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Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2014 8:15 am
by BROseidon
Also 2004 doesn't look like a scumslip.
Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2014 8:15 am
by BROseidon
mastin's assertion that pie would have reversed his read on him is strange, though. Mastin, explain.
Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2014 8:16 am
by Kagami
I don't disbelieve that, I just disbelieve that pasch wouldn't have proactively investigated these avenues himself.
Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2014 8:16 am
by BROseidon
In post 2035, Rancid Broderick Drake wrote:Why do ye believe pie was killed for his reads, over something like him being a consensus town read that was virtually impossible to lynch?
Wouldn't expect a kill to be more for maintaining mislynch options than removing pressure at this point.
Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2014 8:17 am
by Kagami
re:
In post 2049, BROseidon wrote:I asked the mod about whether role blocks consume shots, and she said that they do. Pasch's neighborize failure checks out if there's a scum RB.
Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2014 8:18 am
by Kagami
you don't think a one-shot neighborizer with one-shot commute wouldn't feel weird saying "I already used up my one-shot ability?"
Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2014 8:19 am
by BROseidon
In the context of it being in response to you asking for results, no.
Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2014 8:30 am
by Kagami
Ehhhh, that would be really odd to me. Even if he knew his neighboring was consumed, the maneuver gear would be foremost on his mind, as he would have had to make a decision about it last night. It seems strange to me to ignore its existence.
Anyway, I still don't believe it's reasonable that pasch was roleblocked N1, but you were not roleblocked N2.
In any case, I'm far more confident that mastin is scum, since the only way he could be town is if the pirate were scum, and that seems very unlikely to me.
Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2014 8:37 am
by BROseidon
In post 2057, Kagami wrote:In any case, I'm far more confident that mastin is scum,
since the only way he could be town is if the pirate were scum, and that seems very unlikely to me.
Wat.
Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2014 8:37 am
by BROseidon
Explain that.
Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2014 8:38 am
by Kagami
The scum must have a weak fake-claim. I don't think pitoli just told them what "weak" meant.
Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2014 8:41 am
by BROseidon
I still don't follow.
Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2014 8:45 am
by Kagami
Pitoli appeared day 1 during the weak discussion to point out that scum had fake-claims. This strongly suggests to me that scum were made aware of "weak"ness through such a fake-claim, and therefore at least one of the scum fake-claims is weak. The weak claimants are myself, bert, mastin, and the pirate. Bert has flipped town, and I think the pirate is town too, which has basically solidified my mastin position.
Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2014 8:47 am
by BROseidon
Scum could have not used their fakeclaims, or modified them. I've done that before as scum.
Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2014 8:48 am
by mastin2
In post 2051, BROseidon wrote:mastin's assertion that pie would have reversed his read on him is strange, though. Mastin, explain.
I'm just reasonably certain he would have. Especially if I had the opportunity to respond to his points against me. Basically, he would have realized that he was confirmation biasing me. And that I was town and that Kaze wasn't.
In post 2060, Kagami wrote:The scum must have a weak fake-claim. I don't think pitoli just told them what "weak" meant.
Or the mod gave it to them and they didn't use it, or the mod didn't think it was necessary, or they do and it's someone else. Like, say, you.
Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2014 8:50 am
by Kagami
ok, that's possible; didn't really consider that.
p-edit: Yes, from others' perspective it's not the most compelling thing in the world, which is why I wouldn't have brought it up had bro not specifically asked.
Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2014 9:04 am
by Tammy
just read back over the beginning of the game, falcon just ignored the whole weak thing. Didn't question bert on what it meant or chime in at all. Not sure what that means.
Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2014 9:05 am
by Kazekirimaru
In post 2064, mastin2 wrote: In post 2051, BROseidon wrote:mastin's assertion that pie would have reversed his read on him is strange, though. Mastin, explain.
I'm just reasonably certain he would have. Especially if I had the opportunity to respond to his points against me. Basically, he would have realized that he was confirmation biasing me. And that I was town and that Kaze wasn't.
"If he were here he'd change his mind because I'd make him."
Cool.
Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2014 9:28 am
by Tammy
why didn't the pirate respond to whatever kthnx asked last night?
Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2014 9:43 am
by Kagami
^I don't understand
Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2014 9:47 am
by Tammy
In post 2033, Kthxbye wrote:RBD: What's the word man...err...Capt man? You not wanting to say anything? My vote's a-waitin on ye Sir...Captain...Sir....
Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2014 2:29 pm
by Paschendale
All of this "feel like" garbage from Kagami and Kaze doesn't make the rest of you want to lynch them? Really? All of this "feeling" and "gut reads" is just a way to push your agenda without ever being called upon to defend it. Town have reasons for their ideas. Town are actually trying to find the right targets. Scum go out of their way to avoid being called to task for their pushes.
I bet that Pie is dead because she was the most vocal person person who was serious about lynching Kaze. That was where we should have lynched from the start. That's the scum in the neighborhood. And then Kagami goes for constantly protecting him.
Oh, and "slips". Slips are almost always bullshit.
Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2014 2:31 pm
by Kthxbye
Hmm....I may have been wrong about my town read of RBD....
He posted after my post and mentioned nothing about it. If he is unaware of something, then either I was RB'ed or scum can't be targeted at night by me....hmmmm....
Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2014 4:34 pm
by Rancid Broderick Drake
Neither me skipper or I have a clue what 2033 meant, so we be ignoring it.
Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2014 5:13 pm
by Kthxbye
you should have more than just a clue...assuming I understand what I did last night