Mini 2167: Illicit Substances Mafia (Game Over!)

[Bell]

Isn’t it pretty normal for town reads to form that way initially?
Groups tend to accumulate and familiar birds usually flock together at least until something breaks that down.

[Secret Tunnel]

but when people with high levels of familiarity with each other are all townreading each other that’s where my issue is

We can’t all be right

[April Ludgate]

Isn’t it pretty normal for town reads to form that way initially?
Groups tend to accumulate and familiar birds usually flock together at least until something breaks that down.

A single scum usually gets placed into it. That’s why I did the original town block thing really early because I wanted to see what the gamestate turned into with that in mind, and it outed Morph as scum for me.

Bell, Remelia, Plus, April = town block for life

[Bell]

but when people with high levels of familiarity with each other are all townreading each other that’s where my issue is

We can’t all be right

I’m a bit in shock you think we don’t understand that.

[midwaybear]

I’ve also been pushing Prism slot for a while, so idk what your comments supposed to be talking about. I have stated The slots I thought were good fades for the day, my scum reads, my town reads, and the fact I’m ready for the day to end for a while.

Like, call me out if I’m wrong on any of this, but I do believe I have genuinely explained what’s on my mind thoroughly this game.

Oh ok, I guess I just wasn't really paying attention to those parts. I'll revisit this slot if the wagon becomes serious, but it's not really my first option.
I'm neutral on 420 and had Prism as slightly town mostly based on gut, and I'm not sure how much longer 420 will be with us. Probably still in my POE though.

[April Ludgate]

but when people with high levels of familiarity with each other are all townreading each other that’s where my issue is

We can’t all be right

This statement in general is why everyone isn’t right, and more than likely, everyone is probably more wrong than right.

High familiarity means, at least early game, people are going to know how to deal with the people they are familiar with.

If SS is scum, even though I’m super familiar with him, he will know what he has to do to hide it and naturally deal with the issue of me being familiar with him.

And people just like to ignore it Day 1 because it’s more of a popular vote kinda day.

[Secret Tunnel]

Bulge I want your thoughts on this in particular I think you’re enough on the outskirts for an interesting PoV

Pedit

I’m just trying to explain my train of thought bc you were questioning it lol

[April Ludgate]

I’ve also been pushing Prism slot for a while, so idk what your comments supposed to be talking about. I have stated The slots I thought were good fades for the day, my scum reads, my town reads, and the fact I’m ready for the day to end for a while.

Like, call me out if I’m wrong on any of this, but I do believe I have genuinely explained what’s on my mind thoroughly this game.

Oh ok, I guess I just wasn't really paying attention to those parts. I'll revisit this slot if the wagon becomes serious, but it's not really my first option.
I'm neutral on 420 and had Prism as slightly town mostly based on gut, and I'm not sure how much longer 420 will be with us. Probably still in my POE though.

Why was Prism townie to you?

[midwaybear]

I gutread their attitude as townie. Making the comment about not being apathetic and doing a "slayer" is probably town because I tend to see scum try to bank on apathetic status and then flip it later. Not much else from that though.

[Bell]

Sure, but I think morph is town and until they do something that I think they wouldn’t do as town my approach to them is to work together. You don’t have to feel excluded at least for me, you aren’t really.

[April Ludgate]

Why would scum them ever do something they wouldn’t do as town?

[April Ludgate]

Especially if you have familiarity with them

[Bell]

Because they think it would further their win condition to do it.

[Secret Tunnel]

I don’t think scum intentionally do things out of their town meta

I just think there are gAps to the accuracy of the portrayal

[April Ludgate]

I gutread their attitude as townie. Making the comment about not being apathetic and doing a "slayer" is probably town because I tend to see scum try to bank on apathetic status and then flip it later. Not much else from that though.

I’ll go back and reanalyze later, but I like this as a reason coming from you.

[April Ludgate]

I don’t think scum intentionally do things out of their town meta

I just think there are gAps to the accuracy of the portrayal

Why? Certain scum definitely do.

[April Ludgate]

And I was also talking about playing into the meta, not out of their meta, but nonetheless

[Bell]

Internally for me when I play scum I have general guidelines. Things I feel I have to do to stay out of the elimination pool
Then I do things that are more creative on top of that if I feel I have the time.
I’m talking about that stuff.

[Secret Tunnel]

Maybe I’m just thinking in my own perspective but i don’t do things with the thought of “this is against my town meta” if That makes sense

[April Ludgate]

I know.

I also feel that if Morph is scum, Bell having a blindspot for their slot also makes sense.

[April Ludgate]

Maybe I’m just thinking in my own perspective but i don’t do things with the thought of “this is against my town meta” if That makes sense

Fair enough, but I have definitely seen in a pretty common occurrence scum partners say to me “i wouldn’t ever do that as town, so i dont feel comfortable doing that”. Because I give high risk high reward style of potential plays to go forward with, so I’m very familiar with people actively trying to stay in their town meta comfort zone as scum, even high profile players. Mastina is someone who does as best as they can to not do things as scum if they wouldn’t do it as town, and it works well for them.

[Bell]

*tilts head*
I’m reading their posts and i’m not assuming they’re town.
You’re putting a wedge there that doesn't need to be there.

[April Ludgate]

Also, if Morph is town, why is there no scum taking advantage of this.

Especially if I were scum, I’d know I would have the extra advantage based on having a scum team to back up.

As town, I also half expected people to come at me, which there definitely are players who are half committing and hoping I give up, which is another sign I’m correct with Morph.

[April Ludgate]

*tilts head*
I’m reading their posts and i’m not assuming they’re town.
You’re putting a wedge there that doesn't need to be there.

I disagree that it doesn’t need to be there.

I am actively hunting scum down rather than just waiting for it to sit on my lap.

[Secret Tunnel]

Can you give me the short version of why they’re scum?