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Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2014 4:48 pm
by ika
tbh i was going to gambit it and vote who and see what would happen

Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2014 11:34 pm
by BlueBloodedToffee
Firstly, I think it's a little harsh for GC to be taking the flak for this.

It's not like you only had 1 day to catch scum, this was D5.
ika wrote:i wish you fuckign waited for me......

i was waiting for DR to make his vote first....

I also thought you had made it pretty clear you were OK with lynching Fish.

ika wrote:at least i was right on bbt and that i onw know a special tell in his meta

Nah, you don't.

You only thought I was scum because I was trying to get you lynched. I quoted it for you and everything, you actually had no reasons for me being scum.

Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2014 6:01 am
by ika
yes i do bbt i was going to vote dr and you do have a major diffrence in your townvs scm play as well

Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2014 6:04 am
by Green Crayons
I was thinking of voting Doctor today, but that would have still put us at BBT v. FF come tomorrow. If I was last alive with those two (presumably BBT would have killed you because of y'all's history in this game, plus my indications that I found him to be more town than FF), I'd probably have voted FF anyways and we'd still have lost.

Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2014 6:05 am
by Green Crayons
ika wrote:yes i do bbt i was going to vote dr and
you do have a major diffrence in your townvs scm play as well

Credited:
Green Crayons wrote:Something about BBT's play didn't sit right with me from my read through. It's like he's trying too hard to be open about his reads. That's the best way I can put it.

For example, his shift on the beck/ika slot doesn't look genuine. BBT had a strong town read on beck the entire game. ika makes a few flippant posts D2, and BBT votes ika right out of the gate in D3. And from then on he's been just dumping all over ika to further support his ika vote.

Green Crayons wrote:UNVOTE: Nat

VOTE: BBT

I don't like his posting this game. I stand by what I said in . He's trying too hard to look rational and spell out his positions, while using some pretty shaky logic to push his votes (e.g., looking at the wagon on a D1 town lynch without any flips, his basis for voting Ika in and ).

Also, I don't like his buddying with my slot when it was occupied by Desp. He found Desp to be incredibly town, and the votes on Desp to be incredibly scum, without justification.

If only I listened to myself. *fist shake*

Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2014 6:07 am
by ika
thts often why i give jack about a perdons logic

Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2014 8:50 am
by geraintm
Well, I claim no credit for being any help to town this game. I just can't play as mason.
I just got into this mindset that as town, and provable town, that I was able to coast through.
I also didn't really know what to do as mason, just seemed such a meh thing to be.


geraintm wrote:Bbt


Overall, I hope it is just a posting style thing that rubs me up the wrong way. He's done nothing wrong, not scummy, but this is exactly the kind of player who I don't spot as scum and get beat by


That seems....disappointing.
I think I actually only placed one vote on scum the whole game.
People in future games need to do the exact opposite of me. I am the Constanza of Mafia hunting.

Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2014 9:23 am
by Majiffy
Doo doo doo.

Been busy getting ready for Chicago.

Gonna do modstuffs now.

Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2014 9:24 am
by Majiffy
THIS IS A VOTECOUNT LOL


:!:
Formerfish (1): BlueBloodedToffee, Green Crayons, Doctor Who
:!:
BlueBloodedToffee (1): Formerfish

Not Voting: ika
With 5 alive, it takes 3 to lynch.

Day 5 ends on Saturday, November 27 at 2:00 PM Eastern

Accuracy never guaranteed. But
probably
accurate.

Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2014 9:24 am
by Majiffy
Formerfish
has been lynched. He was a
Dealer,
VT.


The scumteam of Natirasha, BlueBloodedToffee and Doctor Who wins!

Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2014 9:29 am
by Majiffy
Dead QT
Mason QT
Scum QT

Scum (Daytalk)

Doctor Who - Pit Manager - Ninja-Enabler
BlueBloodedToffee - Floor Manager - Strongman
Natirasha - Dealer - Goon

Town

Egg - Gaming Operations Manager - JOAT (BP, Roleblock, Doctor, Rolecop)
Titus - Floor Manager - Even Night Tracker/Odd Night Watcher
geraintm - Dual-Rate Floor - Mason (Daytalk)
Aronis - Dual-Rate Floor - Mason (Daytalk)
6 VTs

Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2014 9:30 am
by Majiffy
Note: I ran a prototype version of this setup in an off-site game, wherein Spruce played. Hence his prompt re-replacement due to already knowing a good portion of the setup.

Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2014 9:30 am
by Majiffy
Thanks for playing. Peace out.

Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2014 9:31 am
by Majiffy
Oh yeah and there isn't a N2 action list in the spoilers in the QT because I never received an action from Titus, and the scum kill is obviously the dead person.

Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2014 9:37 am
by Beck
Way scum sided, near impossible for town to win IMO.

Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2014 10:06 am
by Majiffy
Eh the flub regarding passive/active BP kind of fucked town with the N1 kill.

It's actually more balanced than it looks. You just need to rely on scumhunting and not PRs. As most of my setups go.

Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2014 11:42 am
by shos
the tracker/watcher role was completely useless though, and this helped misguide town.

Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2014 11:43 am
by shos
either way, gg guys, BBT I was townreading almost all the way.

Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2014 3:09 pm
by Doctor Who
Thanks for running Majiffy!

Good game everyone.

Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2014 11:40 pm
by BlueBloodedToffee
Thanks for modding Majiffy, really enjoyed the game.

Town we unlucky with the PR's pretty much all outing themselves.

A lot more of my thoughts on the game are at the end of the scum QT.

Good game guys.

Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2014 2:14 am
by Green Crayons
Yeah I thought it was a good setup. The tracker/watcher being completely nullified by the ninja was probably the most biased part of the setup, because it really laid the groundwork for an easy mislynch. Everything else looks golden.

Was almost a town win, too. Just couldn't figure out BBT v. FF correctly.

Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2014 2:15 am
by Green Crayons
Green Crayons wrote:The tracker/watcher being completely nullified by the ninja was probably the most biased part of the setup, because it really laid the groundwork for an easy mislynch.

Though thinking back on it, I don't think any of the scum pushed this line of reasoning? So really it just allowed us wildly imaginative VTs to get the better of ourselves.

Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2014 2:39 am
by Doctor Who
Had the Watcher / Tracker not spoken up on Day 1, then it could have been played as Vanilla. I thought I read somewhere that if you are a watcher / tracker these days you can safely assume that there are ninjas. Without the watcher / tracker, there was still a JOAT and masons.

Once everyone claimed, it basically set up all of the night kills except shos.

Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2014 2:54 am
by shos
How'd you like my crumb? ^.^;;;;

Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2014 3:47 am
by Doctor Who
I thought there was a chance that it could carry you until the end, which is also why I saw how it could be interpreted multiple ways.