How convenient that you actually start playing the game now that the pressure's on.
Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2012 8:59 pm
by Ythan
Hey guys!
Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2012 1:46 am
by JacobSavage
For Vollkan.
Town
Vollkan:
His playstyle is very transparent, that coupled with him actually wanting
Om of the Nom:
Not taking the easy route and just hopping on my wagon, actually attempting to scum hunt and understand the reasons behind wagons.
Pretentiousdra:
Actually bothered to go out and look at a meta case, and came to a different conclusion that the one he started with. Scum wouldn't do this sudden turn around unless they sensed that they were fighting a losing battle, which given that I was pretty universily suspected at the time makes this a very town move.
DrippingGolfball
Leaning Town
Dramonic
Wyrd
Zoraster
Ythan
Iecerint
Null
Slumberpartybois
One Direction
The Trollie
Mini-Liberian
TheButtonman
Leaning Scum
3. Qualiford
4. DeltaWave
5. Bella
Scum
1. Zoidberg:
Joining my wagon with a very weak reason
2. BT:
Possible Hard-Bus by ThunderDog
I suspect that my wagon isnt all town, and out of all them Zoidberg seams to attempting to come up with a reason, but its so weak that it's just useless. Of course if someone is pressuring me that I am not doing enough, I'll step it up. Its how I roll
Still traveling but I approve of Zor wagon and /help
VOTE: Zoraster
Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2012 5:12 am
by DeltaWave
Yeah that JS read list pretty much seals the deal for me.
(1) Look at the justifications he gives for his town reads compared to his scum reads. His reasons for townreads are much more thought-out and detailed, while his reasons for his scumreads are short and weak. This is a common problem with scum; it can sometimes be hard to invent scumtells on people you know to be town, so those scumtells are thrown out in passing and for weak reasons. I'd argue that a JS scumflip strongly suggests Zoidberg town.
(2) He spends far more time and effort on justifying his town reads than his scum reads; that looks to me like scum trying to shore up support. Townspeople actually want to lynch the people they find scummy, so they put at least some effort in pushing the wagons of those they believe to be scum. Instead he's trying to get backup here as he half-assedly pushes Zoidberg.
Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2012 5:31 am
by JacobSavage
@Mini-Librarian
The a couple of reasons for the leaning but they're minor:
For example, Dramonic. Probably town because I can't see scum being that cheeky, and a seaming lack of content.
Iecerint actually seams to be looking around for reasons and activly trying to build a case. Yes I believe its mis-directed, but it still shows a townish leaning.
Most of the other reads mainly come from gut.
@DeltaWave
I like to spend more time looking into people that I think are town. That narrows down the pool of people who I think could be scum then its just finding what i can get from their posts....
I like to spend more time looking into people that I think are town. That narrows down the pool of people who I think could be scum then its just finding what i can get from their posts....
Link me to an instance where you did a similar thing as town in a previous game.
Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2012 5:50 am
by One Direction
Vote zoraster
Don't find JS scummy and having some doubts about DGB.
Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2012 6:02 am
by dramonic
Why are we voting someone who hasn;t posted yet?
Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2012 9:00 am
by Zoidberg
↑JacobSavage wrote:Of course if someone is pressuring me that I am not doing enough, I'll step it up. Its how I roll
Your D1 play was basically nonexistent and you contributed no analysis to the game. You're a real asset to the town bro.
Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2012 10:24 am
by DrippingGoofball
Someone needs to explain why zoraster is scummy, I don't see it.
" the same things that I already do as either side"
My mind snags at the odd self-meta.
Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2012 1:25 pm
by JacobSavage
In fairness its all a little hypothetical I've yet to draw a Scum PM in any of the 13 role PMS I've been sent
And delta I'll get to you, I don't think I've ever expressed it it fully.
Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2012 1:32 pm
by DeltaWave
"things I already do as scum"
"hey guys I've never drawn a scum PM"
I want to lynch you more and more
Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2012 1:33 pm
by Om of the Nom
VOTE: zoraster
I'm okay with this, he's the same as JS in that he's done basically nothing the entire game, but unlike JS he seems like he's trying to hide it.