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Post Post #2025 (ISO) » Sat Oct 29, 2022 12:41 pm

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In post 2021, professotic wrote:Read the game.


I stated why.

You push town CW, I make a wolf CW to a wolf top wagon.

Simple.
Yeah dude you need to concede that this was senseless and whatever town who voted you in response were right to do so. Yeah there are not great votes on you but they aren't all scum.

You said you weren't an ego freak. I think seeing this PoV would go a long way to proving that. It's the same thing Rat, Math, and I have all said in regards to you despite not placing votes on you. The longer you defend this the more cover you give to scum.
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Post Post #2026 (ISO) » Sat Oct 29, 2022 12:42 pm

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And yes I understand you think it makes sense. But no one else does. That's not an us problem at this point.
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Post Post #2027 (ISO) » Sat Oct 29, 2022 12:43 pm

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In post 2025, T-Bone wrote:
In post 2021, professotic wrote:Read the game.


I stated why.

You push town CW, I make a wolf CW to a wolf top wagon.

Simple.
Yeah dude you need to concede that this was senseless and whatever town who voted you in response were right to do so. Yeah there are not great votes on you but they aren't all scum.

You said you weren't an ego freak. I think seeing this PoV would go a long way to proving that. It's the same thing Rat, Math, and I have all said in regards to you despite not placing votes on you. The longer you defend this the more cover you give to scum.
That’s not Drap’s style if town.

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Post Post #2028 (ISO) » Sat Oct 29, 2022 12:45 pm

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I know it's not. I just kinda hope he looks back at moments like these one day tbh. Because this why we collectively roll our eyes when he talks about how good at the game he is.
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Post Post #2029 (ISO) » Sat Oct 29, 2022 12:48 pm

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In post 2024, MathBlade wrote:
In post 2022, MMR wrote:
In post 1980, MegAzumarill wrote:
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Post Post #2030 (ISO) » Sat Oct 29, 2022 12:50 pm

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1 Radical Rat - seems kinda town, not a huge townread as they could be scum putting some effort in. But leaning town.
2 Mastina - seems kinda obvtown to me, I'm not sure they're pushing in the right places though (Prof/FA).
3 professotic (Hydra of Professordrapion and tictac) - Obvtown, scumreads here are pretty baffling. Probably the main driver of discussion.
4 Dingle Dangle Scarecrow (Hydra with Klick and Bellaphant) - could easily be mafia. Not sure on it though. I've cooled here since earlier. Null/scum.
5 Scarfmanship - Vote on Prof looked a bit eager. I know town can also be happy to get maj off themselves but it looked bad. And like I said before that, sus entrance, too self-aware and nervous. Their posting after they got some votes gave me a bit of pause but now I think the intent was to look town. Scum.
6 Past Present Future (Hydra of Nancy Drew 39, Titus, and Auro) - strong TR. I think this slot will either become obvtown or get voted out, so I'm not too worried. As in if this slot is scum, they'll just 1) stop posting as much and 2) start treading water.
7 Yume - has become strong town in my eyes, unless they are doing a weird gambit. But yeah tonally town as well, I'm confident Yume is town.
8 Enchant - Post COUNT lines up more with scumgames I think. But when they do post it's a bit towny (for Enchant). So I'm conflicted. Null.
9 Bunnyonce (Hydra of Aisa and Greeting) - I've known Town!Aisa to be on the milder side in that Mini we played, which sort of lines up with this game. Still no clue how to read Greeting. But my thoughts on this slot is basically that it could easily be scum, but probably isn't. That doesn't make sense I know. Townlean though. Higher than null based on play so far.
10 MMR (Hydra of Ircher, RH9, and Roden) - I'd say all 3 of these players have quite a neutral tone as town. Well, never played with Town!Ircher but the other 2. I think they've done a lot of useful communication this game. I'd say a strong townread.
11 Frozen Angel - was sort of a scumlean for me early game. I didn't vote them because their tone has an edge to it, which seems sort of town (like pride, they'd be annoyed to be miscondemned kind of thing). But since things have settled a bit I think they're firmly in the scumpool. Gth I'd say town but wouldn't be surprised either way. Probably null overall.
12 Maid Cafe - Haven't played in a completed game with either of these players. I actually forgot who one of them was, one is MariaR. I feel like they're treading water, as scum. Just happy with the gamestate and not really doing much to push their claimed scumreads. I think if I was town with a scumread on a slot like MMR, I'd be a lot louder about it seeing as they're a common townread (not a UTR but close to). So yeah, I scumread Maid Cafe. Happy to vote here.
13 Mathblade - seemed obvtown pre-claim, and I don't scumread them after the claim either. A lot of their posting is laden with 'I'm-going-to-die' type stuff, which I've found to be a reasonably reliable sign of egocentric town.
14 Furtiveglance - I didn't want to delete my name from this list because I'd either change the numbers or leave them in a confusing way. And changing them is too much effort when I can type this out instead. I'm not sure on furtive so far. Seems a bit less active than I've seen them before. But maybe that's due to IRL stuff. This site hasn't gripped me as much recently, maybe my interest is slightly cooling. But still good fun. Just don't expect too much.
15 Ydrasse - before the replace in I was sort of treating STD as scum placeholder because I didn't have too many scumreads. I don't really know how to read Ydrasse. They haven't memed particularly hard yet. Idk if that's a scumtell necessarily. Probably just null, I can't remember them posting anything towny.
16 T-Bone - bit of a tough one to read. The way they're acting is how I imagine the average scum in this game to act, kind of seeming active while not doing too much. Could just be town that I don't get along with, which happens. Scumlean is the most honest assessment, but I'm not locked into it.
17 Radja - I was kind of townleaning Radja for getting wagoned up over nothing so early, but I realise that's more NAI than usual in multiball. Based on posting, Radja could definitely be scum. Not too sure really. Probably null is the best verdict.

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Post Post #2031 (ISO) » Sat Oct 29, 2022 12:51 pm

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Arguing this long with a choice of three policy lims feels ugh. I scumread prof but less so now but all bad options. Prof is the least bad.

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Post Post #2032 (ISO) » Sat Oct 29, 2022 12:52 pm

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Furtive you said you solved the game yet only 3 hard scum? Why? Who do you think is on which team?
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Post Post #2033 (ISO) » Sat Oct 29, 2022 12:53 pm

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In post 2031, Past Present Future wrote:Arguing this long with a choice of three policy lims feels ugh. I scumread prof but less so now but all bad options. Prof is the least bad.

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Post Post #2034 (ISO) » Sat Oct 29, 2022 12:53 pm

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Mastina*
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Post Post #2035 (ISO) » Sat Oct 29, 2022 12:55 pm

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In post 2032, MathBlade wrote:Furtive you said you solved the game yet only 3 hard scum? Why? Who do you think is on which team?
I didn't really solve the game, that was a joke because others have seriously claimed they've solved the game. I don't really think/talk in those terms. I thought it was obvious since I said I wouldn't say who it was.

I haven't thought about teams, probably something for lategame.
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Post Post #2036 (ISO) » Sat Oct 29, 2022 12:57 pm

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In post 2030, furtiveglance wrote:16 T-Bone - bit of a tough one to read. The way they're acting is how I imagine the average scum in this game to act, kind of seeming active while not doing too much. Could just be town that I don't get along with, which happens. Scumlean is the most honest assessment, but I'm not locked into it.
I'd like you to give an honest elaboration on what you mean by "T-Bone is acting how I imagine the average scum to act". And then also "seeming active while not doing too much". I'll refrain for editorializing as much as I want to.
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Post Post #2037 (ISO) » Sat Oct 29, 2022 12:57 pm

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In post 2032, MathBlade wrote:Furtive you said you solved the game yet only 3 hard scum? Why? Who do you think is on which team?
This was clearly a joke.
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Post Post #2038 (ISO) » Sat Oct 29, 2022 1:01 pm

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In post 2016, professotic wrote:
In post 2008, Radical Rat wrote:
In post 1972, professotic wrote:No serious though.
Give me the pin points on why I’m a wolf.
For me, the move off of mastina was weird for how strongly you'd been pushing her until that point, and it felt like you were just moving for the optics of it, which got me to raise an eyebrow, if not outright scumread you. And then a few votes on you later, you take your ball and go home instead of putting in any effort to either defend yourself or push back against someone else. Town should be able to deal with being voted without a meltdown, especially experienced Town. Of course it's frustrating, and sometimes that frustration shows, but regardless of your alignment, scum benefits far more from you giving up and refusing to play than Town does, and you've played this game long enough to know that.

I’ve explained that I moved cause Bunny kept on trying to push or join town CW’s. “Outright scum read me” clearly for not reading my fucking posts or being a wolf and your making shit up.
One of the damn two.
Also, I’m kinda ticked off that I became top wagon and received votes trying to help the town and y’all just don’t seem to care from my POV. I don’t feel like some of you are even making proper reads, maybe I’m being bias but honestly you guys need to give reasons that are actually AI. And make sure to know the difference between the two (AI/Not AI)
My wording is perhaps not clear, but I meant that I DIDN'T outright scumread you just from moving the vote. It wasn't until you ragequit that I did. I do understand your stated reason for moving, but from where I'm sitting there wasn't any real risk of any of those counterwagons going through, and you moving is what actually caused the mastina wagon to fall apart when it was what I saw (and still see) as the best chance of hitting scum today. It looked like you were trying to appease people more than actually hit scum, so it made me suspicious, but did not make me scumread you until your reaction to that suspicion from others was so incredibly disproportionate. In particular since you seemed to think the people pushing those counterwagons were scum, why would you not expect them to jump on you making such a target of yourself? If you're Town, scum voting you should come as neither a surprise nor an outrage, right?
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Post Post #2039 (ISO) » Sat Oct 29, 2022 1:05 pm

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On a scale of 1-10
Prof and Mastina same team scum

1 = yes I agree 10000x times
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Post Post #2040 (ISO) » Sat Oct 29, 2022 1:08 pm

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In post 2036, T-Bone wrote:
In post 2030, furtiveglance wrote:16 T-Bone - bit of a tough one to read. The way they're acting is how I imagine the average scum in this game to act, kind of seeming active while not doing too much. Could just be town that I don't get along with, which happens. Scumlean is the most honest assessment, but I'm not locked into it.
I'd like you to give an honest elaboration on what you mean by "T-Bone is acting how I imagine the average scum to act". And then also "seeming active while not doing too much". I'll refrain for editorializing as much as I want to.
Position on Mastina wagon mostly - 3rd or 4th right? It's something you've been talked into rather than leading on/strongly calling for yourself. Just taking a back seat really. You've talked a lot about yourself and how other players are reading you. Less so your own scumreads and vote preferences. This is my perception anyway.
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Post Post #2041 (ISO) » Sat Oct 29, 2022 1:09 pm

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In post 2039, MathBlade wrote:On a scale of 1-10
Prof and Mastina same team scum

1 = yes I agree 10000x times
5 = maybe
10 = omg math that’s even worse than anything you’ve ever suggested
10 is NOT agreeing?

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It's a thought I myself have entertained, an elaborate gambit to get us to no lim, but realistically just doesn't make sense I think
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Post Post #2042 (ISO) » Sat Oct 29, 2022 1:09 pm

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In post 2039, MathBlade wrote:On a scale of 1-10
Prof and Mastina same team scum

1 = yes I agree 10000x times
5 = maybe
10 = omg math that’s even worse than anything you’ve ever suggested
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Post Post #2043 (ISO) » Sat Oct 29, 2022 1:10 pm

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Also when it comes to one of my wolf tells Roden nailed it in the cult game.

As a wolf I’m more passive then my town game.
And just as I use to catch other wolves there is stuff said/not said that you can find to catch me.
The proper way to find a wolf.

I am town here, so if it helps for future you can also use this game as comparison when this finishes.
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Post Post #2044 (ISO) » Sat Oct 29, 2022 1:18 pm

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Everyone stopped talking I'm gonna go to bed then
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Post Post #2045 (ISO) » Sat Oct 29, 2022 1:19 pm

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In post 2022, MMR wrote:
In post 1980, MegAzumarill wrote:
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Post Post #2046 (ISO) » Sat Oct 29, 2022 1:27 pm

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In post 2044, furtiveglance wrote:Everyone stopped talking I'm gonna go to bed then
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Post Post #2047 (ISO) » Sat Oct 29, 2022 1:29 pm

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In post 2044, furtiveglance wrote:Everyone stopped talking I'm gonna go to bed then
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Post Post #2048 (ISO) » Sat Oct 29, 2022 1:31 pm

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In post 2047, furtiveglance wrote:
In post 2046, Past Present Future wrote:
In post 2044, furtiveglance wrote:Everyone stopped talking I'm gonna go to bed then
Sweet dreams.

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Post Post #2049 (ISO) » Sat Oct 29, 2022 1:33 pm

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I’m not letting one of my strongest trs get miselimed, having doubts on Prof but only wagons that I’d consider switching to are probably Scarf and maybe Radja?

Which is ironically when Prof voted Bunny to stop it.
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