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Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2021 9:36 am
by Not_Mafia
A50 is scum

Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2021 9:36 am
by Not_Mafia
Don't say angleshoot

Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2021 9:39 am
by MathBlade
That’s what I am curious about too.
Except I don’t see where VFP is scum except where Pizza was intentionally shot.

Which is why I think if Pooky is town second bus driver happened earlier or VFP is scum who lied about targets.

Assume VFP is town
I and BBMolla busdriven
Assume BBMolla deflected onto Pizza
Then scum attempt to shoot me then they shoot Pizza. Pooky dies
Then scum attempt to shoot Mastina then Mastina and Pizza die. Pooky dies.

Like I don’t get why scum deflect BBMolla there

Could be swap me and BBMolla
Deflect me onto Pizza.

But this requires scum shoot me then knowing it would end up on Pizza.

This doesn’t make sense.

Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2021 9:41 am
by MathBlade
In post 2048, Toogeloo wrote:I'm wondering if this started with a weaker bus drive pack, it got passed to Molla, and in order to power it up, scum decided to pass it to slug/VFP knowing that a role like that is strongest in their most town read scum member.

No scum shoots me at night right now with Pooky, Math, and mastina as bigger threats, so an angle shot on mastina seems more likely.
I think either A > Scum have a strong willed shot
B> VFP is scum who shot you to hit Mastina
C> Scum shot you for being inventor which is TPR.

Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2021 9:41 am
by Toogeloo
In post 2051, Not_Mafia wrote:Don't say angleshoot
Why?

I'm fine eliminating A50 if we need to, but I really suspect that something odd is up with an unlimited bus driver making it this far. I'm fairly certain most of the town aligned players did what I did and passed vanilla and kept power every time, thus getting weaker 1-shots and passives, but scum were able to power up roles by passing within themselves a little bit.

Bus driver isn't something I'd expect to be more than 1-shot if taken early, and I don't see scum passing it to town.

Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2021 9:42 am
by Not_Mafia
It's A50

Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2021 9:42 am
by MathBlade
In post 2050, Not_Mafia wrote:A50 is scum
I believe you with how insistent you are but I am trying to figure out how because your read maybe weird.

Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2021 9:46 am
by Toogeloo
A50 does have a certain degree of respect for my night play, so I suppose it's entirely plausible he shot me last night, but I always have a good grasp of my position in a game and even I know I am a questionable night kill.

Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2021 9:51 am
by Not_Mafia
In post 2054, Toogeloo wrote:
In post 2051, Not_Mafia wrote:Don't say angleshoot
Why?

Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2021 9:52 am
by Toogeloo
I have never been on MU. My forum mafia experience is gamefaqs and mafiascum, and that's it.

Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2021 9:53 am
by Not_Mafia
Angleshoot is still a nauhgty word

Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2021 9:53 am
by MathBlade
I am thinking if it’s A50 then Willow didn’t pass a tracker and Willow passed a busdriver.

Then that would make A50 scum.

Scum used a bus driver in combinator with the deflector and VFPs.

Then Pooky and X got busdriven >> Pooky is town hiding behind X.
Scum deflect BBMolla to Pizza
Scum shoot me >> anything targeting Me targets BBMolla because bus drive from VFP which then gets deflected onto Pizza.

I think that works?

Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2021 9:54 am
by MathBlade
In post 2060, Not_Mafia wrote:Angleshoot is still a nauhgty word
It’s not in this case. Toog is using it wrong but meh.

Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2021 9:54 am
by MathBlade
In post 2061, MathBlade wrote:I am thinking if it’s A50 then Willow didn’t pass a tracker and Willow passed a busdriver.

Then that would make A50 scum.

Scum used a bus driver in combinator with the deflector and VFPs.

Then Pizza and X got busdriven >> Pooky is town hiding behind X.
Scum deflect BBMolla to Pizza
Scum shoot me >> anything targeting Me targets BBMolla because bus drive from VFP which then gets deflected onto Pizza.

I think that works?
Ebwop

Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2021 9:55 am
by Not_Mafia
In post 2059, Toogeloo wrote:gamefaqs
How do you solve the goat puzzle in Golden Sun?

Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2021 10:01 am
by Toogeloo
How about bank shot? Mastina was killed by bank shotting it off me >_>.

Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2021 10:04 am
by MathBlade
In post 2065, Toogeloo wrote:How about bank shot? Mastina was killed by bank shotting it off me >_>.
Possible but only if VFP is scum
Otherwise scum would have intended to shoot you as they wouldn’t know about the bus drive.

Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2021 10:11 am
by Toogeloo
Which is why I'm arguing in favor of possible Slug/VFP scum. From a night pass perspective with a strong version of bus driver, it make sense.

Killing me over any of the near confirmed town only makes sense if someone was legit scared of me. A50 respects me, but doubt he's scared of me.

The only other realistic possibilities are:
A) scum don't like that I fight the narrative.
B) someone tried to vig me and scum's shot was blocked.

Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2021 10:13 am
by Not_Mafia
Let's just eliminate A50

Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2021 10:27 am
by VFP
In what world do I bus drive mastina and Toog, attack Toog and hope that they have something to confirm my bus drive, instead of just not bus driving or bus driving different targets?

So legit either Toog who has a roleblock ability and just went with my post saying who I bus drived. Blocked me, killed mastine.
Or Math is actually scum here? Knowing I wouldn't bus drive there.

UNVOTE: Pooky

Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2021 10:27 am
by MathBlade
In post 2067, Toogeloo wrote:Which is why I'm arguing in favor of possible Slug/VFP scum. From a night pass perspective with a strong version of bus driver, it make sense.

Killing me over any of the near confirmed town only makes sense if someone was legit scared of me. A50 respects me, but doubt he's scared of me.

The only other realistic possibilities are:
A) scum don't like that I fight the narrative.
B) someone tried to vig me and scum's shot was blocked.
I am just gonna go with not A because I am still alive and I am the definition of weird.

If scum shot you it’s because you give away powers.

Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2021 10:28 am
by MathBlade
In post 2069, VFP wrote:In what world do I bus drive mastina and Toog, attack Toog and hope that they have something to confirm my bus drive, instead of just not bus driving or bus driving different targets?

So legit either Toog who has a roleblock ability and just went with my post saying who I bus drived. Blocked me, killed mastine.
Or Math is actually scum here? Knowing I wouldn't bus drive there.

UNVOTE: Pooky
Dude...the no kill N2

I am the cause. No way I am scum here

Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2021 10:30 am
by VFP
In post 2071, MathBlade wrote:Dude...the no kill N2

I am the cause. No way I am scum here
Could have easily prevented it for credit?
This is what you are basically saying from me being confirmed transporting Toog and mastina while mastina dies, right? That I bus drive them just in hopes of Toog to say they were bus drived?

Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2021 10:37 am
by Not_Mafia
In post 2069, VFP wrote:In what world do I bus drive mastina and Toog, attack Toog and hope that they have something to confirm my bus drive, instead of just not bus driving or bus driving different targets?

So legit either Toog who has a roleblock ability and just went with my post saying who I bus drived. Blocked me, killed mastine.
Or Math is actually scum here? Knowing I wouldn't bus drive there.

UNVOTE: Pooky
A50 is scum

Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2021 10:41 am
by Toogeloo
Whatever...
I've said my peace.

VOTE: Almost50