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Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2021 12:22 am
by T3
Town you will get exasperated and OMGUS tunnel someone. Scum you will write furious quotewalls.

Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2021 12:24 am
by T3
Citations:
Me in Calculasia
Me in ODM
Mena in another game

Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2021 12:27 am
by Dwlee99
My RCE scumread is probably influenced by recency bias

Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2021 12:31 am
by Dwlee99
Mmm I feel like whatever we do I will not feel good about it. I can't nail someone as definitely scum but I just am not feeling like consensus reads are correct right now

Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2021 12:32 am
by Dwlee99
T3 did you ever try to meta for my alignment rather than my positioning with scum buddies?

Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2021 12:34 am
by Dwlee99
Btw we are in 7-3 rn so mislimming actually might mean we lose on parity. Cause scum probably have three kills ready and it seems like people are going to make sure Bingle dies

Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2021 12:36 am
by NorwegianboyEE
Three kills ready but noone target Mastina/GCB?

Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2021 12:36 am
by Dwlee99
UNVOTE:

Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2021 12:38 am
by Dwlee99
In post 2081, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Three kills ready but noone target Mastina/GCB?
GCB is watcher bait and mastina I am not convinced is town. Was there harmography on Mastina? Don't feel like checking

Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2021 12:39 am
by NorwegianboyEE
Yes. That’s literally what i did.

Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2021 12:40 am
by Dwlee99
I want a list of everything claimed but am on mobile so maybe later when I go back on desktop I can reason through everything

Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2021 12:42 am
by Dwlee99
Ah fun. So I feel like it's reasonable to think scum all used pain potions if they had one. Do you agree?

Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2021 12:42 am
by Dwlee99
^hence three kills probably lined up

Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2021 12:43 am
by NorwegianboyEE
In post 1917, Bingle wrote:
In post 1682, The Limit Does Not Exist wrote:Absolutely done with this game. Since everyone has checked in, I’m assuming all pain potions have been claimed already if used. We harmographied Bingle and can confirm Fairy Circle pain potioned him. So at least one of these slots is town, as I certainly don’t think scum is going around pain potioning each other. which makes mastina’s solve literally impossible.

- lilith

Lilith's claim. Prior to lilith's claim, with some reasonable assumptions:

Town would not lie.
Bingle did not pain Bingle, and in fact had claimed no potions the day before.







GCB - didn't bother checking because one degree of freedom couldn't introduce risk.

So unless GCB had both pained and healed me, unless I was healed limit could be reasonably sure I was pained exactly once. The only way I was healed was if it was done by GCB, which wouldn't catch limit in a lie, or if scum did it. IF limit is scum here, they knew that their claim of only you having pained me was a safe one to make before they made it. This is not evidence that limit is scum, btw, just evidence that townreading limit on the basis of the Harmo result is blegh.

As to why limit would out the info? It gives them a reasonable-ish action to have taken N1. It's only potentially clearing if one of us flips scum, and as I know I won't and I appear likely to flip before you (And did at the time of lilith's claim) it's completely unlikely to be clearing in any case.

Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2021 12:45 am
by T3
In post 2079, Dwlee99 wrote:T3 did you ever try to meta for my alignment rather than my positioning with scum buddies?
I did earlier and found nothing.

Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2021 12:45 am
by NorwegianboyEE
In post 2086, Dwlee99 wrote:Ah fun. So I feel like it's reasonable to think scum all used pain potions if they had one. Do you agree?
Not necesarilly.
I think the distribution and amount of pain potions/other potions + the scum teams situation heavily impact their strategy.
I don’t know what it is, but i enough to assume that it’s probably not so simple as "they all pain".

Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2021 12:46 am
by NorwegianboyEE
They might even go no pain for night 1 just to make town use their harmo. And then use it later.

Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2021 12:53 am
by Dwlee99
That was all bingle centric.

I feel like no paining N1 would be a bad strategy

Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2021 12:57 am
by NorwegianboyEE
I think Dwlee forgetting that i harmo’d Mastina might be slight town indicative ish…?
Because scum!him would pay more attention to things like that if his team used poison on targets last night?

Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2021 12:58 am
by T3
Scum will probably have 3 4 or 5 pain potions = not 3 kills.

Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2021 1:02 am
by Dwlee99
In post 2094, T3 wrote:Scum will probably have 3 4 or 5 pain potions = not 3 kills.
Well if there was friendly fire three kills could still happen but this is true. Maybe not paining N1 is a working strategy if scumteam can pain N2 and N3 before the potion reset

Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2021 1:05 am
by Dwlee99
Not paining also would assume they don't get eliminated the next day and lose their potions

Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2021 1:15 am
by RCEnigma
In post 2068, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Mastina is different because they acted genuinely mad that we flipped town!Titus. Which feels a lot more genuine than your lame reaction.
I wasn't here for deadline, what reaction?

Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2021 1:16 am
by T3
scum potion spec is useless

Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2021 1:18 am
by RCEnigma
In post 2076, T3 wrote:Citations:
Me in Calculasia
Me in ODM
Mena in another game
I don't know any of these games but tunneling menalque sounds familiar.