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Nos said he was going to pass on the hammer then he came back again later and voted someone else while I was still at e-1. Scum can 100% do that, it just seems like extra work and less necessary in that situation, especially when I was already pushing on him, hence the light town read.

In post 2050, Frogsterking wrote:Nos said he was going to pass on the hammer then he came back again later and voted someone else while I was still at e-1. Scum can 100% do that, it just seems like extra work and less necessary in that situation, especially when I was already pushing on him, hence the light town read.

This was in answer to why you didn't get the same town cred as Nos for passing the hammer, geraintm.

@, : Do you want me to hammer geraintm? Or is it better for someone who scumreads him to do that?

I fear the day is stalling because it's hard to come to much of a consensus on anything, especially because the order we eliminate people doesn't really matter.

(Additionally, should I choose a different target tonight? Just to be clear on who I'm targeting if I'm nightkilled, I will be targeting geraintm, or Frogster if geraintm is eliminated, unless I say otherwise; but if you'd prefer a different target, I'd be interested in your reasoning.)

In post 2032, Frogsterking wrote:Nosferatu skipping hammering me and voting geraintm is making me seriously rethink my Nosferatu theory.

i wasnt online when u were e-1 but ill take it

I'm starting to seriously consider Looker might be the last scum.

zap!
Yes, I agree day has stalled out.
Would you prefer frog?

I don't think it matters either.

In post 2057, WaltertheDunce10 wrote:zap!
Yes, I agree day has stalled out.
Would you prefer frog?

yes

• If I were Frogsterking, I would hammer geraintm before I was killed.
  
• I'm also surprised CFJ and Frogsterking are still refusing to vote. If you're as big-brained as you're implying, why not end the day? What am I missing?

In post 2054, Frogsterking wrote:I'm starting to seriously consider Looker might be the last scum.

Would it matter? This is a town auto-win. Why are you stalling? There's nothing you can do, Frogster - you lose. Vote already.

In post 2060, Looker wrote:If I were Frogsterking, I would hammer geraintm before I was killed.

I should have

In post 2060, Looker wrote:

• If I were Frogsterking, I would hammer geraintm before I was killed.
  
• I'm also surprised CFJ and Frogsterking are still refusing to vote. If you're as big-brained as you're implying, why not end the day? What am I missing?

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In post 2054, Frogsterking wrote:I'm starting to seriously consider Looker might be the last scum.

Would it matter? This is a town auto-win. Why are you stalling? There's nothing you can do, Frogster - you lose. Vote already.

It's not autowin lol. And you haven't very clearly explained your FoS on me.

My biggest issue in this situation is that my sense is telling me geraintm will flip town. This is leading me to suspect Looker due to PoE.

I guess I will need to reexamine the VCA evidence produced earlier. VCA is not my strong point yet.

In post 2060, Looker wrote: [*]I'm also surprised CFJ and Frogsterking are still refusing to vote. If you're as big-brained as you're implying, why not end the day? What am I missing?

Bigbrain.load(gamesolve)

I'd be happy with eliminating Looker first. He's my top scumread by PoE. I vaguely remember seeing actual scumtells, too, but it was so long ago that I've forgotten what they were at this point.

I was hoping to do a Looker reread at some point, but it became mostly pointless when we ended up in an almost-solved gamestate. I can do it anyway if people are interested (not right now; I need to go to bed).

Based on the behavior of the wagons today it also appears to me that geraintm vs frog may be T v T. It seems like the scum has simply planted themselves somewhere (Looker on my wagon for example.)

Another explanation I could see is that geraintm is scum and is unsure what to do.

I think the game is not quite solved yet right? I am interested in reading the Looker case.

In post 2068, Frogsterking wrote:I think the game is not quite solved yet right? I am interested in reading the Looker case.

Especially considering we do not know the role of the final scum.

In post 2068, Frogsterking wrote:I think the game is not quite solved yet right? I am interested in reading the Looker case.

if you are going to do it, then do it quickly as today is drawing to a close.
the inability of any wagon to get over the hump today is perplexing....

In post 2070, geraintm wrote:

In post 2068, Frogsterking wrote:I think the game is not quite solved yet right? I am interested in reading the Looker case.

if you are going to do it, then do it quickly as today is drawing to a close.
the inability of any wagon to get over the hump today is perplexing....

It's because town can't agree on an SR on you.

In post 2063, Frogsterking wrote:My biggest issue in this situation is that my sense is telling me geraintm will flip town. This is leading me to suspect Looker due to PoE.

If it's not geratim it's CFD

It seems like I'm having a hard time distinguishing between the conclusion that my intuition is telling me versus the conclusion that my senses are telling me.

Go on.