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Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2018 1:06 pm
by ChibiBear
In post 2038, Princess Celestia wrote:On my rereading...
Chibibear, you say you have gone over Lady's posts and think it is me or Kokichi? What about Lady's posts says that? It seems too easy to just claim you have done something and have a reason when not saying the reason.
No offence but that's a little ironic coming from you. You say I'm soooooo scummy and then never explain why. It seems too easy to just say something and not say the reason. If you really think I'm scummy then shouldn't you make a case? Right now I have a pretty good chance of making it to endgame, are you just going to let that happen if you really think I could be scum?

Since everyone else was looking for possible scum interactions in LLD's posts I also wanted to try my hand at it. Having gone back and read it, I feel that the way she talked to/about Kokichi could possibly be s+s because of stuff like the way she advocates for him to be in the top pairings but not in a sort of passive way. I believe that I had Kokichi as lean town in the early game but my read of him has gotten less and less town over time. I figure that even based on statistics alone, I can't be wrong on
all
of my reads.

Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2018 1:07 pm
by ChibiBear
In post 2050, ChibiBear wrote: No offence but that's a little ironic coming from you. You say I'm soooooo scummy and then never explain why. It seems too easy to just say something and not say the reason. If you really think I'm scummy then shouldn't you make a case? Right now I have a pretty good chance of making it to endgame, are you just going to let that happen if you really think I could be scum?

Since everyone else was looking for possible scum interactions in LLD's posts I also wanted to try my hand at it. Having gone back and read it, I feel that the way she talked to/about Kokichi could possibly be s+s because of stuff like the way she advocates for him to be in the top pairings but in a sort of passive way. I believe that I had Kokichi as lean town in the early game but my read of him has gotten less and less town over time. I figure that even based on statistics alone, I can't be wrong on
all
of my reads.
EBWOP

Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2018 2:53 pm
by Princess Celestia
In post 2050, ChibiBear wrote:
In post 2038, Princess Celestia wrote:On my rereading...
Chibibear, you say you have gone over Lady's posts and think it is me or Kokichi? What about Lady's posts says that? It seems too easy to just claim you have done something and have a reason when not saying the reason.
No offence but that's a little ironic coming from you. You say I'm soooooo scummy and then never explain why. It seems too easy to just say something and not say the reason. If you really think I'm scummy then shouldn't you make a case? Right now I have a pretty good chance of making it to endgame, are you just going to let that happen if you really think I could be scum?

Since everyone else was looking for possible scum interactions in LLD's posts I also wanted to try my hand at it. Having gone back and read it, I feel that the way she talked to/about Kokichi could possibly be s+s because of stuff like the way she advocates for him to be in the top pairings but not in a sort of passive way. I believe that I had Kokichi as lean town in the early game but my read of him has gotten less and less town over time. I figure that even based on statistics alone, I can't be wrong on
all
of my reads.
I am apologizing, because I did say why, perhaps reading is as hard for you as being very active is difficult for a person like who I am

I will help
In post 1037, Princess Celestia wrote:Page 18
ChibiBear makes excuses for something that hasn’t happened yet! Maybe a guilty conscious.

Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2018 3:01 pm
by SirCakez
Short being House gives HUGE red flags about that slot now. DVA/short now on my lynch list.

Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2018 3:52 pm
by Gamma Emerald
In post 2053, SirCakez wrote:Short being House gives HUGE red flags about that slot now. DVA/short now on my lynch list.
Why? What behaviors make more sense as scum with that info?

Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2018 4:24 pm
by DVa
I did ignore the PT, but he did make an appeal to me. I'm not sure 100% of it was fake so I'm going to cut some personal stuff that he gets into, but he did write a message that goes something like:

"So DVa, we got off to a bad start, but can we please work as a team and win this?

If you think I'm scum, please tell me what I've done to give you that impression because I have barely even been paying attention to this game because of the way it started.

The first few pages were enough to give any new player the Debbie Downers..."

(I tried to keep relatively close to the language but I need to double check the rules on whether I can directly quote the material from the PT in thread)

Then he gets into personal stuff I won't repeat, but I figure I should mention that he made a direct personal appeal to me in the PT. I don't think that should be surprising considering I was threatening to leave the dance, but if RC is open to considering the possibility that I should leave the dance as soon as we lynch the second scum I thought he should know before this day resolves.

I did reply to him basically telling him to not lose his shit and to keep the discussion of the game in the main thread.

Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2018 4:27 pm
by DVa
@mod can I directly quote the lover's pt?

Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2018 4:27 pm
by DVa
My paraphrase might have changed the language on that third line, I'll see if I can't just copy/paste it directly

Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2018 4:28 pm
by FakeGod
In post 2056, DVa wrote:
@mod can I directly quote the lover's pt?
No.

Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2018 4:30 pm
by DVa
OK well that's pretty close to his language anyway

Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2018 4:31 pm
by Gamma Emerald
The first few pages what
He was rather active then, how was he tuning out by then

Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2018 4:37 pm
by DVa
Sorry this should be closer to his exact language on that line:
--
Think about how the first few dozen pages would feel to you if you had been here for less than a month. It's enough to give anyone the Debbie Downers.
--

So the first 'few dozen pages' made him feel bad?

Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2018 4:38 pm
by DVa
He also implied that if he thought I had a personality conflict with him that he'd avoid my games in the future so there was a level of guilt tripping as well

Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2018 4:40 pm
by DVa
like ngl I think I leave the dance as soon as we get the second red flip

Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2018 4:41 pm
by Gamma Emerald
Hooo boy yeah that’s a hot mess, not sure whether that’s House being scum or House just being House

Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2018 5:05 pm
by Kokichi Oma
In post 2049, ChibiBear wrote:Short was House
hahahahaha

Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2018 5:11 pm
by ChibiBear
In post 2052, Princess Celestia wrote: I am apologizing, because I did say why, perhaps reading is as hard for you as being very active is difficult for a person like who I am

I will help
In post 1037, Princess Celestia wrote:Page 18
ChibiBear makes excuses for something that hasn’t happened yet! Maybe a guilty conscious.
I seriously cannot be bothered to go back and find the exact post but my comment regarding my lack of experience was entirely relevant because earlier Short had been questioned regarding his similarly recently join date. (Which is now hilarious in hindsight.) I didn't bother responding to your comment when I read it the first time around because your conclusion was bad and didn't deserve a response.

Also the fact that you're seriously using that tiny comment as a reason to find me scummy in an 80+ page game and apparently nothing else isn't doing you any favours. So why don't you get off your high horse (lol) so we can actually have a productive conversation instead of being passive aggressive towards each other, 'kay?

Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2018 5:12 pm
by Firebringer
do u even know house kokichi?

Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2018 5:16 pm
by ChibiBear
I mean I never had a good feeling about Short to begin with and now it's even worse. To be fair though I have only played one game with him and it was years ago, but he was extremely different in that game as town. Idk maybe he was just behaving really different to not give away who he is? The fact that he was willing to just sit back and let other people decide stuff instead of constantly deathtunnelling someone for some dumb reason concerns me.

Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2018 5:16 pm
by ChibiBear
In post 2065, Kokichi Oma wrote:
In post 2049, ChibiBear wrote:Short was House
hahahahaha
Wait why is that funny? :nerd:

Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2018 5:20 pm
by ChibiBear
In post 2068, ChibiBear wrote:I mean I never had a good feeling about Short to begin with and now it's even worse. To be fair though I have only played one game with him and it was years ago, but he was extremely different in that game as town. Idk maybe he was just behaving really different to not give away who he is? The fact that he was willing to just sit back and let other people decide stuff instead of constantly deathtunnelling someone for some dumb reason concerns me.
Oh and there's another reason I'm concerned too but that would be considered discussing an ongoing game so I'll just keep that to myself.

Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2018 5:23 pm
by SirCakez
Playing the newbie card so hard to cover up bad play @Gamma
Now that we know he wasn't newb his play was just really scummy

Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2018 5:26 pm
by ChibiBear
Yeah, I agree with DVa about leaving. If we don't get both the remaining scum within the first few lynches/leaves, I do not feel good about having him in the endgame.

Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2018 5:48 pm
by Gamma Emerald
In post 2067, Firebringer wrote:do u even know house kokichi?
THATS MY QUESTION TOO

Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2018 6:04 pm
by Kokichi Oma
I'm laughing because he was secretly a despair user.