Inorganic Chemistry [GAME OVER, SCUM WIN]

[Lying Cat]

You say that "scum are incentivized into suboptimal night kills", but that's where I disagree. I think scum would search for the inventor that gives the weak cop role rather than try to knock off the recipient - the best way to prevent future investigations is to kill the provider (and there is evidence as to their identity, it wouldn't be a crapshoot).

You know what would be really cool? If scum did this. It's no different from normal kill procedure, and if they're wrong we CONFIRM A BUNCH OF PLAYERS.

[Lying Cat]

Stop being mean to me. I'm telling mom on you.

you're adopted

[hiplop]

I like lying cats plan but cant post much else atm

[hiplop]

pdodge mostly

[Sonic Boom]

You say that "scum are incentivized into suboptimal night kills", but that's where I disagree. I think scum would search for the inventor that gives the weak cop role rather than try to knock off the recipient - the best way to prevent future investigations is to kill the provider (and there is evidence as to their identity, it wouldn't be a crapshoot).

You know what would be really cool? If scum did this. It's no different from normal kill procedure, and if they're wrong we CONFIRM A BUNCH OF PLAYERS.

Right. This is why we should be copped tonight.

Jingle Mastina's plan does out the inventor if the recipient lands on scum. It also prevents conftown chaining. We get a fifty fifty shot to find scum, scum knows the inventor town read the person who copped them.

Jingle's plan forces scum to kill their mislynch candidate, us.

As for the hood paraphrase I will get to that asap. I just am tired cranky and frustrated at the moment. I am in the mood to just throttle anyone who disagrees with me and that is not the best state.

~Titus

[Jaqen Hghar]

Spoiler: Mastin Plan

We each claim a target each day and a result the day after.

Hides the inventor pretty well, which is not a pproblem due to the whole, we have a cop thing. Doesn't give very good innos or guilties.

Spoiler: My Plan

Tonight, the cop-inventor targets whoever the fuck he wants, preferably scummy bastards. That person cops SB. That person gets copped tomorrow if they survive, ad infinitum. If we have a flip, everyone before then in the chain is hardconfirmed, meaning we can force scum into killing along that group of targets to prevent a critical mass of innocent results.

The commute inventor is literally a doctor, and targets accordingly. If a player recieves both the cop and the commute, they cop. If the cop inventor outs, the doctor targets them exclusively. Cop inventor should probably out tomorrow or the next day at the latest.

If at any point, there are two kills, we lynch the last person to have been cop. If at any point we have no cop claim, the inventor outs and we lynch their target. After having lynched the last person to be the cop, we have the next cop target the same person the lynched scum *should* have targeted, according to the plan, in order to actually confirm them.

The pros: Well defined guilties. Well defined innocents.

The cons: Can be interrupted by a scum JK. Can be manipulated to give false results by a scum busdriver. Presents a clear and present danger to the commute inventor if they receive a weak cop AND their target is scum.

Spoiler: Generic Plan

Cop inventor targets as he pleases. Cop targets as he pleases. At the beginning of each day, the cop claims his target.

Cons: There are no guilties. Period. And there's nothing to prevent scum from doing fuckall if they get the cop, so the innocents aren't very trustworthy.

I obviously prefer my own plan. If anyone has a different plan, say something now, but we most definitely need to come to a consensus, before the night phase. And there is none of this follow both plans shite, because that will help narrow down the cop inventor more than anything else.

And this is where a man began scum reading this slot. Will explain if anyone is needing an explanation.

[Shakira Confirmed]

Honestly, game planning with power roles isn't my thing, I don't have enough game experience to comment on it. Someone just summarize what the town plan is when it's formed. I do feel like you guys are focusing too much on it though.

@Jaqen, first scum read of yours that I agree with I think. I would like an explanation to see if it's similar to mine.

-Flum

[Shakira Confirmed]

Yeah duh you're a scummy fuck

Titus was mistaken w.r.t. my read on SC

Really?

Now that it's finally over, I can safely say that my scumread on Titus is in part due to my experiences as scumpartners with her in the Team Mafia Large Theme.

She's too nice.

as i said, i just got a recent scumread on you after you flipped scum in Team Mafia Large Theme. I thought your punctuation was peculiar and you're coming across as manipulative but maybe its just cause i was uneasy with your posting, then i saw you flip scum
in the large theme "yep ok marquis is scum", then i asked titus cause she was your team partner and she agreed so yeah

Is it normal for hydras to forget their partner's reads? I know I'm quite aware of Marq's reads.

[Shakira Confirmed]

ok I just double checked the hood pt.

Bins was townreading you, yes. but we pushed to cop you


PLUS, she wanted you to be "conftown" so that we could have a "party" in the hood

Curse you mafia for killing her.

[Flubbernugget]

@jaquen

Weak cop investigates the previous weak cop

If nobody dies, that weak cop claims

This continues every night

Now we have a trail of conftown

You're willing to call me dumb for sheeping lc's plan without challenging it I think

Honestly the paragraph I'm responding to makes no fucking sense but that's what I got out of it

Yeah. That's dumb.

1. Scum would know the target so they can kill it

2. Scum would know the target so they can redirect it

3. Scum would know the target so they can kill it

4. Scum would know the weak cop so they can kill it

A man can go on if you are liking

Town. Controls. The. Nightkill.

Stop. Being. Fucking. Dumb.

Actually keep being dumb it sucks having to read your posts anyway

[Shakira Confirmed]

Town. Controls. The. Nightkill.

Stop. Being. Fucking. Dumb.

wat

[Flubbernugget]

Why would scum not kill conftown

Why oh why

[Wickedestjr]

so i just got home form work and i quickly skimped up so i could make a breif post real quick and then maybe make something more substancal:

but to give a full diclsoure,

i was not aware of the l-1 and i was at work during that time. When i am at work i have 0 acces to the game

.

Day 1 ended on June 17th, 11:21 pm. Cerberus cast the L-1 vote at 7:54 pm and even mentioned that it was the L-1 vote. You made eight posts outside of the game thread between the time of the L-1 vote and the time that day 1 ended.

You are scum with hiplop.

VOTE: wickedestjr

Why am I not scumreading you?

Because I’m town!

i havent done shit because my mom was in the hospital.

No worries, that is much more important than the game. Best of luck to your mother!

Jaqen

, please respond to my post 1951. Those questions weren’t rhetorical.

Starting on page 80 tomorrow and should be able to finish. Still feeling comfortable with Flubbernugget/hiplop/ika for scum. Less confident in LC right now...

[mastin2]

So the Bins counter wagon to Sonic Boom means Sonic is more likely scum?

No.

Bins being town, and hiplop almost certainly being town, means that with both the replacement wagons to Sonic Boom being on town, that Sonic Boom is scum.

Speaking of which, another thing which made me think they're scum. If they were town, I would expect Sonic active in the earlygame and Titus active in the lategame, because that's their specialties: Metal Sonic is a better early town player, Titus a better late town player.

But as scum, that's reversed. Titus's charade falls apart as scum the later you go into the game and the more cracks you begin to see, whereas Metal Sonic is able to spread more and more mist as the game continues rather than less and less. Guess which activity pattern they're closer to this game? I'll give you a hint:

titus is handling everything well

(This is not the first time Sonic has said this. It's at least the second, if not third, fourth, fifth, or more. At least once on D1 too.)

[mastin2]

There won't be any sonic boom wagons while I'm alive.
Anyone who wants to vote sonic boom instead of hiplop is downright mental.

Sonic Boom - 4 (hiplop, mastin2, Jaqen Hghar, Shakira Confirmed)
WTF is this wagon?

(It's proof that

you

are the one mental, not me.)

@Mastin if there was something I can cooperate with I would have but I dont see anything. Hm?

My point exactly.

Mastina, you use a lot of words to try and justify your vote park but the "wagon" on us has been fueled by voteparking.

No, it's been fueled by people actively pushing you as scum, and continuing to push you as scum in the majority of their posts.

You're pretending or deluding yourself that a vote in RVS somehow makes us a wagon that is viable.

But I demonstrated that the wagon on you

wasn't

RVS. It was anything but. The wagon on you, the six votes, were all serious.

You have completely managed to dodge my question about what you would think if we were town.

Nope! Answered already.

Well if you flip town, I go mope in a corner, go home, rethink my life, try to reconcile it, drown my sorrows, throw out all my reads, start from scratch, and figure out where I went horribly, horribly wrong. (Probably not in that order.)
Fortunately, that won't be a problem since you'll be flipping scum.

You asked, you got your answer. I can't give you a better answer than that because it doesn't exist because I'm not going to go deal with a situation I frankly think is never going to happen.

You are trying to chainsaw the Hiplop wagon.

Yep! Blatantly!

Find his posts, why is Hiplop town?

Don't need to, he's just...really not scum. Like, his posting lacks scum motivation, entirely. It's devoid of scum drive. Scummy, sure, yes, I know his posting

looks

bad. But scum, no, everything (especially wagon speed and composition and general circumstances surrounding him) says that he's town.

[mastin2]

Hiplop should be today's lynch. Not checking them.

And yet if you checked hiplop,
-If he was scum by your "Bins if alive outs" plan he'd get lynched,
-If he was town then you shut down the mislynch on him,
-Plus you're objecting to the logic of people pushing YOU as a lynch when you're lined up as the investigation meaning you're invoking a double-standard.

This is why I really don't want to have Sonic Boom be checked. They're scum, so having them be checked will just waste a night, lose us a town player, and give us nothing we don't already know. (Because regardless of Sonic Boom's alignment, Shakira Confirmed is pretty much town anyway.)

[mastin2]

ok I just double checked the hood pt.
Bins was townreading you, yes. but we pushed to cop you
PLUS, she wanted you to be "conftown" so that we could have a "party" in the hood

Like.

This is classic revisionistic history. They're molding the neighborhood PT talk to be whatever's the most convenient for their stances at the moment, blatantly flaunting their flagrant contradictions all over.

[mastin2]

I obviously prefer my own plan. If anyone has a different plan, say something now, but we most definitely need to come to a consensus, before the night phase. And there is none of this follow both plans shite, because that will help narrow down the cop inventor more than anything else.

If it were anyone other than

Sonic Boom

to be targeted, then I would, absolutely, without a moment's hesitation, follow your plan. It

is

a good plan.

It's just that I really don't like the idea of wasting a night by targeting them, which'll break the chain, prevent us from lynching one scum today just to delay it for tomorrow, basically making us start from scratch and delay having anything useful. With the idea of targeting Sonic Boom and following the plan, I'm not exactly thrilled about the concept, but I will agree to it if the majority of the town comes to a consensus to follow it. (At which point, I'll switch my vote.)

[ZZZX]

so tl;dr for the last 2 pages:

Follow my plan
No follow MY plan
Omg your plan is scum
no oMG YOUR plan is scum

and I am standing here confused as fuck.

[vezokpiraka]

so tl;dr for the last 2 pages:

Follow my plan
No follow MY plan
Omg your plan is scum
no oMG YOUR plan is scum

and I am standing here confused as fuck.

Why are you confused? Do you think the cop inventor would gift you and you'd have to think who to target?

[Sonic Boom]

hiplop almost certainly being town,

Hey! Mastin!

SMITE Mafia. Shut the

FUCK

up.


~Sonic

[ZZZX]

so tl;dr for the last 2 pages:

Follow my plan
No follow MY plan
Omg your plan is scum
no oMG YOUR plan is scum

and I am standing here confused as fuck.

Why are you confused? Do you think the cop inventor would gift you and you'd have to think who to target?

Well I doubt I will. But eitherway I need to know what is going on eitherway. If we dont know what the hell our cop is doing then certainly if he dies 0 info can be used.

[Antihero]

Stop being mean to me. I'm telling mom on you.

if you two don't start being nicer to each other I'M going to tell your mom

...after she gets up off her knees

[Sonic Boom]

fucking anti!



...literally

[ZZZX]

Anti goddamnit

Mastin I reread last page and.. frankly ur reply to me makrs no sense.

Let em try again

Can you rephrase that?