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Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2018 9:25 am
by Almost50
In post 2040, Nako wrote:@A50, what do you think about it though?
I stopped "thinking". I am just watching how things unfold for the time being. I want to lynch Mew but it's being resisted by many and I have no idea why anymore.

I don't know about Koki and I had declared him a hard-to-read slot for me since the start of the game.

I made a push on DDL at the start of the game when he was not posting. He came in and posted some, but overall I don't see his participation to be active or fruitful.

If there are any other slots you want me to check on I'd be happy to, but with no scum flips yet I don't think anything can really change the way I am seeing the game now, which is Mew is the best lynch, followed by DDL

Oh, there's also that PP wagon stalling on D1 thing. I have no idea where to go with this. Gut says PP is Town, but that aside I can't explain why scum didn't go all the way with that wagon.

Now if PP is scum I'd be most suspicious of Seph because he's the one who prevented the claim from PP and subsequently lead to the dissolution of the wagon.

But this -by necessity- would mean Mew is not scum (I don't see him as scum with Seph), and it's confusing me. Did Seph (and his team) block me last night, leading to this mess? Because it's either that or Mew is indeed Ascetic who didn't claim, and thus must be scum.

Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2018 9:34 am
by Almost50
In post 2060, Nako wrote:@Almost50 Can I ask you 2 more questions?
Do you think Kokichi buses as scum and what is your read on PP?
I've just explained the PP read. Analytically he has has equity of flipping scum, but I gut read him Town (because that's how he played in a recent game with me where he was Town).

Koki I fail to read him or understand his play 110% of the time and then some more. He's a big question mark for me ALWAYS. I don't know if he buses or not. I dunno if town!him does that Masons shit or not. To me there are 2 ways to catch scum!Koki: 1- Night Investigation, or 2- lynching his buddy(ies) and have him caught by association or VCA.

Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2018 9:43 am
by OkaPoka
sorry ive been inactive lately, just feeling demotivated to reread

that being said i feel like the response to my pp analysis was very weak in comparison to tchill and kokichi. tchill was town, im leaning town on kokichi, so maybe pp is actually scum/i might be onto something with high scum thing that scum just want to ignore? maybe?

Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2018 1:02 pm
by DrDolittle
VOTE: koki

Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2018 1:05 pm
by DrDolittle
In post 2031, ofrhz wrote:A50 claims to have investigated Mew, not Gamma. Why did you drop your SR, even if only tentatively, just because the likely TPR said so? If you’re town, then shouldn’t your reads be equally as valid as A50’s?

In your last towngame (Mini 2023) with (scum)Gamma, you also correctly scumread him and had him as a SR for most of the game, which makes this progression even more strange.
my scum reads are typically not too great and i prefer to hunt for town reads and do poe - so I defer my read to someone who argues that gamma towntold (p.s. you can see the same reaction on me re: koki).

Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2018 1:09 pm
by Kokichi Oma
so why am i your scumread?

Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2018 1:09 pm
by DrDolittle
In post 2075, Almost50 wrote:He came in and posted some, but overall I don't see his participation to be active or fruitful.
thats like your opinion man. this game is hard and hard to read and i'm trying my best ok

Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2018 1:10 pm
by DrDolittle
In post 2080, Kokichi Oma wrote:so why am i your scumread?
because you fake-claimed mason?

Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2018 1:11 pm
by Kokichi Oma
and how does that make me scum? what was your read before then on me?

Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2018 1:12 pm
by Kokichi Oma
if you scumread me for fake claiming mason, why don't you suspect joey for going along with it? If im scum, it's higher chance that I would choose to fake claim something else that didnt rely on someone else agreeing to claim it with me. isn't it more likely the person who accepted the claim is more likely to be scum to you if you use that logic?

Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2018 1:14 pm
by DrDolittle
tell me why would town fake-claim mason?

my read on you before was lean-scum, but willing to defer to joey for read.

Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2018 1:15 pm
by DrDolittle
because my read is that joey read you as town, and you pocketed him, and knew that he would go along.

Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2018 1:16 pm
by DrDolittle
also, you dont seem super invested in the game, so even in the event that joey didn't acknowledge or reject, you could always play it off as nah jk

Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2018 1:53 pm
by Kokichi Oma
>not invested in the game

>has more 40 more posts than you

Yeah, keep spewing a fake narrative to try and get people to believe it.

VOTE: DDL

Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2018 2:11 pm
by Nako
Kokichi found every post I posted ridiculous yet he is voting with me...

Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2018 2:11 pm
by Nako
Not gonna complain though, good vote.

Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2018 2:22 pm
by DrDolittle
first i didn't say im extremely invested in teh game. second you should look at the content in addition to the count...

Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2018 2:25 pm
by DrDolittle
and plus the statement is definitely not false. but glad you are omgus ing me to back it up

Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2018 3:13 pm
by skitter30
VOTE COUNT 2.11
DrDolittle (3)
- DVa, Nako, Kokichi Oma

Mewtaph (2)
- Almost50, PenguinPower

OkaPoka (1)
- Sephiroth

PenguinPower (1)
- Gamma Emerald

Kokichi Oma (1)
- DrDolittle

Not Voting (3)
- ofrhz, Mewtaph, OkaPoka

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch


Deadline:
(expired on 2018-11-24 22:00:00)

Mod Notes: :)

Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2018 3:16 pm
by Almost50
Eh..

VOTE: DrDolittle

Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2018 3:18 pm
by OkaPoka
VOTE: ddl

L1 vote

yes im blatantly sheeping townreads because i cant think for myself

Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2018 3:20 pm
by Nako
In post 2095, OkaPoka wrote:VOTE: ddl

L1 vote

yes im blatantly sheeping townreads because i cant think for myself
Who are your townreads?

Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2018 3:22 pm
by OkaPoka
relevant ones in order of towniness:

nako
kokichi
dva

a50 im not sure anymore

Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2018 3:25 pm
by Gamma Emerald
In post 2075, Almost50 wrote:I made a push on DDL at the start of the game when he was not posting. He came in and posted some, but overall I don't see his participation to be active or fruitful.
This is not what I think at all? Talk about this.

Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2018 3:27 pm
by Gamma Emerald
In post 2091, DrDolittle wrote:first i didn't say im extremely invested in teh game. second you should look at the content in addition to the count...
Okay this looks kinda bad, I believe I saw Dunnstral as scum execute the “me doing the thing I’m scumreading you for doesn’t invalidate my read” thing, and iirc it was to town Kokichi.