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2042 is pretty good though, imo

Ugh 2041 seems genuine
VOTE: Pavowski
I think this is better

In post 2047, Meuh wrote:Skitter's someone I've been feeling conflicted on.
At the very start of the game I felt good about her, then later on I didn't really like the way her and Isis interacted and had generally been feeling less good about her.
Then I started feeling like she was just town again
and now she's taking stances that feel mindmeldy and that's very comforting. It's just nice to have someone else with a similar outlook on the game. Tonally though? I've been mostly meh on her since the very start

Thanks for the answer, this tracks pretty well with what I was seeing. Which is exciting, I think!!

Now that Meuh has answered, I'll expand further on why I started to feel less happy with an Isis vote.

although some things by Isis pinged me as possibly scummy during my interactions with her, as I've continued to read and started to get a better understanding of the broader picture of the game, I feel like my understanding of the state of things is more closely aligned with how Isis sees things. I feel generally good about Titus and GL and think they're looking in good directions. It felt like Meuh and skitter are on the opposite end of the boat, if you will, and are seeing things from a very different angle.

They could be just both wrong in the same way, or I could be completely wrong and they're both right. both of those are possible and I won't rule them out. I think it's more likely though that one is influencing the other, or intentionally trying to get the other on their side, and from the way things have played out, I think thats more likely to be skitter

In post 2051, Meuh wrote:Ugh 2041 seems genuine
VOTE: Pavowski
I think this is better

In post 2045, Aristeia wrote:if scum don't bus it will be very hard for 7 out of 9 town to agree on an elim

the game feels slow for some reason

This makes it tempting to vote gamma as the slot most likely to pass that test maybe? Or Pavowski doesn't have many defenders either. Anyone with a couple town defenders doesn't need many scum abstentions to survive. Was that coherent

Oh I was also thinking about meuh's post

Do you think Pavowski is scummier individually or more vca, flow of the tides.

In post 2054, Isis wrote:Oh I was also thinking about meuh's post

Do you think Pavowski is scummier individually or more vca, flow of the tides.

To me he's scummy in a circumstantial way if that makes any sense?
The general position he's in, the way he has interacted with others and others have treated him, the feeling of some people being aware of him being scummy, while some seem to prefer ignoring his existence, I guess. It all makes me uneasy.

On an individual basis I also feel iffy about him.
I don't recall ever reading a Pav post and thinking "yeah, this was probably written by a townie"; which I've felt with I'd say most of the players in this game, even other people I do or have scumread. Like I would have to dig a bit for it, but I feel like I've had moments with people like GL, Gamma or you in that way. Not really with Pav.

I think perhaps several people in this game feel that way about him

I am willing to vote for Pavowski

In post 2011, Coral wrote:I'm not sure that I would be comfortable voting Isis anymore.

What changed?

In post 2031, marcistar wrote:just elim me if u guys want to so badly
like im not gonna really fight it i dont have the motivation for that

This feels pretty fake..

In post 2011, Coral wrote:I'm not sure that I would be comfortable voting Isis anymore.

In post 2031, marcistar wrote:just elim me if u guys want to so badly
like im not gonna really fight it i dont have the motivation for that

I can't even remember a Pav post I've had him at null forever so ya would vote there

In post 2045, Aristeia wrote:if scum don't bus it will be very hard for 7 out of 9 town to agree on an elim

the game feels slow for some reason

If we get to that point, lord forbid, I have an idea to get us to agree and/or shake up discussion.

In post 2059, SirCakez wrote:

In post 2031, marcistar wrote:just elim me if u guys want to so badly
like im not gonna really fight it i dont have the motivation for that

This feels pretty fake..

elim me then......

do it do it

In post 1981, GuiltyLion wrote:

In post 1952, skitter30 wrote:Like your entire top row was on that wagon. I'm not sure i follow why marci is the one you think is scummy here, and not the others

I gave several things I didn't like from marci, I'll repeat them again

-As Isis pointed out in 1805, switched from defending Fruit to discrediting him as soon as Fruit started accusing her of being scummy posting filler
-Has not substantively expressed or advanced reads in order to push the game a certain way in recent memory
-1692 overreaction and yet doesn't feel like she actually wanted to clarify her read on Pav
-repeatedly says she SR Gamma, even at EOD1, yet kept her vote on Beat, feels like closest profile of scum on that wagon compared to deadline compromisers (Ari/Isis) or initial voters (Titus, Meuh)
-bonus point: not a reason against Marci in isolation but if Gamma is scum I could easily see them as paired, their interactions do not like two townies attempting to sort each other.

Ok thanks, i appreciate u spelling it all out

In post 1989, marcistar wrote:

In post 1113, marcistar wrote:honestly i want to afk

?

In post 2008, Coral wrote:

In post 1949, skitter30 wrote:Like to me this feels like a combo of:
- bandwagoning off of other people reads to push marci (did you have any suspicions on her before this???)
- trying to redivert suspicion off of her onto you

This is the second time that I've felt like skitter is using her influence to push down other people's reads. The first was when she made a comment about titus' scumreads being weird, and now she's doing it to GL. I'm not sure if it's scummy, exactly, but it's caught my eye multiple times now

Ok i dont really think that's what i'm doing, but note taken

In post 2023, Aristeia wrote:I don't understand how Pavowski continues to get away with doing nothing

I mean should we wagon him? I also dont feel like he's done much but my gut is that it'll end similar to beat

In post 2031, marcistar wrote:just elim me if u guys want to so badly
like im not gonna really fight it i dont have the motivation for that

In post 2034, marcistar wrote:like its true

idrc for being forced to give reads
even so, i dont even knowwhat my reads are rn, im so confused abt everything and i was purposely trying to fade out yeah.

Ok this is like precisely scummy for marci >.>

In post 2041, GuiltyLion wrote:also if skitt is town here I think she's so focused on trying to find the deepwolf that she's going to bat too much for the slots that have decent odds of being wolves on account of non-impactful/scummy play (Pav, marci, Gamma)

More like we just did that for beat and it didnt work, and i'm not convinced that 'looking scummy' = 'scum', esp. in this context

Like i would be kinda surprised if there were more than one scum in there

In post 2066, skitter30 wrote:

In post 2023, Aristeia wrote:I don't understand how Pavowski continues to get away with doing nothing

I mean should we wagon him? I also dont feel like he's done much but my gut is that it'll end similar to beat

i dunno thats why im asking >_<

In post 2045, Aristeia wrote:if scum don't bus it will be very hard for 7 out of 9 town to agree on an elim

the game feels slow for some reason

Yeah and it felt the same way yesterday
So ig the question is: do scum not care and are just watching us bicker while twiddling their thumbs
Or are they trying to prevent a scum wagon

I'm kinda leaning towards the former, a lot of others a leaning towards the latter

Beat wasn't the same, she played mafia and got misread. No one can remember any of Pavowskis posts

well i'm sheeping you

i know im town

i think you're town

so if you don't vote for a scum

we'd need like 7 out of 7 of the other town to vote out a scum

In post 2071, Isis wrote:Beat wasn't the same, she played mafia and got misread. No one can remember any of Pavowskis posts

i can remember his excuse for not voting the elim he wanted was because he was on a beach for an entire week

Marci's stuff from like irl today (i.e. refusing to give reads, losing energy when pushed) i think is actually pretty prototypical of her scumgame

@ ari honestly even if i dont necessarily want to flip him i'm not opposed to wagoniing him and seeing what happens

(Yes i'm aware i'm talking abt marci here too, i'm kinda ok with both now)

Pedit >.>