post 2025, Almost50 wrote:

In post 2021, Wiki wrote:Yeah, im James. This is true

Careful. James is indefinitely banned.

In post 1716, Salsabil Faria wrote:

Btw, I think

T3

is town for the quick wagon formation on them but I'm not confident also.

In post 2017, Salsabil Faria wrote:Deadline is getting close.

I can vote anyone from these people: Looker, Dorsey, Three, Wiki.

I won't vote these people: SF, Sely, Andres, Dwlee, Datisi

I'll vote these people if I have to: A50, T3, gera, Ico

In post 2034, Wiki wrote:by andre and salsa

In post 2036, Andresvmb wrote:I would like to see some more meaningful votes from {DW, Looker, geraintm, A50}, and to a lesser extent Salsa. Wiki and DW are definitely not getting executed today, and Looker and DW are just straight up not voting with 2 days to go.

In post 1972, T3 wrote:

In post 1894, Dorsey wrote:Wow, an explosion of posts and wagon shifts to protect Datisi. That was quick. VOTE: Datisi

I jump off A50 and now all of a sudden he's scum. Datisi is the manipulator. He's also the one calling people "fucking morons" and "purposefully ignorant".

this is going into conspiracy theory level territory

In post 1982, Datisi wrote:

In post 1953, Looker wrote:

• Are you saying that you would've drawn a different conclusion from that information? Because, when I presented it to you in conversation, all you said was "okay" and stopped talking.
  
  Spoiler: 1533

  In post 1533, Looker wrote:It's just that I'm skimming through and all of the bigger wagons (Wiki, Selynee, geraintm,

  Almost50

  , Dorsey) have had you on them. You weren't on A50's, though.

here's the bad faith tone again... i'm saying that going "wow, you were on a lot of wagons, therefore you're scum" is an extremely Bad And Simplistic take that's more likely to come from scum than someone who's actually solving the game. i'm not claiming i would've townread myself because of it.

In post 2036, Andresvmb wrote:I would like to see some more meaningful votes from {DW, Looker, geraintm, A50}, and to a lesser extent Salsa. Wiki and DW are definitely not getting executed today, and Looker and DW are just straight up not voting with 2 days to go.

In post 2038, geraintm wrote:VOTE: salsa
i feel pressured into this

In post 2007, Iconeum wrote:@looker, it's really hard for me to respond to walls

like, physically and mentally

In post 1953, Looker wrote:

In post 1719, Looker wrote:

In post 1637, Iconeum wrote:@Andres do you honestly like the sheeple you have with you?

Doesn't dorsey look like a juicy wagon to you?
I'd be down running up Looker as an alternative, what do you think about that?

Would you like to explain? Y/N?

So no?

In post 1953, Looker wrote:

In post 1719, Looker wrote:

In post 1642, Iconeum wrote:

In post 1640, Datisi wrote:it's fair, dorsey's vote feels gross enough to poison the whole well

what's your shotgun reads looking like right now? i have class in about 3 minutes, but i do wanna solve with you a bit, if only our schedules were lining up >_>

datisi/andres/wiki/dwlee town
gera/sely/three/salsa/a50 exist. Wiki's pressure on gera make me wanna defend gera, but he's null. The others i could probably make a case for either allignment if i wanted to.
T3 i really don't like how he's been poking me without really engaging me, but that's like the full extent of suspicion i have there

i really don't like lookers entry

and i didn't like GE before
Dorsey is so bleh and their T3 vote is very opportunistic i feel - now drawing the 'boohoo look at me everyone's mad at me' card is really unimpressive

i'd love a good wagon on either dorsey or looker here

Is it because I questioned your friend?

?

In post 2007, Iconeum wrote:@looker, it's really hard for me to respond to walls

like, physically and mentally

In post 2041, Looker wrote:You sent from one vanity wagon to the next - switch to a bigger wagon

In post 2003, Wiki wrote:

In post 2002, T3 wrote:i'm not really sure how to defend

Find a scum instead of you and prove it

In post 2008, Iconeum wrote:

In post 1960, T3 wrote:

In post 1896, Dwlee99 wrote:How about this....give me your most convincing scumread and like 2 or 3 sentences and I'll tell you if you're town off of it

three

he made some posts that came off as manipulative
he is approaching the game from a pov that assumes stuff

wiki's (trying) to be manipulative
i've made a few manipulative posts
hell, i've been sorting for example Datisi with assumptions - does that make me scum?

In post 2041, Looker wrote:

In post 1972, T3 wrote:

In post 1894, Dorsey wrote:Wow, an explosion of posts and wagon shifts to protect Datisi. That was quick. VOTE: Datisi

I jump off A50 and now all of a sudden he's scum. Datisi is the manipulator. He's also the one calling people "fucking morons" and "purposefully ignorant".

this is going into conspiracy theory level territory

Can you expand on this?

In post 1982, Datisi wrote:

In post 1953, Looker wrote:

• Are you saying that you would've drawn a different conclusion from that information? Because, when I presented it to you in conversation, all you said was "okay" and stopped talking.
  
  Spoiler: 1533

  In post 1533, Looker wrote:It's just that I'm skimming through and all of the bigger wagons (Wiki, Selynee, geraintm,

  Almost50

  , Dorsey) have had you on them. You weren't on A50's, though.

here's the bad faith tone again... i'm saying that going "wow, you were on a lot of wagons, therefore you're scum" is an extremely Bad And Simplistic take that's more likely to come from scum than someone who's actually solving the game. i'm not claiming i would've townread myself because of it.

? Looking at the post, it doesn't look like I was saying that at all. It looks like I was asking you why you wagoned that way and why you were so dismissive of the speculation, especially if "patterns and inconsistencies are a way of finding scum".

In post 2036, Andresvmb wrote:I would like to see some more meaningful votes from {DW, Looker, geraintm, A50}, and to a lesser extent Salsa. Wiki and DW are definitely not getting executed today, and Looker and DW are just straight up not voting with 2 days to go.

VOTE: Datisi

In post 2038, geraintm wrote:VOTE: salsa
i feel pressured into this

You sent from one vanity wagon to the next - switch to a bigger wagon.