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[teacher]

Daddy

[shellyc]

"softed quite heavily" suggests that they are a PR which suggests that you are acutely aware of TPR!plusjoy
and "why make this painful" suggests that you want them to out with their role which doesn't help if you already are aware of their role.

[teacher]

I did get a fun role this time around that I've been crumbing

=softed quite heavily. Literally the same thing.

[teacher]

NOBODY ELSE OUT OR CLAIM
PLUSJOY I THOUGHT YOU KNEW BETTER NOT TO CLAIM AHHHHHHHH

WHY DID YOU SOFTCLAIM PR
WHY DID YOU JUST OUT YOURSELF
WHY DID YOU CLAIM PR NOT AT E-1

=why would you do it this painfully?

I really don’t see a difference here, other than word choice and all caps.

[teacher]

Like I don’t see how my comment was at all exposing anything that wasn’t in the posts immediately before mine and just likewise expressing my amazement at the fact that we have had 3 entirely voluntary, non-intent claims given today.

[Saudade]

this day needs to end before i lose my sanity

[PlusJOYED]

you seem mighty defensive teacher

[Andresvmb]

I’ll be back tonight. I need to think about a lot of things. I am not all that inclined to want to vote claimed Doctor. Seems like a silly play for a D1.

[Andresvmb]

WHERE IS BOB.

[bob3141]

how has every one managed to make 20 pages in less than 24 hours

[bob3141]

I will not be voting kerset. Lynching there is very bad and 100% scummy. If true its a role that will be resolved. No way scum keeps a doc alive for long. As every night he has a chance to block a kill.

[bob3141]

And most of the posts are just spam. You could fit all the posts into 1/10 what has been done and not lose a single word. And then so much fluff and flab

[osuka]

okay yeah shelly just had a fake lamist breakdown that I’m really not a fan of

[osuka]

It’s like “oh my god don’t out PRs, let’s not bring attention to it” while bringing as much attention to it as possible

[teacher]

Mena where are you?

[Tayl0r Swift]

shelly is still town tho even if shellys posts atm are pretty weird.

[Saudade]

I dont understand how does the doc claim resolve itself?
why would scum ever kill a slot like kerset?

[Saudade]

that was @ bob

[Andresvmb]

I unvoted because he was at L-1 and if the day ended right there I would've felt that we didnt get enough from the day

Yeah and how did that work out?

[Andresvmb]

UNVOTE:

I’m heading to bed. I’ll reassess at some point tomorrow.

I’m probably inclined to lynch in (Kerset-Plus).

Whether or not saud thought it was hammer, Kerset shouldn’t have. I know — especially as PR — exactly where Vcs on me stand. I don’t see him not knowing that ONE of of saud/IV was already on wagon, much less both. Kerset claimed at L-2, but did so wearing an attitude of being hammered, rather than responding to intent??

It people are too scared of going to claimed PR, I’m going to need some selling on Osuka>Plus.

I feel sympathetic to the argument that as PR you should know where your count is and who is voting you at all times, but that is very much how you may personally approach the game (or even how you ideally should approach the role) versus what Kerset may or may not have been doing (and it’s hard for me to be fully convinced that not approaching it in the ideal way is Scummy). I agree that I am not all of a sudden spectacularly comfortable with the Kerset slot since the arguments they made against me were, from my POV, bad (and I haven’t seen any sort of re-evaluation from Kerset). I’ll also point out that the way that Menalque approached asking about any limitations to the role heavily implied that it would be less believable if the role did not have any limitations. I’m not trying to extract any further information at this point btw. Enough time has passed that it is now a useless exercise. But that also influences it.

The other question I have is - why crumb doctor at all? Who cares to crumb that role? That I’m not sure I fully understand and maybe somebody can help me with that.

[Andresvmb]

Andres why did you unvote Kerset so easily?
Your follow up posts seem to be taking Kerset as hardtown, did you not have your own read on the slot and you were just sheeping?

My first instinct when seeing a PR claim for a role that is not a good long-term decoy for Scum is to Unvote. At the same time, I recognize that a Claim from a heavily suspected person needs to be strong enough to elicit that sort of reaction. I’m not completely sold that Kerset is Town and I’m not hard Towning them. But I do very much think it’s a bit of a misplay to hard push for a claimed, un-CC’ed Doctor on D1.

[Andresvmb]

People hiding in my shadow and then turning on me when things go a bit south will get slapped by the AUTHORITY

Kerset [5]: Andresvmb, Ydrasse, innocentvillager, Saudade, Menalque

osuka [4]: Menalque, innocentvillager, Ydrasse, Andresvmb

Presumably, y’all hopped off Kerset because of the claim, ya? So you have to presume there was scum on Town!kersets wagon, right?

Then what the hell are you doing being willing to wagon another slot with the exact same people? I mean I think most of you TR saud, so his difference does not explain this behavior.

I will admit, this is a good point. Expecting a different result with the same people on the wagon is not likely. However, I’m not really TR Kerset outside of the Claim, and I do very much TR the people I was voting for. So I don’t know that I would immediately turn around and condemn the people on the wagon when I still feel like Kerset has a few things to prove.

[Andresvmb]

^That Saudade post I did not mean to include, but I did find it funny hahaha

[Andresvmb]

^^voting with*

[Kerset]

Teacher is just rolefishing but lets don't worry about it. Who cares about his behavior, lets discuss why would doctor claim be killed. Doctor is a role, which is able to prevent other players death. It could be innocent child, cop which is right about to give another result or vanilla confirmed by other role. I wonder why would mafia need to kill such role.