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Posted: Mon May 28, 2012 1:25 pm
by redFF
↑ MattP wrote:
Also, I'm obvtown and you thinking otherwise is insulting to your intelligence.
wat
Posted: Mon May 28, 2012 1:26 pm
by MattP
↑ redFF wrote: ↑ MattP wrote:
Also, I'm obvtown and you thinking otherwise is insulting to your intelligence.
wat
You understood exactly what I said. I am more obvtown than anyone else in this game and you thinking otherwise is incredibly insulting and degrading to your being.
Posted: Mon May 28, 2012 1:28 pm
by redFF
wat
Posted: Mon May 28, 2012 1:30 pm
by theamatuer
He's saying your an idiot redff
Posted: Mon May 28, 2012 1:31 pm
by SpyreX
Welp I like hammering and we're going the path of the dodo soooo peeace
Someone tell me when wagons are at hammertime.
Posted: Mon May 28, 2012 1:31 pm
by kondi2424
Posted: Mon May 28, 2012 1:38 pm
by SpyreX
The longer this goes on the stupider and stupider its going to get, just an fyi.
I project an apathy win all around.
Posted: Mon May 28, 2012 1:40 pm
by redFF
Posted: Mon May 28, 2012 1:40 pm
by redFF
Posted: Mon May 28, 2012 1:43 pm
by MattP
Even though redff is town I regret saving him from a lynch d1.
More people on the wagon pls.
Posted: Mon May 28, 2012 1:54 pm
by Trevor
The entire lurking=scum is dumb. Why would you lurk as scum? Posting as scum is a lot easier imo than as town. Also: people are more interested in games they are scum in. No one looks at a game and says, "Nah, I'm not interested in this game I am scum in."
Why is Robotnick at the top of the list? What happened to funkybike or milk?
Posted: Mon May 28, 2012 1:58 pm
by SpyreX
The lurkers go not because they are all scum (although I bet hard on scum being there in large amounts) - lurkers go because they become indistinguishable town or scum and they lose endgames. NORMALLY you cant purge en masse because of lynch mechanics and size, etc etc but HERE?
Yes. They should all die
(Its almost like I said this d1)
Posted: Mon May 28, 2012 2:01 pm
by redFF
A bigger game means more scum, and the same ratio of town to scum still means a loss. We can't just lynch 12 townies and still hope to win for instance.
Posted: Mon May 28, 2012 2:05 pm
by SpyreX
You can't have the same ratio here - at least of a single group. Of 50 you're looking at 12 - 17 (25% - 33%) which at MINIMUM would be enough to control lynches from start. Especially if you consider the fact the mimes were not town AND they would be an easy win at surprise lylo if the group held out for any length of time.
If there is multiple groups chances become higher that you'll see the spread of scum with the floaters and the sinkers and every lurker removal forces activity when it gets to the point of an active controlled game.
Because if that's your logic with the mimes we're at 12 deaths with no scum. Do you think its actually hopeless?
Posted: Mon May 28, 2012 2:13 pm
by redFF
No but I think lynching a bunch of likely town lurkers would make it hopeless.
Posted: Mon May 28, 2012 2:14 pm
by TeChNoWC
↑ SpyreX wrote:You can't have the same ratio here - at least of a single group. Of 50 you're looking at 12 - 17 (25% - 33%) which at MINIMUM would be enough to control lynches from start. Especially if you consider the fact the mimes were not town AND they would be an easy win at surprise lylo if the group held out for any length of time.
If there is multiple groups chances become higher that you'll see the spread of scum with the floaters and the sinkers and every lurker removal forces activity when it gets to the point of an active controlled game.
Because if that's your logic with the mimes we're at 12 deaths with no scum. Do you think its actually hopeless?
But if there is 12-17 scum, wouldn't the mimes be included in this count? And there was something like six mimes, giving us only 6-11 scum left?
Meaning there are potentially HUGE odds of hitting town right now.
Posted: Mon May 28, 2012 2:15 pm
by redFF
very huge, tech vote kondi.
Posted: Mon May 28, 2012 2:19 pm
by SpyreX
And if we don't purge them out then we lose, period.
The longer the game goes its going to get worse. And if, from the limited exposure, you can straight faced say that bottom group is town well then you need to get someone new at the brain helm.
If there's a glut of lurking scum after 2065 I would send techno to a dark fiery grave.
Posted: Mon May 28, 2012 2:23 pm
by Trevor
Anyone who tries to vote kondi at this point is obvious scum.
Posted: Mon May 28, 2012 2:29 pm
by SpyreX
Honestly it doesn't matter. Because I sure missed the point where red did anything to warrant the explosion and the /emo AND red is town so if you can't put up with that (and I've sucked up a LOT worse) then the onus isn't on the others.
More to the point: its fake. Or, its being actively doctored. Its not an accident how much his recent play mirrors Amrun (who isn't getting lynched because ???) even though she got run up with more than a touch of lowman (who is sacrosanct for emovoting and vanishing).
Posted: Mon May 28, 2012 2:40 pm
by redFF
Then vote him Spy and if he flips town I'm more than happy to lynch hoopla or the lurkers.
Posted: Mon May 28, 2012 2:40 pm
by redFF
↑ MattP wrote: ↑ redFF wrote: ↑ MattP wrote:
Also, I'm obvtown and you thinking otherwise is insulting to your intelligence.
wat
I am more obvtown than anyone else in this game and you thinking otherwise is incredibly insulting and degrading to your being.
Dear god town does not say this.
Posted: Mon May 28, 2012 2:42 pm
by MattP
↑ redFF wrote:
Dear god town does not say this.
Clearly they do dumbass.
Posted: Mon May 28, 2012 2:46 pm
by TeChNoWC
↑ SpyreX wrote:And if we don't purge them out then we lose, period.
The longer the game goes its going to get worse. And if, from the limited exposure, you can straight faced say that bottom group is town well then you need to get someone new at the brain helm.
If there's a glut of lurking scum after 2065 I would send techno to a dark fiery grave.
Not getting your reasoning there, but anyway.
I already tried a quicklynch push with killing off the T-Bone wagon to try and beat scum to the punch. But it didn't seem to be profitable (at least so far) with Luffy's mislynch. I think pushing quicklynches only helps scum get to night phase quicker and get easy mislynches, and gives us less content (even though there is already fuckloads, I'm talking about VALUABLE content) for later game.
I'm not sure your reasoning on why drawing out the game makes town's chances worse; the only reason I can see was my reasoning about mafia beating us to the lynches, but at this point I can't tell which wagons are scumdriven, which are not, and which might be scumdriven bussers. It's all a sea of dodgy logic from most players at this point; deals, accusations with little reasoning, hastiness to lynch whoever, 'this guy is town fuck you', 'he is so scum hurry up and lynch already' comments from nearly everyone; not much scumhunting going on at all. That sort of activity reads to me as scum, and if I was to go by those reads, I am getting scum reads on 95% of the players.
Basically put, I feel helpless at this stage - no one seems worth defending, and no one stands out enough to seem worth lynching. I still need to do a shitload of reading.
Posted: Mon May 28, 2012 2:48 pm
by YYR
This is funny. Prod dodge go.