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Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2017 6:26 pm
by Firebringer
In post 2047, Cabd wrote:Nobody fucking walk out jeeZ. It's such a trap in this setup.
Lynching grants data.
I disagree fundamentally with this statement.
Leaving before people had a chance to talk is when we lose data, not just leaving.
Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2017 6:28 pm
by Firebringer
I think scum are probably in:
Shiro/A2/ActionDan/MariaR
Everyone else I think is very likely Town.
If I had to take one of these out of scum pile it would be Maria but I still only feel she had one good post and rest has been ew
Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2017 6:31 pm
by Firebringer
Town pairs:
Priscilla/assemble
Possible town:
Dunnstral/Maria
Likely scum:
Action/hebi
Cabd/A2
Shiro/me
Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2017 6:32 pm
by ActionDan
I expected us to die. Maxous/P_A dying instead suggests either scum think I'm solely more lynchable than Maxous/P_A pair together, or that that pair had better, stronger, more correct reads and ability to lynch them than me or hebichan. There's the injection of wifom, but I generally reject that value of that alone. I lean towards the former considering the later stages of Pre-dance where I remember my blood being called for.
Please think on my request
Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2017 6:37 pm
by Firebringer
I get opposite feels are you thinking that assemble is scum because scum tend to kill replacements to avoid new perspectives?
Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2017 6:39 pm
by Firebringer
In post 2053, ActionDan wrote:I expected us to die. Maxous/P_A dying instead suggests either scum think I'm solely more lynchable than Maxous/P_A pair together, or that that pair had better, stronger, more correct reads and ability to lynch them than me or hebichan. There's the injection of wifom, but I generally reject that value of that alone. I lean towards the former considering the later stages of Pre-dance where I remember my blood being called for.
Please think on my request
It was probably former but I don't think anyone wanted to lynch you?
Can you point to where this was?
Also I'll answer ur question in a minute.
Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2017 6:45 pm
by Firebringer
In post 2048, ActionDan wrote:I want know what you were thinking about the other unpaired gentleman (Me, Vecna, Priscila, Maxous) in between these two posts – general reads, and other thoughts you can remember
I townread Priscilla then. Didn't have a read on vecna but thought i would eventually. Maxous I townread but I can't remember what for. And you I thought were Town but I think it was just consensus everyone was saying you were Town, I disliked quite a few of your posts but I wrote it off as style differences.
I was more concerned with Giga dancing with someone at that point than the gentlemen, Giga was being extremely scummy imo and trying to hard too do Town things.
I also thought key would be useless Town like in last game with him where I think he protected scum all game.
Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2017 3:10 am
by Priscila
In post 2052, Firebringer wrote:Town pairs:
Priscilla/assemble
Possible town:
Dunnstral/Maria
Likely scum:
Action/hebi
Cabd/A2
Shiro/me
I think it could be Cabd/Shiro? I think Dunnstral/Mariar is town. I don't townread my partner, but his replace out was weird. He said he was offended by something I said but I don't know what. He replaced out because he said the game went to shit, though, not because of what I said. The Maxous/Penguin kill is very strange and I think that it probably points to Cabd at a glance? I don't think you are scum.
Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2017 3:14 am
by Priscila
In post 2054, Firebringer wrote:I get opposite feels are you thinking that assemble is scum because scum tend to kill replacements to avoid new perspectives?
That is a very weak reason to town read him if that is why. I do not think he is a very strong player, scum would not kill my pair for that.
Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2017 4:15 am
by Cabd
I was snowing my wife and then chose to kill her instead of having her defend me because....?
Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2017 5:51 am
by ActionDan
In post 2056, Firebringer wrote:I townread Priscilla then. Didn't have a read on vecna but thought i would eventually. Maxous I townread but I can't remember what for. And you I thought were Town but I think it was just consensus everyone was saying you were Town, I disliked quite a few of your posts but I wrote it off as style differences.
I was more concerned with Giga dancing with someone at that point than the gentlemen, Giga was being extremely scummy imo and trying to hard too do Town things.
I also thought key would be useless Town like in last game with him where I think he protected scum all game.
If so, why in
572 did you suggest Key to go if at the least you didn't have a read on Vecna and thought key was town (if useless)? If you town read priscila why did you question both RC and Key about it in 498 and 534? If you town read priscila and scum read giga, why did you state that Priscila/giga was a good pair in 1270?
Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2017 5:53 am
by ActionDan
In post 2059, Cabd wrote:I was snowing my wife and then chose to kill her instead of having her defend me because....?
P_A's last read on you was "mild town depending on a subsequent reads list"; I would not call that "snowing" and I am interested in you giving an updated reads list, which you had not completed before
Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2017 10:03 am
by MariaR
Shiro is my top pick for scum I think fire's town though
VOTE: Shriofire
Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2017 11:10 am
by A2
In post 2037, Firebringer wrote:I think I said key was playing exactly as how I played with him as Town sooo, he wrong?
Okay what about his play was exactly like his townplay?
Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2017 11:26 am
by Firebringer
In post 2060, ActionDan wrote: In post 2056, Firebringer wrote:I townread Priscilla then. Didn't have a read on vecna but thought i would eventually. Maxous I townread but I can't remember what for. And you I thought were Town but I think it was just consensus everyone was saying you were Town, I disliked quite a few of your posts but I wrote it off as style differences.
I was more concerned with Giga dancing with someone at that point than the gentlemen, Giga was being extremely scummy imo and trying to hard too do Town things.
I also thought key would be useless Town like in last game with him where I think he protected scum all game.
If so, why in
572 did you suggest Key to go if at the least you didn't have a read on Vecna and thought key was town (if useless)? If you town read priscila why did you question both RC and Key about it in 498 and 534? If you town read priscila and scum read giga, why did you state that Priscila/giga was a good pair in 1270?
Dan I am going to be honest here, I think ur just asking me stupid questions to look like your doing something.
Cause I swear I answered everyone of these questions.
But I'll answer anyways:
I thought key would be inactive and easily pocketed by any scum pair so leaving him seemed like best to me for pragmatic reasons which is why even though I tr him over vecna I thought vecna was more useful to keep.
I asked rc for his reasons tr Priscilla cause i was too and didn't have anything to put it to words beyond attitude.
And given my impression of priscilla I was thinking her paired with Giga would give least amount of chance of Giga pocketing her partner since i thought she was getting a partner anyways might as well be someone who blindly townread them.
Now can you answer my questions?
Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2017 11:27 am
by Firebringer
In post 2055, Firebringer wrote:It was probably former but I don't think anyone wanted to lynch you?
Can you point to where this was?
Also I'll answer ur question in a minute.
Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2017 11:29 am
by Firebringer
In post 2062, MariaR wrote:Shiro is my top pick for scum I think fire's town though
VOTE: Shriofire
I'd like to have ~reasons~ for this pls.
Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2017 11:36 am
by MariaR
I just feel confident in it
Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2017 11:38 am
by Firebringer
U smell
Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2017 11:39 am
by MariaR
good?
Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2017 11:40 am
by Firebringer
I don't know, I'll have to ask Andrius.
Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2017 1:17 pm
by Dunnstral
Actiondan is waiting for the ic to push me instead of doing the dirty work himself
Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2017 1:19 pm
by Dunnstral
I think we should examine the dead people's reads
Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2017 1:39 pm
by Assemblerotws
In post 2053, ActionDan wrote:I expected us to die. Maxous/P_A dying instead suggests either scum think I'm solely more lynchable than Maxous/P_A pair together, or that that pair had better, stronger, more correct reads and ability to lynch them than me or hebichan. There's the injection of wifom, but I generally reject that value of that alone. I lean towards the former considering the later stages of Pre-dance where I remember my blood being called for.
Please think on my request
The only people who suspected you in the last 10 pages of pre-dance were Priscilla, Giga (flipped town), RC (flipped town), and keyen (flipped scum). Absolutely nobody voiced any suspicion of you D1 that I could see.
Unlike you, I believe that if you're town the second theory is more likely to be correct. Max had a strong suspicion of Shirou, who I was starting to suspect anyway.
VOTE: Shirou
If she flips Town, I'm taking a long, hard look at some of the other people in this thread.
Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2017 1:40 pm
by A2
In post 2073, Assemblerotws wrote:If she flips Town, I'm taking a long, hard look at some of the other people in this thread.
Like whom?
Also how did your chat with Priscilla go?