Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2021 2:05 pm
You just moderated a game where I vibe solved not_mafia + deepwolf at one point
https://forum.mafiascum-staging.net/
In post 16, T3 wrote:Ouch tbhIn post 1612, Dwlee99 wrote:Individual reads:
Me
(for math)
Conftown people
Math/Kyo
Salsa/Marci
NM
Together reads: my gut is telling me NM + a deep wolf, but obviously this doesn't match with the individual reads in a quantifiable way. Might be as simple as NM + one of Marci/salsa. I don't really think that Marci and salsa are scum together though? Based on what I've seen?
In post 1010, Dwlee99 wrote:I don't know what it is but some games feel better to read on vibes and some on looking at other things. I mean, at the end of the day I think any reasoning on a slot's towniness comes down to whether the vibe feels like town, but just adding layers of abstraction that are meant to help you figure out that vibe.
This game with this playerlist has felt right to pure vibe rather than use abstractions, and I think I was right about that given my reads on ico/skitter.
And likewise, if Mastina is flipped and is revealed to be mafia.In post 2062, Dwlee99 wrote:If Limit is scum I'll consider sheeping you
Why just on the surface?In post 2061, T3 wrote:ANYWAYS
RCE, at least on a surface level sounds towny. Limit does not, and lillith's reaction to the tunnel felt forced and overblown.
Scum wouldn’t want to push an easily pushable slot too hard because they know it’s flipping town and want to look good for tommorow. Which fits what you did.In post 2065, RCEnigma wrote:I already don't think norwees reason for pushing me is very good and mostly just hangs on me defending a slot they thought was surefire scum. But I think the real reason it bugs me is that the impression is my scumplay would be to softball a fake read on Titus to tie me there when she was an easily pushable slot and then to death tunnel for two days straight.
In post 2066, Momrangal wrote:i forgot the password guys dont hate me
but also I have computer!
VOTE: RCE
like, w/e.
i'll limit posting in strings for obv reasons but.. yeah...
RCE
are you reading?
Bingle was the first vote we threw down, and we made it clear it was Bingle vs you. we chose Bingle because we thought it would be the killing shot.
ive made all my stances clear on all my reads thus far
we get it.In post 1864, Dwlee99 wrote:MetabadIn post 1857, T3 wrote:OkayIn post 1855, Dwlee99 wrote:Okay then let's vote emperor or do something. Game is stalled and I don't agree with your premise that mastina has to be town here
So theoretically even though this is exactly mastina's town meta if mastina is scum tuneling town Bingle for no apparent reason... I actually don't know.
Honestly I'm kinda hard TRing you rn but your defeatism and "oh woe is me" is making me wonder if I'm well wrong...In post 1888, The Limit Does Not Exist wrote:as much as I appreciate the defense on a personal level, I kind of feel like FC is white knighting us knowing that we're flipping town and the very likely plurality elim :/
although I don't really want to elim Bingle either
- lilith
Oh you're definitely wounded, and if you don't die tonight you've been doctored.In post 1903, Bingle wrote:Eh, check out betrayal.In post 1886, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Not sure if saying WIFOM to sound town as scum or if actually honestly thinking this.In post 1859, Bingle wrote:Objectively, I'm probably the best town elimination today.
I have no pots, I’m already presumably wounded, and my flip gives clarity to a bunch of interactions.
You did what now? o.oIn post 1920, T3 wrote:While Flea does actively mess with their meta, my reasons to townread Flea are consistent across all of their towngames. Flea hasn't commented on my meta towncase, but I assume this isn't something Flea noticed.
Really? I've even said I'll take responsibility for my actions, my reads and the consequences. and yes while I actively screw with my Meta half the time I have literal entire brain shifts and my entire method of working changes.In post 1925, Bingle wrote:It isn't. It's weak, but I AM slightly more likely to effort as scum than as town, particularly given that I haven't had a scumgame that made sense to effort in in quite a while. It is 100% reasonable for mastina to see my behavior and go "Oh shit, is Bingle scum here?" I am objectively not an awful elimination choice.In post 1919, T3 wrote:completely terrible
More though, the reactions to the case are terrible. No one who has leant any support to the case has in any way shown an effort in actually reading me. Some of these (Norwee for example) have been up front about it. Waffley and unsure, but willing to trust the word of a townread.
Others (Mom) have been very vocal about how I'm obvious scum for no real reason.
WRT Fleameta, you're townreading faer for omgus tunneling you, when I don't really see an omgus tunnel. The admission that Flea engages in meta manipulation only strengthens my "Don't give a fuck" about your metaclear. Mastina locktowned faer in ODM early and accurately and has had literally the exact opposite reaction here. Their (collective) entire approach to hydra-ing gives the impression of not wanting to be held accountable for things.
You say confusing, I say that means we're in a strange gamestate and the scum are likely deepwolfing.In post 1972, NorwegianboyEE wrote:This is getting really confusing.
Everyone is like, scumreading an different set of 3 people.
In post 1973, T3 wrote:You're the guy who says metabad.In post 1971, Dwlee99 wrote:I thought you knew me better t3
AAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAIn post 1974, Dwlee99 wrote:Touché...In post 1973, T3 wrote:You're the guy who says metabad.In post 1971, Dwlee99 wrote:I thought you knew me better t3
There is nothing that makes you very scummy, or at least not more than limit.In post 2065, RCEnigma wrote:Why just on the surface?In post 2061, T3 wrote:ANYWAYS
RCE, at least on a surface level sounds towny. Limit does not, and lillith's reaction to the tunnel felt forced and overblown.
Not that I want to be cased as scum but like, what am I doing if in scum under the surface?
I already don't think norwees reason for pushing me is very good and mostly just hangs on me defending a slot they thought was surefire scum. But I think the real reason it bugs me is that the impression is my scumplay would be to softball a fake read on Titus to tie me there when she was an easily pushable slot and then to death tunnel for two days straight.
In other news I don't know if the game just feels like walking through mud because it's slow or because I can only get certain slots to even entertain interacting with me.