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Posted: Mon May 28, 2012 2:50 pm
by MattP
Just saying, if there is any more than one scum in the 12 most inactive players scum will be against the idea of it. Don't be fooled by that.
Posted: Mon May 28, 2012 3:11 pm
by funkybike1
I'm back.
MattP, scum are naturally against anything that hurts scum.
Posted: Mon May 28, 2012 3:12 pm
by MattP
↑ funkybike1 wrote:I'm back.
MattP, scum are naturally against anything that hurts scum.
So how do you feel about us lynching you?
Posted: Mon May 28, 2012 3:15 pm
by Ellibereth
proxy vote to mattp
use as necessary until I have tiempo
This went out of fashion about when I came here. That's almost 4 years ago.
Lets not
Posted: Mon May 28, 2012 3:16 pm
by Trevor
↑ Ellibereth wrote:proxy vote to mattp
use as necessary until I have tiempo
what is this
Posted: Mon May 28, 2012 3:16 pm
by Ellibereth
me being a lazy fuck
Posted: Mon May 28, 2012 3:18 pm
by Trevor
No what does it do jesus christ
Posted: Mon May 28, 2012 3:19 pm
by Nobody Special
It means MattP controls Elli's vote until Elli comes back. Some Mods don't allow it.
Posted: Mon May 28, 2012 3:27 pm
by Trevor
That is the dumbest mechanic I've ever heard of.
Posted: Mon May 28, 2012 3:50 pm
by MattP
Ellibereth votes: Robotnick
Cool.
Posted: Mon May 28, 2012 5:37 pm
by SpyreX
↑ redFF wrote:Then vote him Spy and if he flips town I'm more than happy to lynch hoopla or the lurkers.
Nope. I laid out my cards and if this goes through even if its scum I'm peace out hammertime. 100%
Its kind of invigorating in a way - and thats why I'm commenting on a lot of the mechanics and theory now JIC.
↑ TeChNoWC wrote: ↑ SpyreX wrote:And if we don't purge them out then we lose, period.
The longer the game goes its going to get worse. And if, from the limited exposure, you can straight faced say that bottom group is town well then you need to get someone new at the brain helm.
If there's a glut of lurking scum after 2065 I would send techno to a dark fiery grave.
Not getting your reasoning there, but anyway.
I already tried a quicklynch push with killing off the T-Bone wagon to try and beat scum to the punch. But it didn't seem to be profitable (at least so far) with Luffy's mislynch. I think pushing quicklynches only helps scum get to night phase quicker and get easy mislynches, and gives us less content (even though there is already fuckloads, I'm talking about VALUABLE content) for later game.
I'm not sure your reasoning on why drawing out the game makes town's chances worse; the only reason I can see was my reasoning about mafia beating us to the lynches, but at this point I can't tell which wagons are scumdriven, which are not, and which might be scumdriven bussers. It's all a sea of dodgy logic from most players at this point; deals, accusations with little reasoning, hastiness to lynch whoever, 'this guy is town fuck you', 'he is so scum hurry up and lynch already' comments from nearly everyone; not much scumhunting going on at all. That sort of activity reads to me as scum, and if I was to go by those reads, I am getting scum reads on 95% of the players.
Basically put, I feel helpless at this stage - no one seems worth defending, and no one stands out enough to seem worth lynching. I still need to do a shitload of reading.
If you are getting scum reads on 95% of the players and you are town you are being lazy. Period.
However, the jury is still out on that and I get twitchy every post.
Posted: Mon May 28, 2012 5:41 pm
by Trevor
I really hope that the mod doesn't allow this Proxy-vote nonsense to happen.
Posted: Mon May 28, 2012 5:57 pm
by Fritzler
Vote: Robotnik
Proxy vote to Hoopla until I return from V/LA
Posted: Mon May 28, 2012 6:36 pm
by Zajnet
↑ Trevor wrote:Anyone who tries to vote kondi at this point is obvious scum.
Even though I'm already voting kondi, I'm going to
UNVOTE: ,VOTE: kondi
Posted: Mon May 28, 2012 6:49 pm
by TeChNoWC
↑ SpyreX wrote: ↑ redFF wrote:Then vote him Spy and if he flips town I'm more than happy to lynch hoopla or the lurkers.
Nope. I laid out my cards and if this goes through even if its scum I'm peace out hammertime. 100%
Its kind of invigorating in a way - and thats why I'm commenting on a lot of the mechanics and theory now JIC.
↑ TeChNoWC wrote: ↑ SpyreX wrote:And if we don't purge them out then we lose, period.
The longer the game goes its going to get worse. And if, from the limited exposure, you can straight faced say that bottom group is town well then you need to get someone new at the brain helm.
If there's a glut of lurking scum after 2065 I would send techno to a dark fiery grave.
Not getting your reasoning there, but anyway.
I already tried a quicklynch push with killing off the T-Bone wagon to try and beat scum to the punch. But it didn't seem to be profitable (at least so far) with Luffy's mislynch. I think pushing quicklynches only helps scum get to night phase quicker and get easy mislynches, and gives us less content (even though there is already fuckloads, I'm talking about VALUABLE content) for later game.
I'm not sure your reasoning on why drawing out the game makes town's chances worse; the only reason I can see was my reasoning about mafia beating us to the lynches, but at this point I can't tell which wagons are scumdriven, which are not, and which might be scumdriven bussers. It's all a sea of dodgy logic from most players at this point; deals, accusations with little reasoning, hastiness to lynch whoever, 'this guy is town fuck you', 'he is so scum hurry up and lynch already' comments from nearly everyone; not much scumhunting going on at all. That sort of activity reads to me as scum, and if I was to go by those reads, I am getting scum reads on 95% of the players.
Basically put, I feel helpless at this stage - no one seems worth defending, and no one stands out enough to seem worth lynching. I still need to do a shitload of reading.
If you are getting scum reads on 95% of the players and you are town you are being lazy. Period.
However, the jury is still out on that and I get twitchy every post.
But nearly everyone is doing it, so I have the same reads on everyone.
I'm not lazy. I'm rereading the thread to see if anything other than these reads stands out to me, but you don't seem to want to do that, just lynch first and ask questions later. Whose the one being lazy?
Posted: Mon May 28, 2012 7:21 pm
by petapan
my enthusiasm for this game has dulled because the thrill of rapidfire shitposting has vanished and the fact that I'm getting a hell of a lot of VT tells and get the feeling we're searching for a needle in a haystack here. I haven't been reading, admittedly, and both kondi and chevre looked like really bad lynches to me (and shameful that kondi got harassed out of the game)
Hell I'll sign on for the plan of killing non contributers even if it means killing me at some point
VOTE: robotnick
Posted: Mon May 28, 2012 7:27 pm
by LowMan
VOTE: Robotnick
I'll go along with the lurker PL idea cause I think one or two of those above me in the list could be scum.
Posted: Mon May 28, 2012 7:29 pm
by petapan
lol just lol
Posted: Mon May 28, 2012 7:30 pm
by LowMan
Eh, I'm VT so I don't care.
Anything that gives a slight chance of actually nailing scum I'll support.
Posted: Mon May 28, 2012 7:33 pm
by UberNinja
proxy vote to SpyreX as long as he uses it to vote trevor or redFF
Posted: Mon May 28, 2012 7:48 pm
by mykonian
votecount
robotnick2 (8): mattP, theamateur, Hoopla, thetrollie, nobody special, Fritzler, petapan, Lowman
kondi2424 (5): Zdenek, RedFF, syndromeofadown, Kondi2424, Zajnet
chevre (3): uberninja, callforjudgement, BBmolla
nobody special (2): Trevor, Staeg
amrun (1): spyrex
PeregrineV (1): zoraster
lowman (1): amrun
zoraster (1): PeregrineV
As edited in Elli's post, Proxy votes aren't going to happen.
Posted: Mon May 28, 2012 9:49 pm
by manho
↑ Staeg wrote:Your theory argument implies that townies don't care if they're lynched and that scum always play by the textbook.
I'll dig up those meta links when I'm at a computer.
Pedit: play. style.
i assume that town care less about being lynched than scum.
vote: robotnick2
Posted: Mon May 28, 2012 10:14 pm
by SleepyKrew
shit
Posted: Mon May 28, 2012 10:58 pm
by Chronopie
VOTE: Robotnick and that's L-2.
Posted: Tue May 29, 2012 1:15 am
by Staeg
No, that's L-1
Spyrex, do it, but know that I would've been with you all this time
Unvote
Vote: hoopla