Mini Theme 2172: Great Idea Mafia - Game Over

[Primate]

User and Echo is possible but echo is still scum to be eliminated then, so it's not a misplay.

It makes usernames move towards letting me live longer weirder, as you've been pretty up for eliminating me and username+echo+you getting rid of me today seemed pretty plausible earlier.

[NoPowerOverMe]

User could be mafia by himself right?

[Primate]

Not really, he was blocked n2, there wouldn't have been a kill (unless it came from another source, which is unlikely).

[NoPowerOverMe]

Please go through this step by step.

[Primate]

Hypothetically assuming username the only mafia

n1, you blocked
Titus - Killed Night 1 - Vanilla Townie (username or herta)
Noraa - Killed Night 1 - Vanilla Townie (username or herta)

n2, username blocked
redcardinal - Killed Night 2 - Town Mason (??? or herta)
Rannygazoo - Killed Night 2 - Town Innocent Child (??? or herta)

n2, Iconeum blocked
Iconeum - Killed Night 3 - Town Retired Marine (username)

It's possible but I think circumstances lead us away from that conclusion.

[MURDERCAT]

This goes back to the same thing I said before, if there is only one scum left it has to be echo, me, or primate because I'm claiming to have roleblocker NPOM and username and we still ended up with kills. So either I'm scum desperately trying to get you to realize that you and username are clear or you are both actually just clear

[MURDERCAT]

Let me know what you are thinking NPOM now that a me/username team is cleared.

[MURDERCAT]

I'm actually not sure there are any reasonable situations where echo isn't scum here with the sole exception of primate scum, who I then RB and we lim tomorrow.

[Primate]

It could be username as mafia + an alien who used their kill n2 but I don't think that's likely, I don't get why they would use it then.

[MURDERCAT]

That's the only one I can think of that doesn't involve echo

[NoPowerOverMe]

Eliminating echo is probably the best course of action I am just weary of eliminating a doctor.

[MURDERCAT]

What other scenarios are you afraid of?

[NoPowerOverMe]

I'm weary that echo protected a kill last night andi is town

[MURDERCAT]

And who would be scum in that scenario

[MURDERCAT]

Because neither of us have hammered

[Primate]

That's the only one I can think of that doesn't involve echo

One mafia, Username the mafia strongman .

There's outs for everything, if you're doing setup analysis you play the odds. Works better ftf where you play four games a night than a forum game that lasts a month, ha.

[EchoVision]

Also, this is me not hammering echo by the way, which I think greatly limits the possibility that username and I are scum together

:thumbs_down:

[NoPowerOverMe]

Has echo claimed his visit last night

[EchoVision]

Where you at echo I see you've been online

i don't actually come online i open chrome on my phone and mafia is an open tab so it's like yeah hi you're online

[EchoVision]

I mean it makes sense now you're not hammering, ha. These are my general thoughts.

The Claim: I think it implies that echo is actually a doctor. I think the possibilty that Echo is a mafia doc is probably correct but I don't necessarily think they're mafia.
The Nightactions: v weird, scummy.
The nightkills: I don't think these go either way. Redcardinal was suspicious of herta, so that probably happened, leaving echo with Nora/titus and ranny, which isn't interesting. Iconeum was super anti-echo and the end of yesterday, so it makes sense as a kill from that perspective.
The Connections: The stuff below is the kind of thing that makes me reckon there could be something there. Lots of shelley having Echo as their second elim target and then not doing anything with it. From echo it's less cut and dry, I think the IVD push was honestly fine.

claim ye
night actions ur mom
nightkills are wifom, it's so easy for scum to be like "yo red is super sus on herta, so let's kill red so that herta get's shit for it" so no
connections i didn't read

[EchoVision]

Has echo claimed his visit last night

i did murder again i'm a math major i like patterns

[NoPowerOverMe]

Is this your first time claiming that

[MURDERCAT]

I think so

[NoPowerOverMe]

It seems suspicious that you didn't say that when you were complaining about us not considering all the scenarios earlier.

[MURDERCAT]

? Is this to me?
I'm not sure what you are getting at