Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2020 3:51 am
Daddy
=softed quite heavily. Literally the same thing.In post 2055, PlusJOYED wrote:I did get a fun role this time around that I've been crumbing
=why would you do it this painfully?In post 2061, shellyc wrote:NOBODY ELSE OUT OR CLAIM
PLUSJOY I THOUGHT YOU KNEW BETTER NOT TO CLAIM AHHHHHHHH
WHY DID YOU SOFTCLAIM PR
WHY DID YOU JUST OUT YOURSELF
WHY DID YOU CLAIM PR NOT AT E-1
Yeah and how did that work out?In post 1838, Saudade wrote:I unvoted because he was at L-1 and if the day ended right there I would've felt that we didnt get enough from the day
I feel sympathetic to the argument that as PR you should know where your count is and who is voting you at all times, but that is very much how you may personally approach the game (or even how you ideally should approach the role) versus what Kerset may or may not have been doing (and it’s hard for me to be fully convinced that not approaching it in the ideal way is Scummy). I agree that I am not all of a sudden spectacularly comfortable with the Kerset slot since the arguments they made against me were, from my POV, bad (and I haven’t seen any sort of re-evaluation from Kerset). I’ll also point out that the way that Menalque approached asking about any limitations to the role heavily implied that it would be less believable if the role did not have any limitations. I’m not trying to extract any further information at this point btw. Enough time has passed that it is now a useless exercise. But that also influences it.In post 1855, teacher wrote:UNVOTE:
I’m heading to bed. I’ll reassess at some point tomorrow.
I’m probably inclined to lynch in (Kerset-Plus).
Whether or not saud thought it was hammer, Kerset shouldn’t have. I know — especially as PR — exactly where Vcs on me stand. I don’t see him not knowing that ONE of of saud/IV was already on wagon, much less both. Kerset claimed at L-2, but did so wearing an attitude of being hammered, rather than responding to intent??
It people are too scared of going to claimed PR, I’m going to need some selling on Osuka>Plus.
My first instinct when seeing a PR claim for a role that is not a good long-term decoy for Scum is to Unvote. At the same time, I recognize that a Claim from a heavily suspected person needs to be strong enough to elicit that sort of reaction. I’m not completely sold that Kerset is Town and I’m not hard Towning them. But I do very much think it’s a bit of a misplay to hard push for a claimed, un-CC’ed Doctor on D1.In post 1858, Saudade wrote:Andres why did you unvote Kerset so easily?
Your follow up posts seem to be taking Kerset as hardtown, did you not have your own read on the slot and you were just sheeping?
In post 1859, Saudade wrote:People hiding in my shadow and then turning on me when things go a bit south will get slapped by the AUTHORITY
I will admit, this is a good point. Expecting a different result with the same people on the wagon is not likely. However, I’m not really TR Kerset outside of the Claim, and I do very much TR the people I was voting for. So I don’t know that I would immediately turn around and condemn the people on the wagon when I still feel like Kerset has a few things to prove.In post 1860, teacher wrote:In post 1400, Datisi wrote:Kerset [5]: Andresvmb, Ydrasse, innocentvillager, Saudade, MenalquePresumably, y’all hopped off Kerset because of the claim, ya? So you have to presume there was scum on Town!kersets wagon, right?In post 1775, Datisi wrote:osuka [4]: Menalque, innocentvillager, Ydrasse, Andresvmb
Then what the hell are you doing being willing to wagon another slot with the exact same people? I mean I think most of you TR saud, so his difference does not explain this behavior.